# Seven assault convictions, yet a 'champion' in the boxing ring -- Floyd Mayweather **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [May 4, 2015, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seven-assault-convictions-yet-a-champion-in-the-boxing-ring-floyd-mayweather/719233 "2015-05-04T12:42:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2015, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seven-assault-convictions-yet-a-champion-in-the-boxing-ring-floyd-mayweather/719233/21 "2015-05-04T19:08:59Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > I didn’t pay for the fight, or even watch it. Wouldn’t it have been difficult to watch it without paying for it? I wouldn’t have paid 99 cents to watch it, much less $99 on pay-per-view. I did read a bit of the pre-fight coverage, marveling at the spectacle of various pundits wringing their hands about Mayweather’s abuse of women, the sad state of boxing, the exorbitant cost of watching two over-the-hill fighters etc. etc., while themselves reaping the benefits of hyping an event that in good conscience they should have minimized or ignored. In an oddly similar realm, I enjoyed reading the comments of a newly selected [Cleveland Browns draft choice](http://hosted2.ap.org/OHWIN/8494b6914ff248458c760d14dcaee4e5/Article_2015-05-02-FBN--Draft-Browns/id-a51be5ab85bf4535975d4f5c927e9ab0). \*"The Browns began Day 3 of the draft by taking their fourth defensive player, nabbing Northwestern safety Ibraheim Campbell, a 5-foot-10, 210-pounder who likes to hit. He started 45 games in four years for the Wildcats. “I would consider myself a physical player,” he said. “It’s a violent game, and I try to be as violent as possible in everything I do.”"\* Hopefully not quite _everything_ you do, Ibraheim. :eek::smack: ---
**Author:** ![gazpacho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6f9a4e/32.png) [@gazpacho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gazpacho)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2015, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seven-assault-convictions-yet-a-champion-in-the-boxing-ring-floyd-mayweather/719233/22 "2015-05-04T19:14:39Z")
> [@Human\_Action](#): > > For what it’s worth, [Mayweather doesn’t endorse anything.](http://au.ibtimes.com/floyd-mayweather-jrs-commercial-viability-why-undefeated-boxing-champ-has-no-brand-endorsements) But he did have Burger King in his corner for the fight. > **[Burger King Mascot in Mayweather's Entourage Reportedly Cost Company $1 Million](https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2453443-burger-king-mascot-in-mayweathers-entourage-reportedly-cost-company-1-million)** > > Although most of the reaction from Saturday night's "Fight of the Century" between Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Manny Pacquiao has centered on the actual boxing, something happened before the fight that had people talking... ---
**Author:** ![Human\_Action](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@Human\_Action](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Human_Action)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2015, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seven-assault-convictions-yet-a-champion-in-the-boxing-ring-floyd-mayweather/719233/23 "2015-05-04T19:23:45Z")
> [@gazpacho](#): > > But he did have Burger King in his corner for the fight. > [Burger King Mascot in Mayweather's Entourage Reportedly Cost Company $1 Million | News, Scores, Highlights, Stats, and Rumors | Bleacher Report](http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2453443-burger-king-mascot-in-mayweathers-entourage-reportedly-cost-company-1-million) I guess my cite was wrong then. My mistake. Good to know where Burger King stands on domestic violence. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2015, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seven-assault-convictions-yet-a-champion-in-the-boxing-ring-floyd-mayweather/719233/24 "2015-05-04T19:35:21Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Wouldn’t it have been difficult to watch it without paying for it? My son saw the fight with some of his friends. He chipped in for food and drinks, so I suppose he “paid” in some sense. > [@](#): > > I wouldn’t have paid 99 cents to watch it, much less $99 on pay-per-view. I did read a bit of the pre-fight coverage, marveling at the spectacle of various pundits wringing their hands about Mayweather’s abuse of women, the sad state of boxing, the exorbitant cost of watching two over-the-hill fighters etc. etc., while themselves reaping the benefits of hyping an event that in good conscience they should have minimized or ignored. Five years ago this would have been even more huge. Mayweather waited until Pac-Man had been worn down and knocked out by other fighters before he deigned to fight him. Mayweather won’t fight anyone with a chance to beat him, which is why he picked Pacquiao orginally - Manny started at flyweight (112 lbs.) and this was around junior middle. Pacquiao would have knocked him out easily back then. But Mayweather ran away and hid. He’d rather beat up women. Oh well - Mayweather will die of a drug overdose or be shot soon enough or rape someone like Tyson and go to prison. And good riddance. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2015, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seven-assault-convictions-yet-a-champion-in-the-boxing-ring-floyd-mayweather/719233/25 "2015-05-04T19:37:37Z")
