# Sevencl, This is your pit

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 4, 2013, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113 "2013-01-04T23:45:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 7

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/121 "2013-01-08T18:12:46Z")

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> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> I should start a poll: “Would you rather have your cat declawed or your baby circumcised? You can only pick one.”

Or, “It’s Obama’s fault I did not tip my transgender wholistic healer for circumcising my baby with my cat’s claws”.

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**Author:** ![Cinnamon\_Imp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@Cinnamon\_Imp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cinnamon_Imp)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/122 "2013-01-08T19:43:36Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> I’d never even heard of Sevencl one minute ago, but just discovered he supports the guy who doesn’t tip in restaurants and blames Obama!

Oh god, now I feel obliged to semi-defend the guy/girl, aargh.

Obviously, the way s/he has stated it was to get a reaction out of a US-based message board, and yes, that was deliberate - anyone who’s spent any time around a large group of Americans knows the tipping custom, and how you’re stealing from the mouths of babies of hardworking blue collar moms&pops if you don’t.

HOWEVER, in the context of being said by a British person, what Sevencl said was reasonable and not stupid (disclaimer, disclaimer, if it had been said within the UK, to a UK audience, etc etc, blah blah blah). In the UK, the bill you are presented with is calculated to include your servers wages, so if you leave any extra for them/the cook/whoever, it’s an act of sheer generosity, not an unwritten obligation. So yeah, if you were skint as a result of taxes going up, you’d be less likely to give money away where you don’t strictly need to.

> [@septimus](#):
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> I’m amazed anyone that stupid can operate a keyboard.

S/he operates it suspiciously well too, good grammar - that rules out some of the more “playful” internet folk I know from Glasgow 😉

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/123 "2013-01-08T19:56:37Z")

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> [@Malthus](#):
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> Or, “It’s Obama’s fault I did not tip my transgender wholistic healer for circumcising my baby with my cat’s claws”.

You’re getting close, but here needs to be something about obesity and sex offender “thought crime” in there. And the failure to tip should be hate speech.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/124 "2013-01-08T20:53:00Z")

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> [@Larry\_Borgia](#):
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> It’s taking a long time for the mods to ban this one, given that it has a surprising familiarity with this board and it’s culture and it knows exactly what dopers outrage reflexes are: Transexuality, tipping, and child rearing so far. It’s a pretty skilled troll in terms of getting attention, but it isn’t one for subtlety.

As I wrote back on page 2:

> [@Loach](#):
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> SevenCl is a perfectly built Troll creation. He is systematically pushing every Doper button. I am flabbergasted when I see people falling for it. I’m just waiting for his, “Ask the transperson with a declawed Pitbull” thread.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/125 "2013-01-08T20:53:02Z")

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So how sad is it that whenever I see a new user starting a thread as their first post ever, if they have it in the right forum my first thought is “sock puppet?”

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/126 "2013-01-08T20:55:48Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> You’re getting close, but here needs to be something about obesity and sex offender “thought crime” in there. And the failure to tip should be hate speech.

Hey, it’s a mod! So are you banning this annoying troll–and probable sock–soon?

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/127 "2013-01-08T21:06:00Z")

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> [@Ethilrist](#):
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> So how sad is it that whenever I see a new user starting a thread as their first post ever, if they have it in the right forum my first thought is “sock puppet?”

Somewhat sad. But if the same idiot came to your door every day wearing a different silly disguise and using yet another ridiculous accent, I suspect your greeting would grow increasingly chilly.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/128 "2013-01-08T21:18:10Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Somewhat sad. But if the same idiot came to your door every day wearing a different silly disguise and using yet another ridiculous accent, I suspect your greeting would grow increasingly chilly.

I’m reminded of Tim Curry in a Girl Scout uniform from some movie that I can’t quite recall the name of.

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**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/129 "2013-01-08T22:13:32Z")

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_Loaded Weapon I_

Here’s a [clip](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3nWUP8uMw0).

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/130 "2013-01-08T22:16:14Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> average sized rooster

Band name!

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/131 "2013-01-08T22:19:23Z")

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> [@Kimballkid](#):
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> _Loaded Weapon I_

No… that’s not it… but it’s something like that.

Emilio Estevez was in it, and Samuel L. Jackson. It was a parody of buddy cop movies.

I think it started with an L, maybe Lo. Lo…lo… la..la La Dolce Vita, that’s it.

Wait, no, that’s not right. Jeez, what is it?

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**Author:** ![Enkel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/df705f/32.png) [@Enkel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enkel)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/132 "2013-01-08T22:27:34Z")

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> [@singular1](#):
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> Just to add to the story (and to repeat what I posted in the butterfly thread), that picture is a dead and mounted butterfly, pinned to a branch. That picture is as authentic as the pictures of fairies at the bottom of the garden.

You have got to be kidding me! I didn’t see your post in the oversized butterfly thread that is is fake… I had posted about mothman in that thread and I felt horrible about the poor and ugly timing of that post.

I hope Frosty Camel gets infested with never ending, unexplainable, painful boils all over his body and that he/she lives for fifty years with the condition and no treatment.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/133 "2013-01-08T22:34:16Z")

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> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> No… that’s not it… but it’s something like that.
> 
> Emilio Estevez was in it, and Samuel L. Jackson. It was a parody of buddy cop movies.
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> I think it started with an L, maybe Lo. Lo…lo… la..la La Dolce Vita, that’s it.
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> Wait, no, that’s not right. Jeez, what is it?

_Citizen Kane_?

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**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/134 "2013-01-08T22:37:32Z")

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Don’t spoil the ending for me!!!

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**Author:** ![Enkel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/df705f/32.png) [@Enkel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enkel)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/135 "2013-01-08T22:38:28Z")

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> [@The\_Dord](#):
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> That’s a **painful** and **hard** quandary to answer!

[Sevencl:trolling]Not at all… I’d happily throw a baby through a shredder before I’d declaw a defenseless kitten[/Sevencl]

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/136 "2013-01-08T22:39:14Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> _Citizen Kane_?

No… that’s not it. Something like that though.

[For those wondering.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGYJyeX-oMc)

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/137 "2013-01-08T22:52:01Z")

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Wow, it seems age finally caught up with Dave Foley. The guy looks 15 years old for 30 years, and then POW.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/138 "2013-01-08T23:00:17Z")

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> [@Larry\_Borgia](#):
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> Hey, it’s a mod! So are you banning this annoying troll–and probable sock–soon?

The only thing I’m comfortable saying is this: we’re aware of what **sevencl** has been up to and we’re discussing what, if anything, we need to do about it.

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2013, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/139 "2013-01-09T00:11:19Z")

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You for got the [evil laugh](http://muwhahaha.com/).

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**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2013, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/140 "2013-01-09T00:22:14Z")

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> [@Larry\_Borgia](#):
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> Hey, it’s a mod! So are you banning this annoying troll–and probable sock–soon?

We probably do the dance a bit longer than we should, but we’re all a bunch of ultra liberals who value free speech and don’t want to ban someone until we have a smoking gun with fingerprints and a purchase receipt.

Oh, yeah. What **Marley** said.

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