# "Serenity" (Firefly movie) delayed to September

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serenity-firefly-movie-delayed-to-september/276334>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 23, 2004, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serenity-firefly-movie-delayed-to-september/276334 "2004-11-23T19:20:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2005, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serenity-firefly-movie-delayed-to-september/276334/81 "2005-04-27T20:45:58Z")

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> [@](#):
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> The swipage happened during the last episode to get filmed (possibly ‘the message’??), after principal filming was done, but before a few pick-up shots were done in the cockpit, so for continuity they had to hide the fact that it was missing.
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> Do I get some firefly geek points for that, to redeem myself with?

As it happens, I watched ‘The Message’ with the commentary track on last night, and you are correct on all points. It was Alan Tudyk (Wash) who did the swipage.

50 geek points. Don’t spend 'em all in one place.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2005, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serenity-firefly-movie-delayed-to-september/276334/82 "2005-04-27T22:48:38Z")

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I’ve watched the trailer probably twenty times now.

Part of me can’t believe that this is actually happening. From small-screen outcast to big-screen hero. Who’da thunk it?

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**Author:** ![Hellestal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3ab097/32.png) [@Hellestal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hellestal)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serenity-firefly-movie-delayed-to-september/276334/83 "2005-04-28T00:26:02Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> I’ve watched the trailer probably twenty times now.
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> Part of me can’t believe that this is actually happening. From small-screen outcast to big-screen hero. Who’da thunk it?

After the cancellation, I hoped, I wished, and I prayed, but I’da never thunk it.

One of the screenings next week is in Seattle, right? You manage to get yourself a bunk for that showing? If so, I’d be mighty appreciative if you’d write one of your sorely missed reviews.

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**Author:** ![Misnomer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misnomer/32/14897_2.png) [@Misnomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misnomer)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serenity-firefly-movie-delayed-to-september/276334/84 "2005-04-28T01:32:38Z")

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Long Live Firefly!! 🙂

> [@vd](#):
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> So what you’re saying is that I need the Serenity to accept the delayed openings I cannot change, the Courage to watch the DVD’s I can, and the Wisdom to know the difference?

Apparently, you need the _Whedon_ to know the difference. 😉

(A little late, but what the heck!)

> [@dropzone](#):
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> Boston isn’t? I thought the whole Eastern seaboard was only about twenty seven miles long.

Not sure exactly why, but that made me laugh out loud. 😃

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serenity-firefly-movie-delayed-to-september/276334/85 "2005-04-28T06:29:14Z")

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> [@Stricker van Gogh](#):
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> One of the screenings next week is in Seattle, right? You manage to get yourself a bunk for that showing?

Didn’t find out about it until the morning after it was announced. Long sold out by the time I hit the site. ☹

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**Author:** ![NE\_Texan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e99b99/32.png) [@NE\_Texan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NE_Texan)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serenity-firefly-movie-delayed-to-september/276334/86 "2005-04-29T03:07:15Z")

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I wonder if there are enough people interested for a “film festival” (DVD festival?) of Firefly. Similar to the Star Trek (TOS) series of threads going on in Cafe Society, we could discuss one episode a week (reviewing the DVDs or doing them from memory or whatever). The number of episodes out would cover a good chunk of the time between now and the movie, at the rate of one per week. Anyone interested?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serenity-firefly-movie-delayed-to-september/276334/87 "2005-04-29T04:12:49Z")

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I’m down with that.

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**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serenity-firefly-movie-delayed-to-september/276334/88 "2005-04-29T05:53:43Z")

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Sign me up, **Tex.** Would Monday evening suit? That way folks can watch them over the weekends at their leisure, and weigh in on Monday night.

Doesn’t really matter to me what night we do it though; for _ **Firefly** _ I’d make the time.

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**Author:** ![Tarrsk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/97f17d/32.png) [@Tarrsk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tarrsk)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serenity-firefly-movie-delayed-to-september/276334/89 "2005-04-29T06:07:11Z")

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Count me in.

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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serenity-firefly-movie-delayed-to-september/276334/90 "2005-04-29T10:50:49Z")

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Firefly club threads… sounds cool, I’m in!!

A few questions naturally pop up… do we go in broadcast order or DVD order??

Does ‘Serenity’ count as one episode or two? (I mean, do we watch it all one week, or do half one week and half the next??)

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**Author:** ![poeticyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/6bbea6/32.png) [@poeticyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/poeticyde)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serenity-firefly-movie-delayed-to-september/276334/91 "2005-04-29T12:44:46Z")

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I’m all for that! I say we go in DVD order, otherwise known as the “right” order, as the broadcast order is the “Fox-execs-with-their-heads-in-their-a$$” order.

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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serenity-firefly-movie-delayed-to-september/276334/92 "2005-04-29T13:30:39Z")

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> [@poeticyde](#):
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> I’m all for that! I say we go in DVD order, otherwise known as the “right” order, as the broadcast order is the “Fox-execs-with-their-heads-in-their-a$$” order.

Sounds good to me, a little easier to follow… though someone should probably still post the ‘right’ order, since it’s a little hard to figure out the sequence of episodes on a disk based on some of those DVD menus… ‘okay, does it go left to right, THEN top to bottom or the other way around?’ 😉

‘Serenity’ this weekend??

