# Seven's Suspension

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevens-suspension/504738>\
**Category:** About This Message Board\
**Created:** [July 30, 2009, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevens-suspension/504738 "2009-07-30T01:50:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevens-suspension/504738/21 "2009-07-30T02:23:34Z")

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> [@Sapo](#):
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> ETA: And this is as good a time as any to remind you of my idea of somehow making some form of _fumata nera_ post that tells people that the silence of the mods is not contempt but just eating the Twix while you think of something.

I would like to point out for the record that **Twix** has not actually been eaten (at least not that I know of). Generally speaking, we eat the trolls, not the mods.

ETA: (I suppose I should have refreshed first to see if **Twix** had posted on her own while I was reading…)

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**Author:** ![DudleyGarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DudleyGarrett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DudleyGarrett)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevens-suspension/504738/22 "2009-07-30T02:23:49Z")

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Good work, guys. Skip, maybe you’re not such an asshole after all.

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**Author:** ![Elyanna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b5ac83/32.png) [@Elyanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elyanna)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevens-suspension/504738/23 "2009-07-30T02:24:51Z")

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This is a step in a better direction.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevens-suspension/504738/24 "2009-07-30T02:26:49Z")

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Thank you.

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**Author:** ![dogbutler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dogbutler/32/428_2.png) [@dogbutler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dogbutler)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevens-suspension/504738/25 "2009-07-30T02:27:59Z")

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Thank you.

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**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevens-suspension/504738/26 "2009-07-30T02:28:47Z")

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> [@DudleyGarrett](#):
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> Good work, guys. Skip, maybe you’re not such an asshole after all.

No, I pretty much am. My wife’s just doing the typing in this thread so it doesn’t leak out so much.

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**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevens-suspension/504738/27 "2009-07-30T02:40:40Z")

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> [@twickster](#):
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> No one was eating me (in _any_ sense of the word), I assure you.

Your loss! Anyways, I meant Twix not twicks. 😉

> [@DudleyGarrett](#):
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> Good work, guys. Skip, maybe you’re not such an asshole after all.

You forgot the “no matter what they say”.

> [@samclem](#):
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> Sapo, Sapo, Sapo. Since your suspension, I’ve noticed you’ve been a pretty insightful poster. Rational. But now you disappoint me.
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> How, pray tell, do you have such magic insight into the working of the Moderation of this Board? You been reading our mail? Some mole telling you what is going on? Or are you just making this up as you go along?
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> Every word **Skip** said is true. Exactly as it went down. You’re simply incorrect.

I am not claiming any insight nor challenging Skips’ account of what happened. All I am saying is that although he might be the proximate cause, he is not the ultimate cause.

I might be missing some details that happened behind the scenes, but from what we can tell from the audience, the issue did start with Tuba’s PM to Seven and him publishing it. Is that not the case?

We might argue who is more at fault, her for sending it or him for publishing it, but is she hadn’t sent it, he couldn’t have published it.

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**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevens-suspension/504738/28 "2009-07-30T03:00:34Z")

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Well I’ll join the chrous - to TPTB, well done on reversing this decision.

I still think that Tuba’s PM to 7 was unneccesarily rude and provocotive and was probably a major cause in the banning (no matter who pulled the trigger or subsequent acrtions) and would hope that “those in authority” can speak more civilly. After all, it is very seldom that you get what you want by antagonising others and calling them names.

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**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevens-suspension/504738/29 "2009-07-30T03:04:25Z")

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well done

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevens-suspension/504738/30 "2009-07-30T03:06:20Z")

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And all it took was nine pages and damned near every active poster on four boards telling you how bullshit it was. Well done indeed.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevens-suspension/504738/31 "2009-07-30T03:07:34Z")

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> [@bengangmo](#):
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> I still think that Tuba’s PM to 7 was unneccesarily rude and provocotive and was probably a major cause in the banning (no matter who pulled the trigger or subsequent acrtions) and would hope that “those in authority” can speak more civilly. After all, it is very seldom that you get what you want by antagonising others and calling them names.

What was the context of the quote that **Seven** used as a signature? Since you know.

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**Author:** ![starwarsfreek42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@starwarsfreek42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/starwarsfreek42)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevens-suspension/504738/32 "2009-07-30T03:07:54Z")

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Excellent decision.

**swf42** : goes back to lurking. May the Force be with you all, and such.

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**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevens-suspension/504738/33 "2009-07-30T03:16:49Z")

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**Sapo, Sapo, Sapo** , don’t you know a tree that was supposed to fall in the forest but lands in the public square still never makes a sound.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevens-suspension/504738/34 "2009-07-30T03:19:24Z")

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Y’all made the correct decision. Kudos for that. But please keep your wits about you in the future.

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**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevens-suspension/504738/35 "2009-07-30T03:22:40Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> What was the context of the quote that **Seven** used as a signature? Since you know.

Does it matter? No matter what the “context” a nasty comment is still a nasty comment. Whether you feel it was deserved or not, nastiness is never becoming, and even less so to someone speaking from a position of authority.

I am not very skilled with words compared to many on this board. but even I could have re-written that comment to be a whole lot more useful, and likely to get the desired response. Tuba, having been around since the beginning (waaaaaay longer than me) should know enough to understand that this sort of comment is only likely to antagonise and lead to further nastiness. If not, she doesn’t have the intellect that I have always abscribed to her.

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**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevens-suspension/504738/36 "2009-07-30T03:23:55Z")

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And good decision, though I think **Seven** should only have gotten Seven Days of suspension, if anything.\*

- I’ll stop betting that dead Shetland now.

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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevens-suspension/504738/37 "2009-07-30T03:24:26Z")

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Excellent decision. Yay!

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**Author:** ![Polyperchon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/50afbb/32.png) [@Polyperchon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polyperchon)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevens-suspension/504738/38 "2009-07-30T03:38:32Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> What was the context of the quote that **Seven** used as a signature? Since you know.

Here: (link removed)

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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevens-suspension/504738/39 "2009-07-30T03:41:22Z")

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Great decision y’all. Thank you.

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**Author:** ![PastAllReason](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f07891/32.png) [@PastAllReason](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastAllReason)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sevens-suspension/504738/40 "2009-07-30T03:41:46Z")

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> [@featherlou](#):
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> And all it took was nine pages and damned near every active poster on four boards telling you how bullshit it was. Well done indeed.

All things considered, I have to say that my thoughts are pretty much the same, and this didn’t actually lessen my disappointment with the board moderation a whole lot.

The reason why? I don’t think that the banning would have been changed to a suspension were it not for the multi-page thread and that resulted from the precipitous banning. I don’t really see what would stop exactly the same sort of moderator action from happening again.

Carrying on that thought, what if the poster hadn’t been around for umpteen years with umpteen thousand posts that would spawn the kind of posting output of the last 24 hours? Would that person still be banned? My gut reaction is that the answer to that is “yes”.

It seems to me to be a very poor model of customer service that relies on the sustained deafening din of outrage to realize that there is a process problem in customer service.

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