# Seriously, you guys should just ban people before you apply stupid restrictions to them.

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**Created:** [December 27, 2015, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-you-guys-should-just-ban-people-before-you-apply-stupid-restrictions-to-them/741457 "2015-12-27T13:42:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![Foggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foggy/32/1082_2.png) [@Foggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Foggy)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2015, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-you-guys-should-just-ban-people-before-you-apply-stupid-restrictions-to-them/741457/21 "2015-12-28T01:24:10Z")

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> [@engineer\_comp\_geek](#):
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> Best solutions for female moustaches?  
> [Best solutions for female moustaches? - Factual Questions - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=779168)

Thanks …I think;)

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**Author:** ![fisha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@fisha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fisha)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2015, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-you-guys-should-just-ban-people-before-you-apply-stupid-restrictions-to-them/741457/22 "2015-12-28T02:03:34Z")

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Box!Box!Box!

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2015, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-you-guys-should-just-ban-people-before-you-apply-stupid-restrictions-to-them/741457/23 "2015-12-28T02:05:51Z")

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> [@fisha](#):
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> Box!Box!Box!

“Fish, and plankton, and sea greens, and protein from the sea.”

😃

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**Author:** ![fisha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@fisha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fisha)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2015, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-you-guys-should-just-ban-people-before-you-apply-stupid-restrictions-to-them/741457/24 "2015-12-28T02:18:26Z")

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Overwhelming, am I not?

Seriously though, throw the miscreants in their own forum (box) that noone else has to see or visit, unless they want to poke them with a stick. Said miscreants can only post to that forum. Some genius came up the idea, I can’t take credit for it.

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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2015, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-you-guys-should-just-ban-people-before-you-apply-stupid-restrictions-to-them/741457/25 "2015-12-28T02:29:11Z")

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Since, due to circumstances entirely within his control, the OP cannot pose questions about any matter concerning his wife he must just wait patiently for someone else to coincidentally want the answer to the exact same question. How likely is it that his question will conveniently pop up?

However if he were to post:

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> **Best solutions for female moustaches?**  
> Jennifer Lawrence thinks that trying to get rid of it would make it come back worse. I think shaving would do that but not waxing or plucking.

Would that work?

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2015, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-you-guys-should-just-ban-people-before-you-apply-stupid-restrictions-to-them/741457/26 "2015-12-28T02:39:04Z")

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I have no problem with topic bans in general, but I never particularly liked the one on **JohnClay**. From my perspective, it looked like a significant part or even majority of the problem came from other Dopers freaking out because he said atypical things. Everyone was yelling at him because they found something he said to be offensive, so he’d come in and defend himself–albeit extremely poorly.

Sure, the topic ban fixed the problem. But it always seemed to me like the punishment was unfairly sat entirely on his shoulders, and not anyone else who was egging him on. I’ve never been quite clear why he was topic banned but people like **Chief Pedant** never have been (AFAIK).

On the other hand, I fully approve of **DrDeth** ’s topic ban. That was all him. The ban itself is rather narrow, and only came after he kept breaking rules. And I’m pretty sure I’d remember any others that I objected to.

Yeah, I know. The majority of you don’t care what I think. But this was on my mind since I saw the Warning, and this is the only appropriate place to share.

And, yes, I know the mods probably saw more than I did.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2015, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-you-guys-should-just-ban-people-before-you-apply-stupid-restrictions-to-them/741457/27 "2015-12-28T02:55:34Z")

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Can we get a lecture ban for BigT? 😛

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2015, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-you-guys-should-just-ban-people-before-you-apply-stupid-restrictions-to-them/741457/28 "2015-12-28T03:46:41Z")

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> [@Emiliana](#):
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> I don’t suppose the mods are open to _suggestions_ as to poster-specific topic bans?

Hmm, I can think of a \*suggestion \*or two I might make…

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**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2015, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-you-guys-should-just-ban-people-before-you-apply-stupid-restrictions-to-them/741457/29 "2015-12-28T10:19:56Z")

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Most of the topic bans I’ve seen over the years seem to have worked out pretty well. No need to euthanize the patient when surgery has a good chance of success.

