# Seriously, how can anyone believe in religions like Christianity?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 26, 2009, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-how-can-anyone-believe-in-religions-like-christianity/504294 "2009-07-26T04:37:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2009, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-how-can-anyone-believe-in-religions-like-christianity/504294/401 "2009-08-08T14:45:49Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Great, another “We could be living in a test tube being fed memories from a supercomputer!” argument. In that case, we don’t you just assume that this whole conversation is a frakkin’ illusion and just ignore it.

Because I’m here to combat the ignorance of my imaginary internet posters, and you asked a straight question for which there was a straight answer. Ignorance combated. Mission accomplished.

> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Please.

You are welcome

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2009, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-how-can-anyone-believe-in-religions-like-christianity/504294/402 "2009-08-08T14:49:58Z")

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> [@Hamadryad](#):
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> Be a coprophiliac. Just do it. NOW.

He is, he just jerks off to bullshit that’s spooned on him by ignorant bronze-age shepherds.

Thankfully he has me on ignore, so he won’t have to deal with reading that. 😃

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2009, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-how-can-anyone-believe-in-religions-like-christianity/504294/403 "2009-08-08T14:51:55Z")

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> [@Rune](#):
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> Because I’m here to combat the ignorance of my imaginary internet posters, and you asked a straight question for which there was a straight answer. Ignorance combated. Mission accomplished.  
> You are welcome

Repeat after me:  
_The Matrix_ is just a crappy skiffy flick.  
_The Matrix_ is just a crappy skiffy flick.  
_The Matrix_ is just a crappy skiffy flick.

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**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2009, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-how-can-anyone-believe-in-religions-like-christianity/504294/404 "2009-08-08T14:57:34Z")

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> [@Rune](#):
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> The whole and entirety of existence. There’s not a shred of evidence that everything I can sense or remember isn’t an illusion. I prefer to believe otherwise but every morning is an act of blind faith.

You’ve got it backwards - even if you can handwave fast enough to convince yourself that the evidence doesn’t count, it’s still there.

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**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2009, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-how-can-anyone-believe-in-religions-like-christianity/504294/405 "2009-08-08T15:05:33Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Repeat after me:  
> _The Matrix_ is just a crappy skiffy flick.  
> _The Matrix_ is just a crappy skiffy flick.  
> _The Matrix_ is just a crappy skiffy flick.

Americans and their movies.

> [@Grumman](#):
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> You’ve got it backwards - even if you can handwave fast enough to convince yourself that the evidence doesn’t count, it’s still there.

Nope. Look for instance [Solipsism](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solipsism).

Ultimately it is an unsatisfying and dead-end philosophy that won’t lead to any deeper insight. But there is no denying that it’s there and there is no way to disapprove it. And it does have some relevance when the discussion is of such basic things as the existence of God. And since Czarcasm asked a direct question.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2009, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-how-can-anyone-believe-in-religions-like-christianity/504294/406 "2009-08-08T17:21:05Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> But then again, some _are_.  
> Can you think of any other section of human life where blind faith is not only looked upon favorably, but is actually _required_?

Marriage? 😃

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2009, 9:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-how-can-anyone-believe-in-religions-like-christianity/504294/407 "2009-08-09T09:59:05Z")

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> [@Rune](#):
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> The whole and entirety of existence. There’s not a shred of evidence that everything I can sense or remember isn’t an illusion. I prefer to believe otherwise but every morning is an act of blind faith.

Is it “blind faith” to assume for now that the spaghetti monster doesn’t exist?

Because the tag “illusion” is relative. For this reality to be an illusion there must be an “outside” or better interpretation of reality\*. In the absence of evidence of an outside or better interpretation, it makes sense to assume they don’t exist, until there’s reason to think otherwise.

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- Of course, our interpretation of reality does change somewhat; it could almost be considered the purpose of science. But for my point, I’m thinking of major shake-ups. Like “we’re in the Matrix”.

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