# Seriously, heckle the President and get taken out. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 15, 2012, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-heckle-the-president-and-get-taken-out/625279 "2012-06-15T20:20:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Farmer\_Jane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Farmer\_Jane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Farmer_Jane)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2012, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-heckle-the-president-and-get-taken-out/625279/41 "2012-06-15T23:20:43Z")
Who friggin cares? Work permits for my graduating seniors. YES FUCKING PLEASE. ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2012, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-heckle-the-president-and-get-taken-out/625279/42 "2012-06-16T00:18:00Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > Munro is a political operative, not a journalist. And he proved it today. Theator. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2012, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-heckle-the-president-and-get-taken-out/625279/43 "2012-06-16T00:37:00Z")
> [@howye](#): > > Its not racism, but it is further proof that Tucker Carlson is a dick. And lo, another teaspoon of soil was laid atop mighty Everest. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2012, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-heckle-the-president-and-get-taken-out/625279/44 "2012-06-16T01:01:53Z")
After the Daily Caller’s representative at the Press Conference interrupted the President twice in the middle of his speech, the conservative publication declared that they were [proud](http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/daily-caller-proud-of-reporter-who-interrupted-obama?ref=fpblg) of their reporter. > [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > I have no problem with escorting the guy out of the room if he is interfering with other journalist’s ability to ask questions, or the President’s answers, but journalists have been heckling the POTUS throughout the entire history of the United States. The idea that the press owes the POTUS some kind of decorum didn’t develop until the second half of the twentieth century, and now it’s fading again. And I’m just “meh” about that. Look, when an accepted rule of decorum is shattered in a blatant fashion, it should be noted and the perps should be admonished. Whatever the day and age. Unless the rule is demonstrably ill-advised, which this one isn’t. ## Also, cite about journalists heckling Presidents during Rose Garden speeches any time in history? Or something clearly analogous, as opposed to heckling during a non-televised press conference? Overall, I see this as yet another indication that modern conservatives have no argument, only digestive fluid. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2012, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-heckle-the-president-and-get-taken-out/625279/45 "2012-06-16T01:25:02Z")
It’s times like this that I wish Obama had [Barney Frank](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYlZiWK2Iy8) as an attack-dog Veep. He’d come in handy during times like this. (video is an oldie but a goodie). ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2012, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-heckle-the-president-and-get-taken-out/625279/46 "2012-06-16T01:34:30Z")
I don’t really get the outrage, at least not for the reporter. He at least admitted he didn’t mean to interrupt the POTUS, making his boss look like an even bigger douche in the process. ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2012, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-heckle-the-president-and-get-taken-out/625279/47 "2012-06-16T01:53:14Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > I don’t really get the outrage, at least not for the reporter. He at least admitted he didn’t mean to interrupt the POTUS, making his boss look like an even bigger douche in the process. The reporter is a douchebag. You know what douchebags do? They intentionally interrupt presidents of the United States and then lie about it, knowing there will always be people who will give them unearned benefit of the doubt. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2012, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-heckle-the-president-and-get-taken-out/625279/48 "2012-06-16T01:59:05Z")
I’m not giving him the benefit of the doubt, earned or otherwise. I just can’t figure out what his motivation for lying about it would be. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2012, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-heckle-the-president-and-get-taken-out/625279/49 "2012-06-16T02:04:51Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > I just can’t figure out what his motivation for lying about it would be. …Really? You can’t figure out why it might be better to say “Gosh, it was an accident” instead of “Yeah, I wanted to dick with the Prez”? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2012, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-heckle-the-president-and-get-taken-out/625279/50 "2012-06-16T02:07:59Z")
No, I can’t. He’s not a serious journalist; he works for the _Daily Caller_. Admitting he just wanted to fuck with the President will probably get him a book deal and a seat on Sarah Palin’s short bus tour. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2012, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-heckle-the-president-and-get-taken-out/625279/51 "2012-06-16T02:12:15Z")
Well, I suppose there is always the possibility he really is that fuckin’ dumb. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2012, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-heckle-the-president-and-get-taken-out/625279/52 "2012-06-16T02:30:25Z")
