# Session lies again **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 24, 2017, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/session-lies-again/787379 "2017-05-24T23:17:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/session-lies-again/787379/81 "2017-05-26T22:07:28Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > What would you do if I weren’t here to help you virtue signal your way to salvation? At least you’re good for _something._ ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/session-lies-again/787379/82 "2017-05-26T22:10:30Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > What would you do if I weren’t here to help you virtue signal your way to salvation? I would spend less time teasing neoconfederate libertarians and more time trying to secure single payer healthcare for gay handicapped refugees. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/session-lies-again/787379/83 "2017-05-26T23:09:24Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > I would spend less time teasing neoconfederate libertarians and more time trying to secure single payer healthcare for gay handicapped refugees. So you would be seeking salvation through the state. How original. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/session-lies-again/787379/84 "2017-05-26T23:20:29Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > What would you do if I weren’t here to help you virtue signal your way to salvation? Awww, wee Willy Farnaby has learned another term, and he’s trying it out like a big boy. It’s adorable! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/session-lies-again/787379/85 "2017-05-26T23:31:00Z")
> **[The Paternalists' Bible](https://reason.com/2012/06/08/the-paternalists-bible/)** > > The Other America, which helped create modern welfare, turns 50. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2017, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/session-lies-again/787379/86 "2017-05-27T00:05:39Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > What would you do if I weren’t here to help you virtue signal your way to salvation? Don’t stop now! I’m only 2 slots away from raising my hand and winning racist thread bingo… ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2017, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/session-lies-again/787379/87 "2017-05-27T00:40:39Z")
> [@Count\_Blucher](#): > > Don’t stop now! > > I’m only 2 slots away from raising my hand and winning racist thread bingo… Oh, you’re just another SJW… ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2017, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/session-lies-again/787379/88 "2017-05-27T01:42:42Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > Oh, you’re just another SJW… Oh, you’re just another Burke. ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2017, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/session-lies-again/787379/89 "2017-05-27T12:43:47Z")
> [@begbert2](#): > > Pretty sure he wasn’t being serious. . Then you do not know our childishly minded Farnaby. He is entirely serious in his childish ideology. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2017, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/session-lies-again/787379/90 "2017-05-27T12:58:57Z")
And the genius of him is that he and I are assentially saying the same thing - don’t get too hung up on forms - and yet he’s probably most angry at me for the main reason that I work in Washington, DC. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2017, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/session-lies-again/787379/91 "2017-05-27T13:07:12Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > Oh, you’re just another SJW… Not a fan of the term. White elitist puritanical progressive is more accurate. That creature of the Lilly-white middle class who is against pleasure of any kind and shames those who do not work towards the aggrandizement of the state. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2017, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/session-lies-again/787379/92 "2017-05-27T13:11:19Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > And the genius of him is that he and I are assentially saying the same thing - don’t get too hung up on forms - and yet he’s probably most angry at me for the main reason that I work in Washington, DC. No it’s the constant labeling of me and my positions as racist. Supporting secession as a principle and being against war as a principle are not racist. Neither is describing a fictional biracial woman. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2017, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/session-lies-again/787379/93 "2017-05-27T13:22:28Z")
Don’t you have some land somewhere that needs tending, Mr. Freeman? ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2017, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/session-lies-again/787379/94 "2017-05-27T14:54:17Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > I’m assuming that the DOJ statement saying that the FBI investigator told him to fill out the form in a certain way is accurate. Why do you keep asking me to produce more evidence for a claim that I’ve said several times that I’m taking at face value? Because you have no reason to take it at face value. The DOJ is just Sessions himself making a statement, as Sessions is in charge of it. Of course he’s going to give an excuse. You admit that Sessions is a known liar, so you have no reason to take him at his word. So you need to provide some other reason why you are assuming he’s telling the truth. It’s another Russia thing. It would be oddly coincidental if the FBI just happened to tell him not to disclose something that would cause the problems we have. Now, if the FBI said it, then I could see taking it at face value. ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2017, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/session-lies-again/787379/95 "2017-05-27T18:44:44Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > White elitist puritanical progressive is more accurate. That creature of the Lilly-white middle class who is against pleasure of any kind and shames those who do not work towards the aggrandizement of the state. Your reference to “puritanical progressive” leads me to believe you’re into neo-reaction, but I think one of us is confused. My understanding of Moldbug’s view is that the progressive movement’s relationship to the Puritans was cladistic in nature, as a historical lineage, but it’s undergone a complete transformation, like a land mammal turning into a whale. The left does have some scolds against fun (banning e-cigs, video games, certain foods and drinks), but in the whole it’s anti-Puritan and rejects the spiritual, wants to tear down traditional institutions, and worships materialism, consumerism, and hedonism. When I read NRx stuff the focus on this or that sect of Christianity strikes me as odd, since Christianity itself is a great vehicle for left memes, not to mention the various contributions from Jewish intellectuals. Lots of Catholic countries embraced socialism, too. > [@WillFarnaby](#): > > What would you do if I weren’t here to help you virtue signal your way to salvation? Complaining about virtue signaling is also virtue signaling. ---
**Author:** ![Lucky\_Mike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Lucky\_Mike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucky_Mike)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2017, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/session-lies-again/787379/96 "2017-05-27T22:00:48Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > [CNN reports](http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/24/politics/jeff-sessions-russian-officials-meetings/index.html) that Jeff Sessions didn’t report his contacts with the [del]Soviet[/del] Russian Ambassador in his application for security clearance. There was no wiggle room like his lies in the Senate confirmation hearing, it didn’t ask about contacts related to the Trump campaign, he was required to disclose any contacts he or his family had with foreign governments or their representatives. > > He’s the freakin’ Attorney General of the United States and he’s a lying bag of shit of the highest order. Ok, maybe second highest. So far. Although I am unhappy with Trump, I assume when you refer to the state of Virginia, you cross it out and call it the confederacy. The fact that people are drudging up the cold war for this partisan game is disgusting and ignorant. Collusion with the Russians is bad enough. Working against the interests of the US is bad enough. We do not need to bring up past things to make it worse. It is like calling Germans, Nazis if you were in the 1970’s and that, I believe, you would find despicable and wrong. Er, I hope. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2017, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/session-lies-again/787379/97 "2017-05-27T22:15:25Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > No it’s the constant labeling of me and my positions as racist. Supporting secession as a principle and being against war as a principle are not racist. Neither is describing a fictional biracial woman. You like big butts and you cannot lie … ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2017, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/session-lies-again/787379/98 "2017-05-27T22:55:09Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > You admit that Sessions is a known liar, so you have no reason to take him at his word. Let me lay you down a challenge. Win and I concede this debate entirely, lose and you admit you are a liar. The challenge is: cite where I said Sessions is a liar. Not that he didn’t mislead, not that he said wrong things. You said I admitted that he was a liar, so find the sentence where I said Sessions is a liar. Do you accept the challenge? ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2017, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/session-lies-again/787379/99 "2017-05-28T19:16:47Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > So you would be seeking salvation through the state. How original. Oh yeah, let people die that could have been helped. That’s some real good salvation there. But some salvation for the billionaires in the form of tax cuts stolen from the health care system is good. RIGHT? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/session-lies-again/787379.md?page=4)