# Seriously, heckle the President and get taken out. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 15, 2012, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-heckle-the-president-and-get-taken-out/625279 "2012-06-15T20:20:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2012, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-heckle-the-president-and-get-taken-out/625279/81 "2012-06-16T17:26:57Z")
Just to be completely clear, I’d love to see how Really Not All That Bright explains this as > [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > He at least admitted he didn’t mean to interrupt the POTUS I’m reasonably sure RNATB won’t watch a video, so let’s bring the transcript of the first interruption full square into view. > [@](#): > > Now, let’s be clear – this is not amnesty, this is not immunity. This is not a path to citizenship. It’s not a permanent fix. This is a temporary stopgap measure that lets us focus our resources wisely while giving a degree of relief and hope to talented, driven, patriotic young people. It is – > > Q (Inaudible.) > > THE PRESIDENT: – the right thing to do. > > Q – foreigners over American workers. > > THE PRESIDENT: Excuse me, sir. It’s not time for questions, sir. > > Q No, you have to take questions. > > THE PRESIDENT: Not while I’m speaking. > (speech continues) Precisely because this is temporary, Congress needs to act. Did you ever slip and fall on someone and wind up having sex accidentally? Does this reporter have Tourette’s Syndrome, but only for Democratic Presidents? Are they in the third grade? This is the middle of a sentence. This is not shouting questions that are ignored, this is trying to shout down the President in the middle, not the end, of a speech. ---
**Author:** ![dauerbach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c2a13f/32.png) [@dauerbach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dauerbach)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2012, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-heckle-the-president-and-get-taken-out/625279/82 "2012-06-16T17:35:23Z")
As noted by Marley23, I was referring to the fact that each had been shot. I don’t think getting interrupted while speaking is in the same ball park. At all. Not even close. Also, it is amusing that agreeing that it was incredibly rude and unprofessional on the part of the reporter does not seem to matter if I do not also think that it was done because he is black. Sorry, I cannot become a racist just because you are. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2012, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-heckle-the-president-and-get-taken-out/625279/83 "2012-06-16T17:54:12Z")
> [@dauerbach](#): > > I don’t think getting interrupted while speaking is in the same ball park. At all. Not even close. Do you think anybody does believe they’re in the same ballpark? > [@](#): > > Sorry, I cannot become a racist just because you are. Not this shit again. The OP is wrong at least in this instance, but the ‘you must be a racist if you call someone else a racist’ thing doesn’t even make sense. ---
**Author:** ![11811](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/9d8465/32.png) [@11811](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/11811)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2012, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-heckle-the-president-and-get-taken-out/625279/84 "2012-06-16T18:03:01Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > \In this case Obama was just giving the speech and was not taking questions. Which is just what you’d do if you wanted to make a right-wing blogger look bad. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2012, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-heckle-the-president-and-get-taken-out/625279/85 "2012-06-16T18:04:04Z")
> [@E-Sabbath](#): > > Did you ever slip and fall on someone and wind up having sex accidentally? Sadly, no. I didn’t realize he started talking again after the President had gone back to speaking, which makes it fairly implausible that he actually thought Obama was finished, I admit. > [@Clothahump](#): > > # The headline on that link read: Reporter Neil Munro Interrupts, Heckles President During Remarks > > There was no heckling. Asking serious questions is only heckling in the minds of twits like Ariana Huffington and her ilk. […and Chris Wallace and Shepard Smith](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/15/neil-munro-chris-wallace-fox-news-obama_n_1601239.html). ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2012, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-heckle-the-president-and-get-taken-out/625279/86 "2012-06-16T18:10:29Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Hey, how about posting those videos where Kennedy and Reagan are interrupted during speeches? > > I sure would like to see those. “Ask not what your country can do for you, but… excuse me… sir… you’ll have to ask Marilyn that yourself, sir, and this is _not_ the, ah, propah time…” ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2012, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-heckle-the-president-and-get-taken-out/625279/87 "2012-06-16T18:15:02Z")
He called the guy “Sir”. Did Munro call him “Sir”? Now, nobody who knows me doubts my contempt for GeeDubya. But in a comparatively formal setting, I would address him as “Sir” even if I couldn’t bring myself to calling him “Mr. President”. But I was brought up right, and had a proper raisin’! ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2012, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-heckle-the-president-and-get-taken-out/625279/88 "2012-06-16T18:30:23Z")
It is generally rude to interrupt anyone while they are talking. It isn’t illegal. Let the Daily Caller people spend the rest of their lives with the other citizens, not in the journalist area. Since Carlson defended it, Carlson and all his publications should have his press pass to the White House pulled permanently. There was a time Carlson was a real journalist, but it is long ago. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2012, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-heckle-the-president-and-get-taken-out/625279/89 "2012-06-16T18:42:33Z")
> [@dauerbach](#): > > As noted by Marley23, I was referring to the fact that each had been shot. I don’t think getting interrupted while speaking is in the same ball park. At all. Not even close. So because Obama has not been shot, this means there are no racists in the country who do not like him because he is black. Your logic circuits are fried. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2012, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-heckle-the-president-and-get-taken-out/625279/90 "2012-06-16T18:55:28Z")
