# Seriously, this thread is closed?

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**Created:** [October 30, 2022, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-this-thread-is-closed/974031 "2022-10-30T18:29:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2022, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-this-thread-is-closed/974031/21 "2022-10-30T19:54:14Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> But “this thread is closed until the mods can discuss it” is hardly a draconian action.

The argument against that is that was not the focus of the thread AND it did not derail the thread at all, so why close the ENTIRE thread. Why not just say, “Hey, put the talk about men and abortion on hold until further notice. I need to check the interpretation of a rule with a couple of other mods.”

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2022, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-this-thread-is-closed/974031/22 "2022-10-30T20:26:25Z")

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Do you know of a way to close part of a thread? I can’t seem to find that button in the moderator controls.

I mean, we could just hand out Warnings for all of the offending posts, I suppose, if you think that would be more fair than temporarily closing the thread to discuss options.

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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2022, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-this-thread-is-closed/974031/23 "2022-10-30T20:29:59Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Do you know of a way to close part of a thread? I can’t seem to find that button in the moderator controls.
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> I mean, we could just hand out Warnings for all of the offending posts, I suppose, if you think that would be more fair than temporarily closing the thread to discuss options.

That’s disingenuous. They gave you one option of how to do it.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2022, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-this-thread-is-closed/974031/24 "2022-10-30T20:35:33Z")

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> [@GreysonCarlisle](#):
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> That’s disingenuous. They gave you one option of how to do it.

In fact, an option that is quite often used.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2022, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-this-thread-is-closed/974031/25 "2022-10-30T20:39:25Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Do you know of a way to close part of a thread?

Yes I do. Tell the posters to not discuss the topic under penalty of being modded.

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**Author:** ![ctnguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@ctnguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ctnguy)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2022, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-this-thread-is-closed/974031/26 "2022-10-30T20:51:56Z")

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As a moderator you are surely familar with the practice of posting a modnote telling participants in a thread to drop a particular topic of discussion, without closing the whole thread? As you did [here, for example](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-way-to-find-out-which-books-have-been-banned-in-my-community/972256/18).

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2022, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-this-thread-is-closed/974031/27 "2022-10-30T21:02:30Z")

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> [@UltraVires](#):
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> Because I don’t think it violates the rule. The rule was intended, AFAIK, to stop whining and bitching about how men are somehow now an underclass in society.

I completely agree. I see nothing in that thread that violates either the intent, the letter, or the spirit of that rule.

It seems to me the rule is in the same category of broad prohibition as “scientific racism”, encouraging discrimination against minorities, etc. As a rule that prohibits the advocacy of male genetic superiority or that “men are somehow naturally entitled to be in charge”, the rule makes sense, but it’s hard to see how it applies to this thread.

> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> But “this thread is closed until the mods can discuss it” is hardly a draconian action … But please cut WE? a break for pausing discussion for a day.

True, it’s not a draconian action, and kudos to **What\_Exit** for at least acknowledging some reservations about the action, but that isn’t the point. The point that is being made here is that, as noted above, there were no grounds for taking any action at all.

> [@Chronos](#):
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> Do you know of a way to close part of a thread?

A mod note. Although in my view even a mod note wouldn’t be needed here.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2022, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-this-thread-is-closed/974031/28 "2022-10-30T21:50:01Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Do you know of a way to close part of a thread?

I do.

Subscribe to my channel for more helpful information.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2022, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-this-thread-is-closed/974031/29 "2022-10-30T22:41:17Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> The argument against that is that was not the focus of the thread AND it did not derail the thread at all, so why close the ENTIRE thread.

I am not sure how you can say that. The topic was supposed to be about codifying marriage rights. Halfway down, it became about abortion rights. The original subject was entirely subsumed and lost. There was not even a hint of discussion about it. Typically, mods would excise and move the abortion rights posts, as was done repeatedly in the Russia-Ukraine thread, and restore the original thread to a relatively coherent state.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2022, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-this-thread-is-closed/974031/30 "2022-10-30T22:47:34Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> I am not sure how you can say that. The topic was supposed to be about codifying marriage rights.

I talked to the OP and it was about both marriage and reproductive (conception and abortion) rights.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2022, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-this-thread-is-closed/974031/31 "2022-10-30T23:04:34Z")

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I have to say that I personally don’t think the topic is problematic and I expect it will get reopened with a mod note setting some guidelines to make sure the topic doesn’t veer into rule-breaking territory.

I do think that this was an abundance of caution but I don’t think it’s an egregious one. Just see what happens after the mod discussion.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2022, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-this-thread-is-closed/974031/32 "2022-10-30T23:09:13Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> I do think that this was an abundance of caution but I don’t think it’s an egregious one.

Agreed. And in that vein I should add that my reason for making my somewhat lengthy earlier post here was not to be critical, but rather in the hope that, along with all the other arguments here, it would sway the decision in the right direction. There was no reason for that thread to be closed.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2022, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-this-thread-is-closed/974031/33 "2022-10-30T23:29:09Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> There was no reason for that thread to be closed.

Kind of interesting that the only three people that support it being closed are mods. Us common folk seem in agreement that it wasn’t even mod note-worthy.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2022, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-this-thread-is-closed/974031/34 "2022-10-31T00:42:23Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> But “this thread is closed until the mods can discuss it” is hardly a draconian action.

Yeah, I don’t see the big deal here.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2022, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-this-thread-is-closed/974031/35 "2022-10-31T01:44:13Z")

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> [@UltraVires](#):
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> What happened to the board where you could talk about anything?

There are still places like that on the internet, though some of them have trouble finding and keeping web hosting services.

They are not us.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2022, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-this-thread-is-closed/974031/36 "2022-10-31T01:47:23Z")

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Yeah, it’s only recently we could talk much about the Mary Jane.

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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2022, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-this-thread-is-closed/974031/37 "2022-10-31T01:51:54Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> Kind of interesting that the only three people that support it being closed are mods. Us common folk seem in agreement that it wasn’t even mod note-worthy.

Seems to be a lot of that bullshit going around lately.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2022, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-this-thread-is-closed/974031/38 "2022-10-31T01:56:30Z")

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I tend to be of the opinion of “dude, slow your roll, give 'em a minute to think about it, then bitch.” I can wait a day, though I do agree the moderation may have been leaning a bit on the overly strict side lately.

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**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2022, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-this-thread-is-closed/974031/39 "2022-10-31T07:49:13Z")

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> [@GreysonCarlisle](#):
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> Seems to be a lot of that bullshit going around lately.

Yes, there is. Too much.

> [@pulykamell](#):
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> though I do agree the moderation may have been leaning a bit on the overly strict side lately.

Especially on the tiniest bit of thread drift that certain mods don’t like. We’ve been told over the years that a certain amount of thread drift is expected, but recently three mods are jumping on it when it’s not a problem.

> [@Chronos](#):
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> Do you know of a way to close part of a thread? I can’t seem to find that button in the moderator controls.

Really, absolutely nobody asked anyone to close part of a thread. Pretty much every poster here thinks it shouldn’t been closed at all. It’s like you didn’t even read this thread before you responded. Thanks for the condescending tone too. It always makes a thread run smoother when a mod treats posters like idiots.

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**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2022, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-this-thread-is-closed/974031/40 "2022-10-31T08:06:04Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> I am not sure how you can say that. The topic was supposed to be about codifying marriage rights. Halfway down, it became about abortion rights.

What do you mean? It is in the title about “reproductive” rights and the second point, the last sentence of the proposition is that everyone has a right to abortion. It’s plain as day.

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