# Sevencl, This is your pit **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 4, 2013, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113 "2013-01-04T23:45:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Simple\_Linctus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Simple\_Linctus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simple_Linctus)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2013, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/141 "2013-01-09T00:33:48Z")
You lot are bizarre. So far, sevencl’s “crimes” seem to have been to correctly point out one troll, and to express a rational position on tipping. That said position seems wrong to you is because you have been brought up with a stupid position which bears little reality to the way the rest of the world works - ESPECIALLY Scotland where no one ever tips at all. In Glasgow if someone left £20 for a £19.80 bill, then it would be more likely to be a “keep the change” type incident where the person doing it thought they were doign the staff a favour than an insult. She seems entirely reasonable to me and I hope she won’t mind me saying that I PM’d her for advice about something and she gave me a very thoughtful reponse, something I really doubt that a troll would do. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2013, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/142 "2013-01-09T00:40:49Z")
> [@Simple\_Linctus](#): > > You lot are bizarre. So far, sevencl’s “crimes” seem to have been to correctly point out one troll, and to express a rational position on tipping. That said position seems wrong to you is because you have been brought up with a stupid position which bears little reality to the way the rest of the world works - ESPECIALLY Scotland where no one ever tips at all. In Glasgow if someone left £20 for a £19.80 bill, then it would be more likely to be a “keep the change” type incident where the person doing it thought they were doign the staff a favour than an insult. > > She seems entirely reasonable to me and I hope she won’t mind me saying that I PM’d her for advice about something and she gave me a very thoughtful reponse, something I really doubt that a troll would do. Why does this not surprise me in the slightest :rolleyes: Two complete fucking assholes agree with one another. What a shock the douchebags are on the same side. ---
**Author:** ![Simple\_Linctus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Simple\_Linctus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simple_Linctus)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2013, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/143 "2013-01-09T00:44:34Z")
> [@zoid](#): > > Why does this not surprise me in the slightest :rolleyes: > Two complete fucking assholes agree with one another. What a shock the douchebags are on the same side. Since I know I am not an asshole (I suppose I could be a doucehbag, that is a matter of opinion, but there is no conceivable way I could be an asshole) your remarks just reinforce how much of a silly person you are. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2013, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/144 "2013-01-09T01:42:11Z")
Actually, she didn’t “out” a troll. She never brought up any issues with the OP of that thread per se, she just highjacked the hell of it with her ongoing threadshit about _her_ privacy concerns. And as has been brought up by most posters in this thread, it’s amazing how 1) intimate she is with board culture and how she just happens 2) to be on the controversial side of things. Every single time, long-windedly all over the place. What, 300 posts in less than three days? Too much just doesn’t add up. I’m sure that TPTB haven’t got her on their radar for no good reason. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2013, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/145 "2013-01-09T01:47:10Z")
> [@Simple\_Linctus](#): > > Since I know I am not an asshole (I suppose I could be a doucehbag, that is a matter of opinion, but there is no conceivable way I could be an asshole) your remarks just reinforce how much of a silly person you are. 🙂 I agree **SL** , you aren’t an asshole. You may have a, um, _colorful_ writing style and wacky ideas but you are no asshole. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2013, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/146 "2013-01-09T02:02:16Z")
Well, there’s an endorsement! ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2013, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/147 "2013-01-09T02:05:22Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > The only thing I’m comfortable saying is this: we’re aware of what **sevencl** has been up to and we’re discussing what, if anything, we need to do about it. > [@samclem](#): > > We probably do the dance a bit longer than we should, but we’re all a bunch of ultra liberals who value free speech and don’t want to ban someone until we have a smoking gun with fingerprints and a purchase receipt. > > Oh, yeah. What **Marley** said. Thanks, didn’t mean to be a pest. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2013, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/148 "2013-01-09T02:07:23Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Well, there’s an endorsement! LOL. It really was meant to be positive. Perhaps not overly-gushingly so but positive nonetheless. For all his eccentricities, I like **SL**. He’s entertaining. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2013, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/149 "2013-01-09T02:12:43Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > LOL. It really was meant to be positive. Perhaps not overly-gushingly so but positive nonetheless. For all his eccentricities, I like **SL**. He’s entertaining. _ **Whoosh** _ ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2013, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/150 "2013-01-09T02:18:50Z")
