# Seriously, twickster? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [February 17, 2011, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-twickster/571711 "2011-02-17T16:23:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2011, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-twickster/571711/121 "2011-02-24T23:07:10Z")
> [@MsWhatsit](#): > > “What the fuck is wrong with you?” = “There is something fucking wrong with you.” To me, that sounds like an insult. Although I do realize that interpreting what is and is not an insult is somewhat subjective. No, “There is something fucking wrong with you” = “There is something fucking wrong with you”. > [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > “There is something very wrong with you.” While I certainly see where that comes from (and how “fucking wrong” even moreso), it just doesn’t reach the status of something I need to get worked up about, especially the question form, since it’s not making any declarative statement whatsoever. If people want to get all foamy because twickster told someone there’s something fucking wrong with them, fine. But getting into a knifefight over something she didn’t say but coulda sorta mighta said? Those people need to go take a nap. ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2011, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-twickster/571711/122 "2011-02-24T23:11:54Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > While I certainly see where that comes from (and how “fucking wrong” even moreso), it just doesn’t reach the status of something I need to get worked up about, especially the question form, since it’s not making any declarative statement whatsoever. If people want to get all foamy because twickster told someone there’s something fucking wrong with them, fine. But getting into a knifefight over something she didn’t say but coulda sorta mighta said? Those people need to go take a nap. I’m glad you can see where it comes from. Like I said earlier: > [@MsWhatsit](#): > > The question of whether anyone should be offended by it is different from the question of whether it’s an insult. The point isn’t, “ooh, **twickster** hurt my feelings,” the point is that **twickster** broke a mod rule (again) and apologized for it (again) and maybe it would be nice if she could either start following the rules or stop being a mod. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2011, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-twickster/571711/123 "2011-02-24T23:25:08Z")
> [@MsWhatsit](#): > > I’m glad you can see where it comes from. Like I said earlier: I said I could see where SFG was coming from - not that I agreed it was an insult. > [@](#): > > The point isn’t, “ooh, **twickster** hurt my feelings,” the point is that **twickster** broke a mod rule (again) and apologized for it (again) and maybe it would be nice if she could either start following the rules or stop being a mod. The only thing twickster is guilty of (this time) is being abrasive. Being abrasive isn’t against the rules. ---
**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2011, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-twickster/571711/124 "2011-02-24T23:57:47Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > I’d think to myself “RaftPeople is being a little testy and snarky”. That’s not against the rules and there’s still no insult. You can be offended by it all you like - or you could just grow some thicker skin/unbunch the panties/desandify your vag and move on. Getting worked up over warmed-over snark isn’t worth it. Demanding a change of guard over warmed-over snark is butthurtness to the Nth degree. You are confusing 2 independent issues. Let me spell it out for you: 1. There is the issue of whether that statement is an insult 2. There is the issue of to what degree someone on the receiving end should feel slighted My post was regarding issue #1, not issue #2. Because you have no idea what my opinion is regarding issue #2, I think your clearly emotional response to my post indicates you have a desire to control other posters opinions to such a degree that you didn’t stop to think about whether I hold that opinion or not. Psycho-anlaysis free of charge 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2011, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-twickster/571711/125 "2011-02-25T00:22:18Z")
> [@](#): > > Because you have no idea what my opinion is regarding issue #2, I think your clearly emotional response to my post indicates you have a desire to control other posters opinions to such a degree that you didn’t stop to think about whether I hold that opinion or not. Psycho-anlaysis free of charge Sorry - I was using the generic “you”, not you specifically. Wasn’t trying to make any assumptions. ---
**Author:** ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2011, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-twickster/571711/126 "2011-02-25T01:29:27Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > IME it works best when current mods and staff nominate moderators out of the current pool of posters. Letting people nominate themselves seems like a great way to get people who just like waving around the big stick. That’s how we’ve been doing it for some time. I actually recruited **twickster** , and had to ask her more than once. If someone asks for an application we we’ll give it to them, and consider it. But we definitely take into account the possibility that they want it too much, or want it for the wrong reasons. I’m probably one of the exceptions to the rule, too. I asked for an application, more than once. And I had to talk **Ed** into letting me in. Given the comments in this thread, I clearly hornswaggled him: I’ve definitely apologized for more mistakes than \*\*twickster \*\*has, and I’ve made many more for which I haven’t apologized. I guess it’s a good thing [I’m not a surgeon or a cop or an astronaut or something](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11547210&postcount=21). :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Rushgeekgirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rushgeekgirl/32/3715_2.png) [@Rushgeekgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rushgeekgirl)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2011, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-twickster/571711/127 "2011-02-25T01:54:10Z")
I’ve never seen such overreaction in the ten years I’ve posted on this board. Geez it’s a mod, not a god. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2011, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-twickster/571711/128 "2011-02-25T05:32:41Z")
> [@Gfactor](#): > > That’s how we’ve been doing it for some time. I think most of the moderators that have come on board since I’ve been doing it were nominated by the previous mods, rather than chosen from existing applicants. (And I only applied after being nominated. If I ever find out who did it…;)) ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2011, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-twickster/571711/129 "2011-02-25T05:47:14Z")
My dear **SFG** , my dear friend Don’t you _know_ that I would forgive you _anything_ over and over and over “until the rivers all run dry”? Please disagree with me all you want (you are my friend, after all, right?)! But I have to find ways to have no anymosity (Spelling) towards _anyone_, right now. I might not always agree with the Mods/Admins, but they are the reason there’s a Dope and a reason for me to come here and talk. I truly hope y’all get this resolved. Okay, please? Thanks Q ---