For example, a particular patient has been alive and well and contributing to the board since he had his Verhoeven removed 5 years ago. How would it have been better to ban him outright?

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2015, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-you-guys-should-just-ban-people-before-you-apply-stupid-restrictions-to-them/741457/30 "2015-12-28T12:45:10Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Yeah, I know. The majority of you don’t care what I think.

Since when is 47% a majority?:dubious:

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2015, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-you-guys-should-just-ban-people-before-you-apply-stupid-restrictions-to-them/741457/31 "2015-12-28T15:59:16Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> And I’m pretty sure I’d remember any others that I objected to.

Good Ol’ BigT, keeping tabs on all of us. It’s good to know you’re there keeping tabs on us BigT.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2015, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-you-guys-should-just-ban-people-before-you-apply-stupid-restrictions-to-them/741457/32 "2015-12-28T17:02:47Z")

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We want \*\*BigT \*\*on that wall. We NEED \*\*BigT \*\*on that wall.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2015, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-you-guys-should-just-ban-people-before-you-apply-stupid-restrictions-to-them/741457/33 "2015-12-28T18:11:38Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> Can we get a lecture ban for BigT? 😛

> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> Good Ol’ BigT, keeping tabs on all of us. It’s good to know you’re there keeping tabs on us BigT.

> [@GrandWino](#):
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> We want \*\*BigT \*\*on that wall. We NEED \*\*BigT \*\*on that wall.

**Moderator Note**

The purpose of ATMB is for discussing board issues, not for sniping at other posters. No warnings issued, but keep personal remarks out of this.

Colibri

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**Author:** ![callander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ed655f/32.png) [@callander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/callander)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-you-guys-should-just-ban-people-before-you-apply-stupid-restrictions-to-them/741457/34 "2015-12-29T06:43:31Z")

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I understand no warning was given as stated above. I actually appreciate the mods action or at least the heads up that this gentlemen does some odd things and might be best left to his toys instead of the SD, being very genuine.  
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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-you-guys-should-just-ban-people-before-you-apply-stupid-restrictions-to-them/741457/35 "2015-12-29T19:13:18Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> On the other hand, I fully approve of **DrDeth** ’s topic ban. That was all him. The ban itself is rather narrow, and only came after he kept breaking rules. .

I never broke a single rule, or even got a warning.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-you-guys-should-just-ban-people-before-you-apply-stupid-restrictions-to-them/741457/36 "2015-12-29T19:43:32Z")

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Enough. This thread isn’t the place to revisit that.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-you-guys-should-just-ban-people-before-you-apply-stupid-restrictions-to-them/741457/37 "2015-12-29T19:49:44Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> Enough. This thread isn’t the place to revisit that.

Oh come on now. Where is the place? Look, posters have\* flat out lied \*in other threads, threads where I can’t respond. This is a thread where I can respond, since it’s off that topic. And in fact, my response is on topic since this thread _is abou_t such silly-assed restrictions.

Yes, I know, some posters hit their “report this post” button like those rats on the anti-smoking PSA jonesing for more nicotine. But that’s your problem.

He posted a flat out lie. \*\*At no time did I ever break a rule. At no time was I warned. At no time have I ever posted a spoiler in any spoiler-free threads- about anything. \*\*

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**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seriously-you-guys-should-just-ban-people-before-you-apply-stupid-restrictions-to-them/741457/38 "2015-12-29T20:49:47Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Oh come on now. Where is the place?

This thread isn’t about you. So this thread isn’t the place.

You were given instructions by a moderator. You failed to follow them. That is why the topic ban was put into place.

You failed just now in this thread to follow moderator instructions. This is exactly the same sort of thing that got you topic banned. Possible punishments for failing to follow a moderator’s instruction range from absolutely nothing to a mod note to a suspension to a complete banning.

We are not required to warn you first.

I am going to be nice and do nothing.

But your attempted hijack of this thread has pretty much thrown it off the rails, so I will close it.

I shouldn’t have to emphasize this, but… **when you are given instructions by a moderator, follow them.**

And again, for emphasis, **we are not required to warn you before taking action.**

Thread closed.

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