# Series you've recently watched, are now watching or have given up on **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted\ **Created:** [July 9, 2021, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/series-youve-recently-watched-are-now-watching-or-have-given-up-on/946108 "2021-07-09T17:50:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 74
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/series-youve-recently-watched-are-now-watching-or-have-given-up-on/946108/1462 "2022-07-05T07:12:33Z")
Just like _Adirondacks_. > [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > “The _Navajo Times_ criticized the series for lacking authenticity in its representation of Navajo people and language.” ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/series-youve-recently-watched-are-now-watching-or-have-given-up-on/946108/1463 "2022-07-06T18:04:38Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > “The _Navajo Times_ criticized the series for lacking authenticity in its representation of Navajo people and language.” I have noticed several ways the series made cultural changes, some of them really extreme. I’m guessing it was to make the show more accessible, but I wish they hadn’t. There are other ways they could have handled it. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/series-youve-recently-watched-are-now-watching-or-have-given-up-on/946108/1464 "2022-07-06T18:08:53Z")
Can you say what they are? One thing I noticed right away was the Navajo characters being o.k. with being around corpses. My memory from the books was that this was a very strong tabu and wouldn’t have been breeched as easily as it was in the show. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/series-youve-recently-watched-are-now-watching-or-have-given-up-on/946108/1465 "2022-07-06T18:13:20Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > “The _Navajo Times_ criticized the series for lacking authenticity in its representation of Navajo people and language.” Well, this is typical for pretty much ALL television and movie presentations of all people everywhere. Not sure I can get too excited over it, but then I’m not Navajo. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/series-youve-recently-watched-are-now-watching-or-have-given-up-on/946108/1466 "2022-07-06T18:17:30Z")
I binge-watched the first four episodes (of _[Dark Winds](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Winds)_) over the last couple of days. I don’t know how inauthentic it is but supposedly all of the writers are Native American, though perhaps not of the Navaho nation. I did have one question, though. We saw that the bad guys were transferring some of the cash from the bank heist by hiding it in the frame of that cactus painting. But wouldn’t anyone handling the painting immediately notice that it was unusually heavy? And, by the way, why was Bernadette (the police sergeant) being so cagy about her clan? ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/series-youve-recently-watched-are-now-watching-or-have-given-up-on/946108/1467 "2022-07-06T18:20:36Z")
I was wondering the same thing. The writing is a bit uneven for this series. Also, I can’t tell if they’re doing flashbacks sometimes or not. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/series-youve-recently-watched-are-now-watching-or-have-given-up-on/946108/1468 "2022-07-06T18:21:54Z")
In Navajo culture, certain clans are not supposed to inter-marry. By asking Bernadette her clan, he’s subtly showing that he’s interested in her. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/series-youve-recently-watched-are-now-watching-or-have-given-up-on/946108/1469 "2022-07-06T18:34:24Z")
> [@carrps](#): > > One thing I noticed right away was the Navajo characters being o.k. with being around corpses. My memory from the books was that this was a very strong tabu and wouldn’t have been breeched as easily as it was in the show. The death taboos for sure (and there are several types of taboos), the clans bit, also you see Pueblo culture mixed in. I think they have also minimized the absolutely grinding poverty that existed then and undoubtedly exists today. Things are clean, unpatched, water is available for example. All of that said, there is a lot they’re doing right: Native American cast, Native American writers and crew. I hope it’s a model for other shows. I’m enjoying it and I’m glad it’s been renewed. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/series-youve-recently-watched-are-now-watching-or-have-given-up-on/946108/1470 "2022-07-06T18:35:13Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > supposedly all of the writers are Native American, though perhaps not of the Navaho nation. Most all of the primary actors are not Navajo, other than Jeremiah Bitsui, so I can see how the language might get mangled. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/series-youve-recently-watched-are-now-watching-or-have-given-up-on/946108/1471 "2022-07-06T18:36:55Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Most all of the primary actors are not Navajo, other than Jeremiah Bitsui, so I can see how the language might get mangled. The actor who plays Leaphorn’s wife is Diné also. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/series-youve-recently-watched-are-now-watching-or-have-given-up-on/946108/1472 "2022-07-06T18:39:17Z")