**Author:** ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2011, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-twickster/571711/130 "2011-02-25T11:24:01Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > I think most of the moderators that have come on board since I’ve been doing it were nominated by the previous mods, rather than chosen from existing applicants. (And I only applied after being nominated. If I ever find out who did it…;)) Mom always liked you best. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2011, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-twickster/571711/131 "2011-02-25T15:34:24Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > While I certainly see where that comes from (and how “fucking wrong” even moreso), it just doesn’t reach the status of something I need to get worked up about, especially the question form, since it’s not making any declarative statement whatsoever. Have you stopped raping children yet? Hey, I’m not \*saying \*you’re a baby raper! I’m just asking a _question_. > [@](#): > > If people want to get all foamy because twickster told someone there’s something fucking wrong with them, fine. But getting into a knifefight over something she didn’t say but coulda sorta mighta said? Those people need to go take a nap. Like \*\*MsWhatsit \*\*and \*\*RaftPeople \*\*have so eloquently stated, this isn’t about \*\*twickster \*\*hurting someone’s feelings. This is about \*\*twickster \*\*being insulting. All insults are against the rules outside of the pit. Even mild ones. Even stupid ones. \*All \*of them. > [@Gfactor](#): > > Given the comments in this thread, I clearly hornswaggled him: I’ve definitely apologized for more mistakes than \*\*twickster \*\*has, and I’ve made many more for which I haven’t apologized. Actually, since I’ve been here, you’ve been the most consistently professional moderator IMO. Any time I’ve seen you make a mistake, you don’t try to wiggle out of it, you don’t make backhanded apologies, and you don’t keep breaking the same rules in the same ways over and over. > [@Quasimodem](#): > > But I have to find ways to have no anymosity (Spelling) towards _anyone_, right now. > > I might not always agree with the Mods/Admins, but they are the reason there’s a Dope and a reason for me to come here and talk. I don’t have animosity toward anyone, either, except insofar as their inability to adhere to the rules of their job is making this a worse place to post. When the mods can break the rules repeatedly and consistently with no visible consequences, or even a public acknowledgement from their higher-ups that something was wrong, that makes me not want to come here. And I know a lot of other people feel the same way. \*\*twickster \*\*strikes me as a smart woman. IIRC she also is (or has been) a creator and editor of crossword puzzles. Both of those things should mean that she should have no trouble remembering, enforcing, and adhering to the rules of this board, since they really are quite simple. That she has a pattern of breaking the rules, getting called on it by normal members, making a backhanded apology, and then doing it all over again, says to me that she is not making an honest effort to live up to the role that she has been given. If she were actually trying, she would have stopped this a long time ago. When one of us breaks the rules, we get a warning or a note to let us know we’re out of line. When \*\*twickster \*\*breaks the rules, we see… silence. And silence inherently implies that \*\*Ed \*\*et al. condone her activities, that no matter how far over the line she crosses how many times, she will never be removed. ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2011, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-twickster/571711/132 "2011-02-25T16:04:57Z")
> [@Gfactor](#): > > I asked for an application, more than once. And I had to talk **Ed** into letting me in. Given the comments in this thread, I clearly hornswaggled him: I’ve definitely apologized for more mistakes than \*\*twickster \*\*has, and I’ve made many more for which I haven’t apologized. I don’t keep score but off the top of my head I’d say this is wrong. I consider you to be one of the better ‘active’ mods. No way **twix** is in your league. To be clear, I don’t dislike her at all. But she misuses her power, she is not a good example to the board and is not a good mod. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2011, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-twickster/571711/133 "2011-02-25T17:29:52Z")
> [@Gfactor](#): > > Given the comments in this thread, I clearly hornswaggled him: Bullshit, **G**. As I have posted before, you are the best mod/admin this board has had during the time I’ve been here. For that matter, you are a better mod here than I was elsewhere. You are unfailingly professional in your moderating, and do not appear to have a temper. ---
**Author:** ![Rico](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rico/32/3582_2.png) [@Rico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rico)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2011, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-twickster/571711/134 "2011-02-25T18:43:24Z")
> [@Rushgeekgirl](#): > > Geez it’s a mod, not a god. Tubadiva! There’s a mispelled word on this application form! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2011, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-twickster/571711/135 "2011-02-25T23:33:50Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Bullshit, **G**. As I have posted before, you are the best mod/admin this board has had during the time I’ve been here. For that matter, you are a better mod here than I was elsewhere. You are unfailingly professional in your moderating, and do not appear to have a temper. I was just going to post “You fucking liar, **G**.” but I thought I’d get into trouble for that.\*\* G\*\*. is easily the best mod going, and I say this as someone he has just a ugly run-in with, and about which I thought (and think) he acted like a prime wanker in dealing with me, but overall he knows what he’s doing, and he defends his actions like a reasonable person would almost all the time, which is the comparison people are drawing between his modding and **Twickster** ’s. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-twickster/571711/136 "2011-02-28T17:13:15Z")
> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#): > > I was just going to post “You fucking liar, **G**.” but I thought I’d get into trouble for that. I believe correct, mod-acceptable response is, “You’re such an ignorant person, **G** : what the fuck is wrong with you? I suggest you quit talking out of your ass.” ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-twickster/571711/137 "2011-02-28T17:25:45Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > I believe correct, mod-acceptable response is, “You’re such an ignorant person, **G** : what the fuck is wrong with you? I suggest you quit talking out of your ass.” No, U r such an ignorant person, **SFG** ; WTF is wrong with u? I suggest u quit talking out ur ass. Did I do that right?😃 ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-twickster/571711/138 "2011-02-28T17:50:45Z")
According to this and other threads in ATMB, you’re 100% in the lines! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-twickster/571711.md?page=6)