# Sevencl, This is your pit **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 4, 2013, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113 "2013-01-04T23:45:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/161 "2013-01-10T00:42:35Z")
> [@gamerunknown](#): > > I do not engage with Sevencl because she did 9/11 to piss off the Democrat party. I can prove it by throwing this paper towel tube down the quarry. What a perfect amalgam of _Misguided Cliches Of The Pit_… It’s only lacking a “Regards, Diogenes” at the end. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/162 "2013-01-10T22:13:29Z")
**Diogenes!** That’s who I was trying to think of! Thank you! ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2013, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/163 "2013-01-11T17:21:21Z")
> **[Who is the bigger jerk?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=678534)** > > Went to a movie. At the end, I’m watching the credits roll, and got to enjoy a new drama unfold in the seats. Guy from my row goes past muttering to his date. I’m not clear what about, but then he strolls back in to go to the ladies in the row... It’s found a new button to push: talking at the movies. It sure likes to push those buttons. ---
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/164 "2013-01-12T13:07:32Z")
I can’t decide whether s/h/it is an intentional troll, who’s also blatantly stupid, or an idiot who comes off as a troll due to blatant stupidity. ---
**Author:** ![JessMagic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c0e974/32.png) [@JessMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JessMagic)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/165 "2013-01-12T16:19:08Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > Band name! They’d be no match for the Mansize Rooster: [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/dHlLcVHncDw/hqdefault.jpg "Supergrass - Mansize Rooster (Official HD Video)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHlLcVHncDw) ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/166 "2013-01-12T16:46:03Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > I’m reminded of Tim Curry in a Girl Scout uniform from some movie that I can’t quite recall the name of. > [@Kimballkid](#): > > _Loaded Weapon I_ > > Here’s a [clip](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3nWUP8uMw0). > [@Bob Ducca](#): > > No… that’s not it… but it’s something like that. > > Emilio Estevez was in it, and Samuel L. Jackson. It was a parody of buddy cop movies. > > I think it started with an L, maybe Lo. Lo…lo… la..la La Dolce Vita, that’s it. > > Wait, no, that’s not right. Jeez, what is it? [Citizen Kane?](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGYJyeX-oMc) ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/167 "2013-01-12T18:20:16Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > **Diogenes!** That’s who I was trying to think of! Thank you! No it isn’t. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Cinnamon\_Imp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@Cinnamon\_Imp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cinnamon_Imp)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2013, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/168 "2013-01-14T11:59:34Z")
> [@Cinnamon\_Imp](#): > > Fuck, she’s from Glasgow. I really hope I don’t know her in RL, And she’s now a [6’1 17 stone transexual from Glasgow](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=15895245#post15895245). Well, that narrows it down enough that I could probably find out her RL identity if I wanted to. If I believed her 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2013, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/169 "2013-01-14T15:29:52Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > No it isn’t. > > Regards, > Shodan Is that whoooooshing sound in your head louder than usual? Regards, All the annoying people in your life, blowing through paper towel tubes at the bottom of the quarry ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2013, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/170 "2013-01-14T15:42:19Z")
> [@digs](#): > > Is that whoooooshing sound in your head louder than usual? Think you’re the one in the wind tunnel this time. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2013, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/171 "2013-01-14T17:01:32Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > **Diogenes!** That’s who I was trying to think of! Thank you! Nooo, that’s not right. It’s something \*like \*that though… ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2013, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/172 "2013-01-14T20:19:12Z")
> [@digs](#): > > Is that whoooooshing sound in your head louder than usual? Not as loud as for some people. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/173 "2013-01-15T03:06:40Z")
[Yep, SevenCL is definitely exhibiting trollish behavior.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=15900069#post15900069) ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/174 "2013-01-15T05:00:57Z")
Whew, back on topic before anyone notices that my whoosh got whooshed… ---