The show may not be _completely_ authentic, but until I watched it, I didn’t know that the language and the people are called Diné, or that they have that rite of passage for girls. So I learned stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/series-youve-recently-watched-are-now-watching-or-have-given-up-on/946108/1473 "2022-07-06T18:43:13Z")
It’s great that Indians are getting Indian roles for a change. My daughter-in-law’s sister teaches band at a mostly Native school. She says her Native students are thrilled to see themselves represented on the screen in series like Reservation Dogs for a change. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/series-youve-recently-watched-are-now-watching-or-have-given-up-on/946108/1474 "2022-07-06T18:52:26Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > I’m enjoying it and I’m glad it’s been renewed. Me, too. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2022, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/series-youve-recently-watched-are-now-watching-or-have-given-up-on/946108/1475 "2022-07-08T16:25:12Z")
We watched the first three eps of “Only Murders in the Building” (season 2). It’s every bit as bad as season one. I had forgotten just how unfunny these people can be. If it wasn’t for Martin Short doing some heavy lifting, it would not even elicit the occasional chuckle in each episode. Selena Gomez continues to be nearly catatonic, with some intermittent signs of life. The best bits involve the secondary cast members. Oh, and Amy Shumer? Please go away. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2022, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/series-youve-recently-watched-are-now-watching-or-have-given-up-on/946108/1476 "2022-07-08T16:41:17Z")
I _literally_ do not get the appreciation for that one. I figure you have to be closer to that social milieu to get it, and as a suburbanite, ¯\_(ツ)\_/¯ OTOH, anyone who has ever worked in the food industry will enjoy **The Bear** on Hulu (for me, I think it’s also an F/X show). ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2022, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/series-youve-recently-watched-are-now-watching-or-have-given-up-on/946108/1477 "2022-07-08T16:42:16Z")
yeah, the NY Times has been giddy in anticipation of OMITB Season 2. I watched most of Season 1 (and gave up) and I just don’t get it. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2022, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/series-youve-recently-watched-are-now-watching-or-have-given-up-on/946108/1478 "2022-07-08T16:46:01Z")
Television used to be so limited that Henny Youngman would get big ratings making jokes about various NYC neighborhoods the country had never seen. Now television is so fragmented that Steve Martin gets big reviews making jokes about various NYC tenant coops the country has never seen. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2022, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/series-youve-recently-watched-are-now-watching-or-have-given-up-on/946108/1479 "2022-07-08T16:48:52Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Now television is so fragmented that Steve Martin gets big reviews making jokes about various NYC tenant coops the country has never seen. On top of which, unless you’re a show-biz insider, a lot of what is said sails right over one’s head. They seem to be more interested in entertaining each other (and a select audience) rather than the general television audience. I’m done with it, although my wife, who lived in NYC for some years, may want to continue. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2022, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/series-youve-recently-watched-are-now-watching-or-have-given-up-on/946108/1480 "2022-07-08T16:58:05Z")
Personally, I like the show (Only Murders in the Building) and particularly like the building. The exterior shots are of a real NYC apartment building called the Belnord (though I think that’s an uglier name than the in-show name of the Arconia), and before the second season aired, the New York Times ran an [article](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/27/realestate/only-murders-in-the-building-belnord-arconia.html?unlocked_article_code=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACEIPuomT1JKd6J17Vw1cRCfTTMQmqxCdw_PIxftm3iWka3DLDmwdiP4YCoyN4FvEeackYN03znGeWcVNPaU0Af10i_NfMglnVgisrpqCl9EPLiEzrpi_G2os1JXLXLl-8SPvaiPxDtZD84CFnkDMNimsU7rCgTZnfFw79Y1jdwr8inJZkbPHRbN2xtUt2vw-VphxRSMGYyKKvPjiAkl8Od2Wf1qLvFlNLuJaUDzRmdKOuflXIEgJVwWwHD4o6n086dhcJNoSIK_1ShYkc8b6irwbYXd6eMbrX9ZiAtiJyMg59OLFuheOy8GpxvQpFasyvLzMtmmyNVdHW6oP4kX3V084R70UjIvExWD6&smid=url-share) (gift link) about the real building. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2022, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/series-youve-recently-watched-are-now-watching-or-have-given-up-on/946108/1481 "2022-07-08T17:00:40Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > On top of which, unless you’re a show-biz insider, a lot of what is said sails right over one’s head. They seem to be more interested in entertaining each other (and a select audience) rather than the general television audience. That very much makes me think of the claim that _Turning Red_ is only appealing to Asian women from Toronto. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/series-youve-recently-watched-are-now-watching-or-have-given-up-on/946108.md?page=73) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/series-youve-recently-watched-are-now-watching-or-have-given-up-on/946108.md?page=75)