> [@Human\_Action](#): > > I guess my cite was wrong then. My mistake. Good to know where Burger King stands on domestic violence. To put it in perspective, Pacquiao signed a deal with Nike and Nestle that will get him some $5 milion. I read somewhere that the ad space on Pacquie’s trunks, for this fight along, was over $2 million. At least it wasn’t on the soles of his feet. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![DrCube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a3d4f5/32.png) [@DrCube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrCube)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2015, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seven-assault-convictions-yet-a-champion-in-the-boxing-ring-floyd-mayweather/719233/26 "2015-05-04T19:37:53Z")
This is a mindset I’ll just never get. If the man can entertain an audience while fighting, who cares what else he does? Do you routinely interrogate your plumbers and mail carriers to ensure they don’t think or behave in ways you disapprove? If they fix pipes or deliver mail, I don’t care one whit whether they are immoral in their private life, or even that they _have_ a private life. As far as I’m concerned, my mail carrier or plumber (or any entertainers I enjoy) don’t even have private lives. They might as well be robots that turn on when I desire their services and go back into a box at the factory to recharge until next time. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2015, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seven-assault-convictions-yet-a-champion-in-the-boxing-ring-floyd-mayweather/719233/27 "2015-05-04T19:43:51Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > - Mayweather will die of a drug overdose or be shot soon enough or rape someone like Tyson and go to prison. > > Regards, > Shodan I’d pay good money to see Mayweather try to rape someone like Tyson 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2015, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seven-assault-convictions-yet-a-champion-in-the-boxing-ring-floyd-mayweather/719233/28 "2015-05-04T19:48:57Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > My son saw the fight with some of his friends. He chipped in for food and drinks, so I suppose he “paid” in some sense. > Five years ago this would have been even more huge. Mayweather waited until Pac-Man had been worn down and knocked out by other fighters before he deigned to fight him. Mayweather won’t fight anyone with a chance to beat him, which is why he picked Pacquiao orginally - Manny started at flyweight (112 lbs.) and this was around junior middle. > > Pacquiao would have knocked him out easily back then. But Mayweather ran away and hid. He’d rather beat up women. > > Oh well - Mayweather will die of a drug overdose or be shot soon enough or rape someone like Tyson and go to prison. And good riddance. > > Regards, > Shodan If Mayweather could rape someone like Tyson he wouldn’t need to be dodging Pacquiao. 😉 ETA: Crap! :smack: Ninja’d by **billfish**. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2015, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seven-assault-convictions-yet-a-champion-in-the-boxing-ring-floyd-mayweather/719233/29 "2015-05-04T20:19:37Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > In an oddly similar realm, I enjoyed reading the comments of a newly selected [Cleveland Browns draft choice](http://hosted2.ap.org/OHWIN/8494b6914ff248458c760d14dcaee4e5/Article_2015-05-02-FBN--Draft-Browns/id-a51be5ab85bf4535975d4f5c927e9ab0). > > \*"The Browns began Day 3 of the draft by taking their fourth defensive player, nabbing Northwestern safety Ibraheim Campbell, a 5-foot-10, 210-pounder who likes to hit. He started 45 games in four years for the Wildcats. > > “I would consider myself a physical player,” he said. “It’s a violent game, and I try to be as violent as possible in everything I do.”"\* > > Hopefully not quite _everything_ you do, Ibraheim. :eek::smack: I bet he’s a Chris Brown fan. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2015, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seven-assault-convictions-yet-a-champion-in-the-boxing-ring-floyd-mayweather/719233/30 "2015-05-04T21:33:06Z")
> [@DrCube](#): > > This is a mindset I’ll just never get. If the man can entertain an audience while fighting, who cares what else he does? Do you routinely interrogate your plumbers and mail carriers to ensure they don’t think or behave in ways you disapprove? You reckon? Let’s say there is a front page spread that says your plumber is a serial wife-batterer, or that your mail-man routinely steals cars or deals drugs. Are you seriously perfectly happy to continue using their services? Happy to continue lining their pockets? ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2015, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seven-assault-convictions-yet-a-champion-in-the-boxing-ring-floyd-mayweather/719233/31 "2015-05-04T21:38:42Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > You reckon? > > Let’s say there is a front page spread that says your plumber is a serial wife-batterer, or that your mail-man routinely steals cars or deals drugs. Are you seriously perfectly happy to continue using their services? Happy to continue lining their pockets? But not just that. Some guy screws up. Sure let him make a living like all us other smucks. But he’s somebody that is legally and morally questionable. I kinda draw the line at somebody like that having more money than they know what to do with, more putang than they can handle. being famous as shit, not working day in and day out for peanuts like most of us “better” people, being treated like royalty wherever they go, and to just rub salt in the wound, being considered “hero’s”. THATS the part that chaps my ass. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2015, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seven-assault-convictions-yet-a-champion-in-the-boxing-ring-floyd-mayweather/719233/32 "2015-05-04T21:47:03Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Oh well - Mayweather will die of a drug overdose or be shot soon enough or rape someone like Tyson and go to prison. And good riddance. > > Regards, > Shodan Yeah, you never see Tyson on TV anymore. ---