> [@Shakes](#): > > I’ll admit, this is my own armchair theory, so take that for what it’s worth. > > There are different levels a racism. I don’t think these people out right hate blacks. I do believe (And again, this is just my theory) that on a subconscious level, some of these folks don’t give the President the respect he deserves because he is black. But when, on the House floor, Pete Stark said that George Bush was amused at the prospect of American servicemen getting their heads blown off in Iraq..… he just deserved it, I imagine? It was ok to say that to Bush, because, you know, Shrub, Chimp, he lied people died? How about this theory: people have been disrespectful to this President, as they were to the last one, and as they will be to the next one. Period. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2012, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-heckle-the-president-and-get-taken-out/625279/53 "2012-06-16T02:33:30Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > But when, on the House floor, Pete Stark said that George Bush was amused at the prospect of American servicemen getting their heads blown off in Iraq..… he just deserved it, I imagine? It was ok to say that to Bush, because, you know, Shrub, Chimp, he lied people died? > > How about this theory: people have been disrespectful to this President, as they were to the last one, and as they will be to the next one. Period. Pete Stark interrupted George Bush when he did that? Must have slipped by me. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2012, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-heckle-the-president-and-get-taken-out/625279/54 "2012-06-16T03:08:57Z")
What kind of reporter heckles? Tucker Carlson is defending the man, that is all you need to know. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2012, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-heckle-the-president-and-get-taken-out/625279/55 "2012-06-16T03:13:41Z")
Heh…Fucker Carlson’s attack dog got bit! ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2012, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-heckle-the-president-and-get-taken-out/625279/56 "2012-06-16T03:51:29Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > But when, on the House floor, Pete Stark said that George Bush was amused at the prospect of American servicemen getting their heads blown off in Iraq..… he just deserved it, I imagine? It was ok to say that to Bush, because, you know, Shrub, Chimp, he lied people died? > > How about this theory: people have been disrespectful to this President, as they were to the last one, and as they will be to the next one. Period. Perfect false equivalence. Pete Stark was advocating a children’s health program, and made a passing and inflammatory reference to the President. I think it’s fair to call it a mis-step. He barely escaped House censor and apologized for his remarks. Pelosi immediately called them “inappropriate”: I would agree given the setting. [Congressman apologizes for Iraq remarks - UPI.com](http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2007/10/23/Congressman-apologizes-for-Iraq-remarks/UPI-98221193173847/) In contrast, we get a baloney explanation by the conservative reporter following his two rude interruptions, along with expressions of pride by his publisher. Sorry, Bricker, but there’s no parallel. I call upon the Daily Caller to issue an immediate apology to the President and the American people. I call upon all conservatives of strong and weak character to renounce such behavior. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2012, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-heckle-the-president-and-get-taken-out/625279/57 "2012-06-16T04:05:03Z")
**Measure for measure** , all anybody needs to know about you is that you dismissed my comments upthread as “conservative pride” (In bold even), when my very first post in this thread said that I like Obama and will vote for him again. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2012, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-heckle-the-president-and-get-taken-out/625279/58 "2012-06-16T04:28:25Z")
I think one thing that causes this, is that conservatives right now believe so much asinine bullshit that they’re angry. Like if you were the sort of conservative that believes that Obama is willfully destroying the economy and that Obamacare is a powergrab and that there are FEMA camps for conservatives… that shit would make you angry if you thought it were true. So of course they’re full of venom, because they believe such nutty shit it makes them outraged. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2012, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-heckle-the-president-and-get-taken-out/625279/59 "2012-06-16T04:30:17Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > But when, on the House floor, Pete Stark said that George Bush was amused at the prospect of American servicemen getting their heads blown off in Iraq..… he just deserved it, I imagine? It was ok to say that to Bush, because, you know, Shrub, Chimp, he lied people died? > > How about this theory: people have been disrespectful to this President, as they were to the last one, and as they will be to the next one. Period. This post is classic Bricker. _Buh buh buh, you guys do it toooooooooooooo!!11o11o_ ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2012, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-heckle-the-president-and-get-taken-out/625279/60 "2012-06-16T05:17:36Z")
I disagree strongly with the OP. Politicians, of all people, should be heckled pretty freely, not treated with kid gloves. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-heckle-the-president-and-get-taken-out/625279.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-heckle-the-president-and-get-taken-out/625279.md?page=4)