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**Author:** ![Santos\_L\_Halper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/santos_l_halper/32/1_2.png) [@Santos\_L\_Halper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santos_L_Halper)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serenity-firefly-movie-delayed-to-september/276334/93 "2005-04-29T13:43:10Z")

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Another yes vote. I agree we should go with the Whedon order, not the Fox order. 🙂 It shouldn’t be too confusing, **Chris** , the sleeve for each disc has the list of episodes on the back:

**Disc 1:**  
Serenity  
The Train Job  
Bushwhacked

**Disc 2:**  
Shindig  
Safe  
Our Mrs. Reynolds  
Jaynestown

**Disc 3:**  
Out of Gas  
Ariel  
War Stories  
Trash

**Disc 4:**  
The Message  
Heart of Gold  
Objects in Space

And I think we should do Serenity as one two hour episode.

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**Author:** ![NE\_Texan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e99b99/32.png) [@NE\_Texan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NE_Texan)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serenity-firefly-movie-delayed-to-september/276334/94 "2005-04-29T13:45:55Z")

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Cool! Sounds like we have support.

DVD order - and in the first post, let’s post the order, to avoid confusion.

I think we should count all of “Serenity” as one, so that we can discuss the whole thing at once. What does everyone think?

**ExTank** , my Monday evenings are pretty bad. If the onus of starting the threads falls to me for making the suggestion, then they’re not getting started Monday nights. Tuesdays, maybe. On the other hand, if someone else wants to start the threads on Monday, that’s fine, and I’ll join in later.

Or, for that matter, I could start them Sunday night.

**chrisk** suggested starting with the first one this weekend. Would we gain more interest by putting a thread in CS saying we’re going to do this, then give everyone a week to watch it? Maybe some of the somewhat interested people (tan shirts? 😉 ) would want to buy/rent/borrow the DVD to watch, and we’d get a broader discussion group.

Thoughts?

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**Author:** ![NE\_Texan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e99b99/32.png) [@NE\_Texan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NE_Texan)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serenity-firefly-movie-delayed-to-september/276334/95 "2005-04-29T13:47:13Z")

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> [@NE Texan](#):
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> DVD order - and in the first post, let’s post the order, to avoid confusion.

Alternately, **Santos** can sneak in while I’m composing my post, and post the order for us… (thanks!)

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**Author:** ![poeticyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/6bbea6/32.png) [@poeticyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/poeticyde)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serenity-firefly-movie-delayed-to-september/276334/96 "2005-04-29T14:20:13Z")

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I second that we start a new thread, and give a week to watch/review.

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**Author:** ![Tarrsk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/97f17d/32.png) [@Tarrsk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tarrsk)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serenity-firefly-movie-delayed-to-september/276334/97 "2005-04-29T14:37:02Z")

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Post a new thread- it’ll be much more interesting if we can get a few people who are seeing Firefly for the first time to post. Might want to put links to the DVDs on Amazon and Netflix in the OP as well, for the same reason.

We should definitely watch “Serenity” as one episode. I don’t know where the break between “part 1” and “part 2” actually occurs, in any case. 😉

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**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serenity-firefly-movie-delayed-to-september/276334/98 "2005-04-29T14:52:58Z")

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> [@Tarrsk](#):
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> We should definitely watch “Serenity” as one episode. I don’t know where the break between “part 1” and “part 2” actually occurs, in any case. 😉

I agree–one episode. (I watched it on Tuesday, but I’ll be happy to watch it again for discussion purposes. I’ll take one for the team. 😉 ) And I’m pretty sure the break goes right after Mal opens the cryochamber thing, sees River all naked and unconscious, and says “Huh.” Which is actually a fabulous place to leave it, if you ask me. 🙂

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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serenity-firefly-movie-delayed-to-september/276334/99 "2005-04-29T14:54:04Z")

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Okay, Serenity next week… that works for me. (not “Serenity now!!” 😃 )

As another point of procedure, we should come up with a standard for spoilers and other references in discussion to further episodes that haven’t appeared on the schedule yet, (though we don’t have as much further canon to worry about as the trekkies do. 😉 )  
By the way, I’ll be able to post thread starters on monday evenings. 😃

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**Author:** ![NE\_Texan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e99b99/32.png) [@NE\_Texan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NE_Texan)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serenity-firefly-movie-delayed-to-september/276334/100 "2005-04-29T15:08:00Z")

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Hmmm… spoilers. Probably not a big issue, but let’s address it. My suggestion:

- The word “spoilers” in the thread titles.
- Open discussion and assumed spoilers about the episode under discussion and every previous episode.
- Ask people to use spoiler warnings if they want to bring up points from later episodes.
- Definitely spoiler warnings if anyone wants to use info from the movie - some people will have seen it, others will have read about it, so information will be around, but a lot of us won’t want the movie spoiled until we see it.

Did I miss anything?

Timing:

- This weekend, an announcement in CS
- Next weekend, we all start watching with Serenity
- First thread starts May 8th ish.

What do y’all think?

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