**Author:** ![OwnRules](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ea666f/32.png) [@OwnRules](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OwnRules)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2015, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seven-assault-convictions-yet-a-champion-in-the-boxing-ring-floyd-mayweather/719233/33 "2015-05-04T22:06:47Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Same here. I don’t like Mayweather, but I like even less the current trend that anyone committing a PC hot-button crime deserves to lose their entire career. “PC hot-button crime” = Beating-up women. Are you for real? Or missing a couple of fries… ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2015, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seven-assault-convictions-yet-a-champion-in-the-boxing-ring-floyd-mayweather/719233/34 "2015-05-04T22:13:39Z")
> [@OwnRules](#): > > “PC hot-button crime” = Beating-up women. If society intends that the punishment for beating a woman should be to be barred from the profession of your choice for life, then it should enact legislation to that effect. And if it did, they’d just have held the fight in Zaire anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2015, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seven-assault-convictions-yet-a-champion-in-the-boxing-ring-floyd-mayweather/719233/35 "2015-05-04T22:28:01Z")
> [@iLemming](#): > > What does it say about society that the literal criminal, arguable misogynist and proven recidivist woman beater could not only draw such crowds to a boxing match, but that he was permitted to continue in the sport after such a dubious societal track record? Are females really held in such low regard in today’s world? Yep, basically. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2015, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seven-assault-convictions-yet-a-champion-in-the-boxing-ring-floyd-mayweather/719233/36 "2015-05-04T22:31:43Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Yep, basically. Yeah, if he had been jailed for beating up a guy he totally would have been banned from boxing. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2015, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seven-assault-convictions-yet-a-champion-in-the-boxing-ring-floyd-mayweather/719233/37 "2015-05-04T22:35:56Z")
Probably not that, either, although being jailed for beating up his male lover might have had more impact… because of the lover being male, not being beat up. A professional boxer isn’t like the rest of us, he’s a trained fighter. A professional boxer punching someone should be treated as assault with a deadly weapon. Of course, he should be allowed to make a living but it should be made clear his behavior outside the ring is completely unacceptable. ---
**Author:** ![OwnRules](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ea666f/32.png) [@OwnRules](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OwnRules)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2015, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seven-assault-convictions-yet-a-champion-in-the-boxing-ring-floyd-mayweather/719233/38 "2015-05-04T22:38:11Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > If society intends that the punishment for beating a woman should be to be barred from the profession of your choice for life, then it should enact legislation to that effect. > > And if it did, they’d just have held the fight in Zaire anyway. Therefore you’d live happily in Zaire. Grotesque. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2015, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seven-assault-convictions-yet-a-champion-in-the-boxing-ring-floyd-mayweather/719233/39 "2015-05-04T22:49:49Z")
> [@OwnRules](#): > > Therefore you’d live happily in Zaire. > > Grotesque. I’d prefer not to, thanks, but the fact remains that you can’t effectively prohibit a boxer from boxing _worldwide_. ---
**Author:** ![OwnRules](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ea666f/32.png) [@OwnRules](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OwnRules)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2015, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seven-assault-convictions-yet-a-champion-in-the-boxing-ring-floyd-mayweather/719233/40 "2015-05-04T23:35:33Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > I’d prefer not to, thanks, but the fact remains that you can’t effectively prohibit a boxer from boxing _worldwide_. Yes or no: would you ban him in your country in accordance with _your_ morals? Or is the “moral majority” the right answer for you always? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seven-assault-convictions-yet-a-champion-in-the-boxing-ring-floyd-mayweather/719233.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seven-assault-convictions-yet-a-champion-in-the-boxing-ring-floyd-mayweather/719233.md?page=3)