**Author:** ![Fiveroptic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiveroptic/32/8257_2.png) [@Fiveroptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveroptic)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/175 "2013-01-15T06:15:23Z")
I find her to be annoying and obnoxious much in the same way that **Quiddity Glomfuster** was (or whatever her name was, the crazy, insufferable bitch with the stick up her ass sideways.) You just know that both of them must be true treasures of delightful hell to live with. Or be in the same room together, for that matter. Oh god, I just imagined being locked in a room with both at the same time! Someone hold me. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![kayT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayt/32/3633_2.png) [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/176 "2013-01-15T13:05:20Z")
I think **Sevencl** has made the thread “things I find rude” completely unreadable. Which is a thing I find rude. I suggest that we all stop responding to that person over there. ---
**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/177 "2013-01-15T19:02:39Z")
I’m still not sure if Sevencl’s a troll in that she’s pretending to be what she’s not, or a troll in that she’s honest about who she is but is deliberately winding people up, or a genuine 100% arsehole. It’d be nice to believe that anyone that selfish and annoying can’t possibly be real, but there really are people out there like that - some of them are in government. That said, I’m not going to engage with her any more. Either I’ve been taken in or I’m arguing with a vile idiot. Neither is worth my time. > [@Cinnamon\_Imp](#): > > Oh god, now I feel obliged to semi-defend the guy/girl, aargh. > > Obviously, the way s/he has stated it was to get a reaction out of a US-based message board, and yes, that was deliberate - anyone who’s spent any time around a large group of Americans knows the tipping custom, and how you’re stealing from the mouths of babies of hardworking blue collar moms&pops if you don’t. > > HOWEVER, in the context of being said by a British person, what Sevencl said was reasonable and not stupid (disclaimer, disclaimer, if it had been said within the UK, to a UK audience, etc etc, blah blah blah). In the UK, the bill you are presented with is calculated to include your servers wages, so if you leave any extra for them/the cook/whoever, it’s an act of sheer generosity, not an unwritten obligation. So yeah, if you were skint as a result of taxes going up, you’d be less likely to give money away where you don’t strictly need to. > > S/he operates it suspiciously well too, good grammar - that rules out some of the more “playful” internet folk I know from Glasgow 😉 Nope, even in the UK you are expected to tip at proper restaurants. And she was talking specifically about the US anyway and knew what the tipping etiquette is there. > [@Simple\_Linctus](#): > > You lot are bizarre. So far, sevencl’s “crimes” seem to have been to correctly point out one troll, and to express a rational position on tipping. That said position seems wrong to you is because you have been brought up with a stupid position which bears little reality to the way the rest of the world works - ESPECIALLY Scotland where no one ever tips at all. In Glasgow if someone left £20 for a £19.80 bill, then it would be more likely to be a “keep the change” type incident where the person doing it thought they were doign the staff a favour than an insult. > > She seems entirely reasonable to me and I hope she won’t mind me saying that I PM’d her for advice about something and she gave me a very thoughtful reponse, something I really doubt that a troll would do. She didn’t correctly point out a troll. If she thought he was a troll, then why would she take him to task for his “stalking?” (Unless she knows he’s a troll because they are the same person or they’re friends). Do people in Glasgow really never tip even in proper restaurants? Have you ever been to Glasgow? ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/178 "2013-01-16T04:24:20Z")
> [@Simple\_Linctus](#): > > You lot are bizarre. So far, sevencl’s “crimes” seem to have been to correctly point out one troll, and to express a rational position on tipping. That said position seems wrong to you is because you have been brought up with a stupid position which bears little reality to the way the rest of the world works - ESPECIALLY Scotland where no one ever tips at all. In Glasgow if someone left £20 for a £19.80 bill, then it would be more likely to be a “keep the change” type incident where the person doing it thought they were doign the staff a favour than an insult. > > She seems entirely reasonable to me and I hope she won’t mind me saying that I PM’d her for advice about something and she gave me a very thoughtful reponse, something I really doubt that a troll would do. Yes, but I would hope that if you were to visit the U.S., you would follow the whole “when in Rome” thing, and abide by our customs, which is to tip. If you didn’t, THEN you would be an asshole. ---
**Author:** ![Sierra\_Indigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@Sierra\_Indigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sierra_Indigo)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/179 "2013-01-16T04:56:29Z")
> [@kayT](#): > > I think **Sevencl** has made the thread “things I find rude” completely unreadable. Which is a thing I find rude. I suggest that we all stop responding to that person over there. No more unreadable than the interminable fucking “OMG DISABLED STALL” hijack that occurs every fucking time threads like this are opened. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113/180 "2013-01-16T04:59:41Z")
> [@Sierra\_Indigo](#): > > No more unreadable than the interminable fucking “OMG DISABLED STALL” hijack that occurs every fucking time threads like this are opened. -1 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevencl-this-is-your-pit/646113.md?page=10)