# Seven underage kids killed in car crash - Grandfather dies later when he finds out **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 26, 2006, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seven-underage-kids-killed-in-car-crash-grandfather-dies-later-when-he-finds-out/341733 "2006-01-26T18:57:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2006, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seven-underage-kids-killed-in-car-crash-grandfather-dies-later-when-he-finds-out/341733/141 "2006-01-27T03:07:20Z")
> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#): > > \the reason I started this thread was not to figure out whose fault the accident was. \ The fault is placed squarely in the lap of the truck driver, as far as the facts reported show now. He is the one who didn’t stop, and that is the reason those children died in a fire. There have been no reports of a poorly maintained truck, with no brakes to date. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2006, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seven-underage-kids-killed-in-car-crash-grandfather-dies-later-when-he-finds-out/341733/142 "2006-01-27T03:10:55Z")
In order to prevent this thread from feeding upon itself any more than it already has, I will ask that a Mod lock it. I, for one, have learned much. I will strive to make my next Pit thread more focused and will clearly state my intentions so that I won’t be misunderstood. Agreed? ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2006, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seven-underage-kids-killed-in-car-crash-grandfather-dies-later-when-he-finds-out/341733/143 "2006-01-27T03:15:08Z")
> [@Blue Sky](#): > > Apparently you don’t read pit threads very closely because if you did, you’ll see that the reason I started this thread was not to figure out whose fault the accident was. And you forget to read your OP… > [@Blue Sky](#): > > I have only one question: why were these children allowed to be out on the road without an adult? What difference does that make? Fault… What? Not the kids. Not the parents. Perhaps the truck driver? In pre-post… Lock it is certainly OK with me. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2006, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seven-underage-kids-killed-in-car-crash-grandfather-dies-later-when-he-finds-out/341733/144 "2006-01-27T03:20:03Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > What difference does that make? It. Doesn’t. I was just curious. 'K? I have asked that this thread be locked. Thanks for the input. I’m only slightly scorched. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2006, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seven-underage-kids-killed-in-car-crash-grandfather-dies-later-when-he-finds-out/341733/145 "2006-01-27T03:20:05Z")
A strawman beating a dead horse. _There’s_ something you don’t see every day. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2006, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seven-underage-kids-killed-in-car-crash-grandfather-dies-later-when-he-finds-out/341733/146 "2006-01-27T03:22:40Z")
You ought to have posted this in MPSIMS or IMHO anyway, if you were asking a question rather than ranting. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2006, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seven-underage-kids-killed-in-car-crash-grandfather-dies-later-when-he-finds-out/341733/147 "2006-01-27T03:22:44Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > A strawman beating a dead horse. _There’s_ something you don’t see every day. But I did see a straw horse beat a dead man once. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2006, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seven-underage-kids-killed-in-car-crash-grandfather-dies-later-when-he-finds-out/341733/148 "2006-01-27T03:23:47Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > You ought to have posted this in MPSIMS or IMHO anyway, if you were asking a question rather than ranting. I thought of that (as I said earlier), but I figured it’d end up here anyways. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2006, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seven-underage-kids-killed-in-car-crash-grandfather-dies-later-when-he-finds-out/341733/149 "2006-01-27T03:24:44Z")
> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#): > > But I did see a straw horse beat a dead man once. Did it look [like this?](http://pictures.nicolas.delerue.org/japan/20030727_nagano/day1/dcp_5899.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2006, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seven-underage-kids-killed-in-car-crash-grandfather-dies-later-when-he-finds-out/341733/150 "2006-01-27T03:25:58Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > Did it look [like this?](http://pictures.nicolas.delerue.org/japan/20030727_nagano/day1/dcp_5899.jpg) Damn! I didn’t know there were cameras there! ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2006, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seven-underage-kids-killed-in-car-crash-grandfather-dies-later-when-he-finds-out/341733/151 "2006-01-27T04:21:36Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > Did it look [like this?](http://pictures.nicolas.delerue.org/japan/20030727_nagano/day1/dcp_5899.jpg) From the ETF Encyclopedic Library of Living Clichés! 🙂 (That would make a great MPSIMS thread… hmmm :evil smiley: ) ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2006, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seven-underage-kids-killed-in-car-crash-grandfather-dies-later-when-he-finds-out/341733/152 "2006-01-27T04:32:04Z")
Just a minor note: It is not responsible behavior to be driving without a proper driver license. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2006, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seven-underage-kids-killed-in-car-crash-grandfather-dies-later-when-he-finds-out/341733/153 "2006-01-27T04:34:31Z")
Why, does having a valid license automatically make one a better driver? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2006, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seven-underage-kids-killed-in-car-crash-grandfather-dies-later-when-he-finds-out/341733/154 "2006-01-27T04:38:52Z")
That would be what’s known as not even close to what I was talking about, Q.E.D. I pointed out, correctly, mind you, that it’s not responsible to drive illegally. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2006, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seven-underage-kids-killed-in-car-crash-grandfather-dies-later-when-he-finds-out/341733/155 "2006-01-27T04:41:22Z")
No, it’s just illegal. It’s only irresponsible to do it if you don’t know how. Which can be said for plenty of licensed drivers, as well. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2006, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seven-underage-kids-killed-in-car-crash-grandfather-dies-later-when-he-finds-out/341733/156 "2006-01-27T05:23:55Z")
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