# Serenity: from someone who hasn't seen Firefly(WARNING:open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 13, 2005, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serenity-from-someone-who-hasnt-seen-firefly-warning-open-spoilers/326045 "2005-10-13T12:10:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2005, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serenity-from-someone-who-hasnt-seen-firefly-warning-open-spoilers/326045/21 "2005-10-14T14:13:39Z")
Don’t forget, it opened at #1 in the UK. I hope this movie gets a good release in Japan. I think it might be very successful there. ---
**Author:** ![Gozu\_Tashoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7993a0/32.png) [@Gozu\_Tashoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gozu_Tashoya)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2005, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serenity-from-someone-who-hasnt-seen-firefly-warning-open-spoilers/326045/22 "2005-10-14T17:23:02Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > A thought: Isn’t the SciFi network currently showing reruns of the series? There may be some folks watching the series now, and waiting on the movie until they’ve seen all the episodes. If this is the case, we should expect an upswing in the box office on the weekend or two after the series finishes. If it’s still in the theaters (fingers crossed). I’m not sure about “currently” (which it probably is), but they made an effort to get all the 9 originally aired episodes shown before the release of _Serenity_. I think this culminiated in a 3- or 4-episode marathon the last week before the movie. I believe that makes the last episode shown “Ariel,” and I’m not sure if they did/are going to show the episodes that didn’t air the first time around. (I’ll ask the SciFi fans here at work; they may know better.) So, the short of it is, unless they’ll be airing the previously DVD-only episodes, I think SciFi has given the movie all the uptick in sales it’s gonna see. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2005, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serenity-from-someone-who-hasnt-seen-firefly-warning-open-spoilers/326045/23 "2005-10-14T19:50:40Z")
> [@Sam Stone](#): > > Don’t forget, it opened at #1 in the UK. > > I hope this movie gets a good release in Japan. I think it might be very successful there. I’m fairly certain it opened at #2 and only took over #1 a few days later. ---
**Author:** ![FlightlessBird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cdc98d/32.png) [@FlightlessBird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlightlessBird)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2005, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serenity-from-someone-who-hasnt-seen-firefly-warning-open-spoilers/326045/24 "2005-10-14T20:08:20Z")
I think the big hang up on future episodes is that Whedon, rightly, won’t work with FUX again and they own the TV rights. Universal owns the rights to the movie. Unless FUX sells the rights for the series to someone else, we won’t see Firefly back on the little screen again. And I think that’s good. I say this as a big fan of both, but if the series came back, I think we’d all be in for a big disappointment. At this point, we’ve all deified the show, and nothing can live up to that kind of expectation. I hope for many more movies and will be first, second and third in line. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2005, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serenity-from-someone-who-hasnt-seen-firefly-warning-open-spoilers/326045/25 "2005-10-14T20:11:44Z")
> [@FlightlessBird](#): > > I think the big hang up on future episodes is that Whedon, rightly, won’t work with FUX again and they own the TV rights. Universal owns the rights to the movie. > Unless FUX sells the rights for the series to someone else, we won’t see Firefly back on the little screen again. I’m pretty sure that’s not true. When Fox first cancelled the show, they released their rights to the franchise so Joss could shop it to other networks. I suppose there might have been a time limit of this, and that the TV rights reverted to Fox when another buyer didn’t materialize, but I’m pretty sure they no longer have any claim on the show. ---