> [@faithfool](#): > > Actually, she didn’t “out” a troll. She never brought up any issues with the OP of that thread per se, she just highjacked the hell of it with her ongoing threadshit about _her_ privacy concerns. Yeah. I’m not going to speculate on whether she’s a troll because I’m really really bad at figuring out stuff like that, but let’s be honest about what happened in that thread. Whether or not **Frosty Camel** was pulling his story out of his ass, her behavior was still inappropriate. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2013, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/151 "2013-01-09T02:34:41Z")
> [@zoid](#): > > _ **Whoosh** _ Eh, Jamie’s all right. With the Hundred Years’ Troll War we’re in the midst of, he’s practically an elder fuckin’ statesman now. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2013, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/152 "2013-01-09T02:52:56Z")
> [@olivesmarch4th](#): > > Yeah. I’m not going to speculate on whether she’s a troll because I’m really really bad at figuring out stuff like that, but let’s be honest about what happened in that thread. Whether or not **Frosty Camel** was pulling his story out of his ass, her behavior was still inappropriate. Here’s a clue as to figuring it out. If someone joins and immediately starts posting about issues that have caused heated debates here (especially multiple heated debates), it is probably a troll. You’ve been here long enough to know which buttons get pushed to get a reaction. Next thread “Why can’t I have an avatar pic of me and my declawed Pitbull?” ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2013, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/153 "2013-01-09T03:02:58Z")
> [@zoid](#): > > _ **Whoosh** _ :smack: > [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Well, there’s an endorsement! :mad: ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2013, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/154 "2013-01-09T10:01:11Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Eh, Jamie’s all right. With the Hundred Years’ Troll War we’re in the midst of, he’s practically an elder fuckin’ statesman now. Just remind me never to get on YOUR bad side. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2013, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/155 "2013-01-09T17:37:53Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Which is why this time the poster started a few “normal” threads before he suddenly killed off his family in the car crash. But even then he only waited a couple of weeks, and some people were suspicious that he’d fallen victim to such a tragedy right after signing up. Ooh, I’ve been lurking here since the old days … can I kill off mine now? (If you’d met them, you’d help…) ---
**Author:** ![half-elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@half-elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/half-elf)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2013, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/156 "2013-01-09T18:06:01Z")
While I do agree that in certain instances Sevencl’s posts have not been very polite, and on some occasions rather inflammatory, I am not posting here either to flame or to defend him/her. My point is this: I registered here a few years ago (to enable the search function TBH) and started actually posting very recently (and not even every day). Thing is, I lurked unregistered for years before that and am quite familiar with several aspects of the “culture of this board” as has been mentioned upthread, even though I am a very new poster. So what I’m saying is that being familiar with the board culture in itself doesn’t really point to somebody being a troll or a sock or whatever. ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2013, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/157 "2013-01-09T18:21:22Z")
I do not engage with Sevencl because she did 9/11 to piss off the Democrat party. I can prove it by throwing this paper towel tube down the quarry. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2013, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/158 "2013-01-09T19:41:12Z")
> [@half-elf](#): > > So what I’m saying is that being familiar with the board culture in itself doesn’t really point to somebody being a troll or a sock or whatever. No, but obvious trolls are obvious. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2013, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/159 "2013-01-09T19:49:02Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > No, but obvious trolls are obvious. But some are oblivious to the obvious. I mean they choose to see the good in everybody 😛 ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/160 "2013-01-10T00:13:21Z")
> [@gamerunknown](#): > > I do not engage with Sevencl because she did 9/11 to piss off the Democrat party. I can prove it by throwing this paper towel tube down the quarry. For someone who joined less than two years ago, you seem suspiciously familiar with this board. Are you a troll? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113.md?page=9)