> [@dauerbach](#): > > As noted by Marley23, I was referring to the fact that each had been shot. I don’t think getting interrupted while speaking is in the same ball park. At all. Not even close. Were they shot by credentialed members of the White House press corps? ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2012, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-heckle-the-president-and-get-taken-out/625279/91 "2012-06-16T19:04:06Z")
> [@dauerbach](#): > > As noted by Marley23, I was referring to the fact that each had been shot. I don’t think getting interrupted while speaking is in the same ball park. At all. Not even close. > > Also, it is amusing that agreeing that it was incredibly rude and unprofessional on the part of the reporter does not seem to matter if I do not also think that it was done because he is black. Sorry, I cannot become a racist just because you are. I think there is a flaw in your reasoning. You’ve never been shot and I have so little respect for you that it’s staggering. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2012, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-heckle-the-president-and-get-taken-out/625279/92 "2012-06-16T19:22:31Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > # The headline on that link read: Reporter Neil Munro Interrupts, Heckles President During Remarks > > There was no heckling. Asking serious questions is only heckling in the minds of twits like Ariana Huffington and her ilk. Except that his editor, Tucker Carlson, basically admitted the “reporter” was heckling the President. ---
**Author:** ![dauerbach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c2a13f/32.png) [@dauerbach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dauerbach)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2012, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-heckle-the-president-and-get-taken-out/625279/93 "2012-06-16T20:30:09Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > I think there is a flaw in your reasoning. You’ve never been shot and I have so little respect for you that it’s staggering. Huh? Did you read what I said? Clearly you thought I said that everyone who has little respect for a particular other person will always shoot them. Please re-read, s l o w l y. If there is still a problem let me know and I will rephrase in words of two letters or less. ---
**Author:** ![dauerbach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c2a13f/32.png) [@dauerbach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dauerbach)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2012, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-heckle-the-president-and-get-taken-out/625279/94 "2012-06-16T20:39:13Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > So because Obama has not been shot, this means there are no racists in the country who do not like him because he is black. > > Your logic circuits are fried. I actually said nothing like that at all. I be now just use tiny words, OK? ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2012, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-heckle-the-president-and-get-taken-out/625279/95 "2012-06-16T20:46:06Z")
> [@dauerbach](#): > > Huh? Did you read what I said? Clearly you thought I said that everyone who has little respect for a particular other person will always shoot them. Please re-read, s l o w l y. If there is still a problem let me know and I will rephrase in words of two letters or less. Yeah, good show, that. In any case, you’re full of shit, because you’re claiming that being shot is somehow the next stage on the disrespect-o-meter and one must progress from heckling to it. You’re not making sense. So take your small words and stick them right up your reproductive member and smash them flat with a hammer. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Peanut\_Gallery](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/838e76/32.png) [@Peanut\_Gallery](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peanut_Gallery)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2012, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-heckle-the-president-and-get-taken-out/625279/96 "2012-06-16T22:53:58Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > Since Carlson defended it, Carlson and all his publications should have his press pass to the White House pulled permanently. That would seem to be an obvious and completely justified result, but I think they might be hoping for that. In the spirit of “when there is no story, create one”, creating such a scene is a win-win-win with their mouth-breathing audience. Even with Obama’s mellow handling of it, they get another “Obama disrespected like he deserves!” headline. **(Win A)** (Didn’t Wilson raise a shit-load of money after “You lie!”? And hell, we all know his name now, which is more than he had.) But even better, if they had actually gotten a rise out of him (you’d think they’d know by now that that can’t be done) **(Win B)** would have been “Obama started a shouting match with our righteous reporter who simply asked a question!” And they are still sitting back hoping for the best of all, **Win C** : “Obama admin _censors the press_!!!1!” if they revoke press clearance. In short … trolling. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-heckle-the-president-and-get-taken-out/625279/97 "2012-06-17T00:21:26Z")
The phony apology is cover so they can play that third card in case the White House revokes their credentials. I assume that’s not going to happen anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-heckle-the-president-and-get-taken-out/625279/98 "2012-06-17T00:40:58Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Note: During SPEECHES, not during press conferences. So that tired Sam Donaldson trope that was being trotted out by the right yesterday isn’t relevant. Even during press conferences I don’t remember Sam Donaldson ever interrupting Reagan while Reagan was giving his opening statement. One could reasonably argue his questions were often heavily slanted and prejudicial but I don’t remember him ever behaving that way. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-heckle-the-president-and-get-taken-out/625279/99 "2012-06-17T00:56:33Z")
Tonight’s national news showed a clip of Bill O coming down on the side of the prez. His take: respect the office, even if you don’t like the occupant. ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-heckle-the-president-and-get-taken-out/625279/100 "2012-06-17T05:43:34Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > I would address him as “Sir” even if I couldn’t bring myself to calling him “Mr. President”. “All due respect, Sir, go fuck yourself”? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-heckle-the-president-and-get-taken-out/625279.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-heckle-the-president-and-get-taken-out/625279.md?page=6)