# Settle a ballet argument.

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/settle-a-ballet-argument/418313
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [September 6, 2007, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/settle-a-ballet-argument/418313 "2007-09-06T23:59:53Z")
**Posts on this page:** 16
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### Author: ![BarnOwl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e95f7d/32.png) [@BarnOwl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BarnOwl)
#### Post date: [September 6, 2007, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/settle-a-ballet-argument/418313/1 "2007-09-06T23:59:53Z")

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I argue…

that in Act III, Odile gets Prince Siegfried so hot to trot that when their dances conclude, he takes her to some secluded place in the castle where they make mad passionate love.

My wife says only that I have no basis for this argument (the inference being that I’m giving this my own horny interpretation).

So, balletomanes, please tell us who’s right.

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### Author: ![missbunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/76d3ee/32.png) [@missbunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missbunny)
#### Post date: [September 7, 2007, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/settle-a-ballet-argument/418313/2 "2007-09-07T00:42:26Z")

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I agree with you. I have nothing to base this on except my opinion though.

What does your wife think they are doing back there all alone? Playing crazy eights?

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### Author: ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)
#### Post date: [September 7, 2007, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/settle-a-ballet-argument/418313/3 "2007-09-07T00:51:12Z")

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I agree, unless they’re too exhausted from all that dancing. But hey, dancers have lots of stamina.

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### Author: ![BarnOwl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e95f7d/32.png) [@BarnOwl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BarnOwl)
#### Post date: [September 7, 2007, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/settle-a-ballet-argument/418313/4 "2007-09-07T02:39:17Z")

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[QUOTE=missbunny]  
I agree with you. I have nothing to base this on except my opinion though.

What does your wife think they are doing back there all alone? Playing crazy eights?  
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Thank you, **missbunny**.

Are you the Ballet Lady who would have answered my other ballet question some months ago, if I had the courage to ask?

And, **panache** , I must say that it has to be true that great minds think alike. We’re all in accord - except, of course, for Mrs **BarnOwl**.

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### Author: ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [September 7, 2007, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/settle-a-ballet-argument/418313/5 "2007-09-07T02:46:32Z")

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Fixed title (changed “arument” to “argument”).

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### Author: ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)
#### Post date: [September 7, 2007, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/settle-a-ballet-argument/418313/6 "2007-09-07T14:59:48Z")

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There are ballet arguments?

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### Author: ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)
#### Post date: [September 7, 2007, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/settle-a-ballet-argument/418313/7 "2007-09-07T15:01:25Z")

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Of course they are doing the nasty. Dance is hot. Dancing with another person is hot. Dancing with a hot person is hot. Dancing with a hot person _who can dance really well_ is un-fucking-believable.

I never dance ballet, but I danced plenty. Many’s the time…er, I’ll leave that thought on the table.

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### Author: ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)
#### Post date: [September 7, 2007, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/settle-a-ballet-argument/418313/8 "2007-09-07T15:32:57Z")

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Have you considered the prospect that they are doing the nasty ON STAGE. (in ballet form)

[QUOTE=Anaamika]

I never dance ballet, but I danced plenty. Many’s the time…er, I’ll leave that thought on the table.  
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Oh, to be a table…

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### Author: ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)
#### Post date: [September 7, 2007, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/settle-a-ballet-argument/418313/9 "2007-09-07T16:10:30Z")

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[QUOTE=Cervaise]  
There are ballet arguments?  
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Happens all the time. Usually goes like this:

Wife: I bought tickets to the ballet!  
Me: For the love of God, WHY?!  
Wife: I really want to go!  
Me: OK if it means that much to you. How much were they?  
Wife: Fifty Gazzillion Dollars…  
Me: :eek: \<faint\>

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### Author: ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)
#### Post date: [September 7, 2007, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/settle-a-ballet-argument/418313/10 "2007-09-07T16:19:47Z")

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[QUOTE=BarnOwl]  
I argue…

that in Act III, Odile gets Prince Siegfried so hot to trot that when their dances conclude, he takes her to some secluded place in the castle where they make mad passionate love.  
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No way. Sex wasn’t invented until the 1960s. They were playing whist.

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### Author: ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)
#### Post date: [September 7, 2007, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/settle-a-ballet-argument/418313/11 "2007-09-07T17:24:38Z")

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[QUOTE=Zebra]  
Have you considered the prospect that they are doing the nasty ON STAGE. (in ballet form)

Oh, to be a table…  
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Oh! I thought you quit flirting with me after I met you and I was sad. Nice to see you back.

> [@gigi](#):
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> No way. Sex wasn’t invented until the 1960s. They were playing whist.

\<snerk\> How were our parents born, I wonder? Spontaneous generation? Or is there a lot more to whist than I always thought!

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### Author: ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)
#### Post date: [September 7, 2007, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/settle-a-ballet-argument/418313/12 "2007-09-07T18:29:34Z")

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[QUOTE=Anaamika]  
How were our parents born, I wonder? Spontaneous generation?  
[/QUOTE]  
Pods. There was even a movie about it.

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### Author: ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)
#### Post date: [September 7, 2007, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/settle-a-ballet-argument/418313/13 "2007-09-07T18:39:29Z")

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[QUOTE=Zebra]  
Have you considered the prospect that they are doing the nasty ON STAGE. (in ballet form)

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I forgot to mention, Indian dance has a dance like this. We did write the Kam-Sutr, (Kama Sutra to you folks) after all. I’ve never done it (my mom would have killed me), but the story goes, when the Destroyer Shiva was deep in his meditative trance, the goddess and god of love/lust, Rati & Kamdev, were doing their _tandav nritya_ and disturbed him. Now this is always defined as a really passionate dance, with leaps and bounds and much looking into each other’s eyes, and we _say_ they disturbed his meditative trance while doing it, but we all know what really happened.

They were banging each other so hard he woke up, is all, and the dance is meant to represent that. 🆒

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### Author: ![lawoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/35a633/32.png) [@lawoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lawoot)
#### Post date: [September 7, 2007, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/settle-a-ballet-argument/418313/14 "2007-09-07T20:17:52Z")

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[QUOTE=Anaamika]  
\<snerk\> How were our parents born, I wonder? Spontaneous generation? Or is there a lot more to whist than I always thought!  
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You have to get at least four tricks in trump, I believe…

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### Author: ![bathsheba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@bathsheba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bathsheba)
#### Post date: [September 7, 2007, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/settle-a-ballet-argument/418313/15 "2007-09-07T23:23:19Z")

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Is there enough time for them to have a quickie before Prince Siegfried sees Odette?

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### Author: ![BarnOwl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e95f7d/32.png) [@BarnOwl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BarnOwl)
#### Post date: [September 7, 2007, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/settle-a-ballet-argument/418313/16 "2007-09-07T23:46:01Z")

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Don’t they come back and he sees her then?

Isn’t that why he’s mortified?