**Author:** ![Jenny\_Haniver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Jenny\_Haniver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenny_Haniver)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2005, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serenity-from-someone-who-hasnt-seen-firefly-warning-open-spoilers/326045/26 "2005-10-14T20:30:08Z")
> [@Raguleader](#): > > Heh, and having seen The Corpse Bride, I have to say that’s rather unfortunate :rolleyes: (Don’t get me wrong, it wasn’t a bad movie at all, it just wasn’t all that remarkably good) I’ll say it. _Corpse Bride_ sucked. I don’t know how they went so wrong, but woah. Even the songs were crap. _Especially_ the songs. And on topic, I have to say, each time I see _Serenity_, it gets better. But I have to say, if it did come back as a TV show, I would want to see “lighter” Mal again, even though that was the Fox execs and not Joss’s vision, blah blah blah. I likes the funny. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2005, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serenity-from-someone-who-hasnt-seen-firefly-warning-open-spoilers/326045/27 "2005-10-14T20:51:57Z")
\*Serenity \*was good but I’ve seen it twice and it suffered the second time around and has made me leery of seeing it a third time. ---
**Author:** ![ddgryphon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8c91f0/32.png) [@ddgryphon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ddgryphon)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2005, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serenity-from-someone-who-hasnt-seen-firefly-warning-open-spoilers/326045/28 "2005-10-14T21:23:06Z")
> [@Aesiron](#): > > \*Serenity \*was good but I’ve seen it twice and it suffered the second time around and has made me leery of seeing it a third time. I have to agree with Jenny: gets better for me and I’m looking forward to viewing #3. I’ve conned my father, a long time western fan into seeing it this weekend. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2005, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serenity-from-someone-who-hasnt-seen-firefly-warning-open-spoilers/326045/29 "2005-10-14T21:36:31Z")
> [@FlightlessBird](#): > > I think the big hang up on future episodes is that Whedon, rightly, won’t work with FUX again and they own the TV rights. Universal owns the rights to the movie. > Unless FUX sells the rights for the series to someone else, we won’t see Firefly back on the little screen again. Joss might be willing to have them produce a series but put it on another network. ---
**Author:** ![FlightlessBird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cdc98d/32.png) [@FlightlessBird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlightlessBird)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2005, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serenity-from-someone-who-hasnt-seen-firefly-warning-open-spoilers/326045/30 "2005-10-14T22:00:29Z")
You guys may be right, I’ve since found some contradictory information like: [It’s reported that Joss said in a Q&A:](http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=20781) . > [@](#): > > The Firefly series broadcast rights are owned by Fox and he will not work with them again [or this](http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/13.09/play.html?pg=1): > [@](#): > > OCTOBER 2004: Whedon ends his TV production deal with Fox. But then there’s [this](http://www.moviehole.net/news/6251.html) > [@](#): > > The day came in mid-2004 when Universal Pictures agreed to acquire the rights to Firefly from 20th Century Fox Television. Whedon had convinced the studio to take a chance on a big-screen version of his short-lived space serial. and [this](http://www.cinescape.com/0/editorial.asp?aff_id=0&this_cat=Television&action=page&type_id=&cat_id=270355&obj_id=49138) > [@](#): > > Now, Universal owns the rights to Firefly and they also own Sci-Fi. So who knows who’s right?! Whatever the case may be, I hate FOX for dismantling this show. And I wouldn’t be surprised if Joss doesn’t want to work with them if it can be helped. ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2005, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serenity-from-someone-who-hasnt-seen-firefly-warning-open-spoilers/326045/31 "2005-10-15T05:36:26Z")
> [@KKBattousai](#): > > I’m not sure about “currently” (which it probably is), but they made an effort to get all the 9 originally aired episodes shown before the release of _Serenity_. I think this culminiated in a 3- or 4-episode marathon the last week before the movie. I believe that makes the last episode shown “Ariel,” and I’m not sure if they did/are going to show the episodes that didn’t air the first time around. (I’ll ask the SciFi fans here at work; they may know better.) > > So, the short of it is, unless they’ll be airing the previously DVD-only episodes, I think SciFi has given the movie all the uptick in sales it’s gonna see. ☹ The Sci-Fi channel is definitely airing the previously DVD-only episodes; last week they did “Trash” and this week “The Message”. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serenity-from-someone-who-hasnt-seen-firefly-warning-open-spoilers/326045.md?page=1)