# Seventy bodies delivered to Baghdad morgue in six hours, many tortured and executed. **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [May 14, 2006, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seventy-bodies-delivered-to-baghdad-morgue-in-six-hours-many-tortured-and-executed/356733 "2006-05-14T14:11:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2006, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seventy-bodies-delivered-to-baghdad-morgue-in-six-hours-many-tortured-and-executed/356733/101 "2006-05-30T15:42:57Z")
> [@](#): > > **gonzomax** > > The idea that a democracy had something to do with us going to Iraq is laughable. This is another colonial war. We are after oil and setting up bases in the middle east. I see no problem with having a stable supply of Oil and military bases within a country which is democratic and has the power of refusal to MNF demands, and in light of the politics which came about after the fall of Saddam, the ability of MNF to impose demands on the Government of Iraq, has not been as effective as one might presume. > [@](#): > > Sadaam was no threat to the countries around him and thats what the Turks said when we wanted to launch fron their land. Of course Saddam wasn’t a threat to Turkey, he was making sure the Kurds didn’t get any wild ideas about aspiring to their own independent state, so naturally they’d be opposed to him being overthrown. We could have fixed the oil supply to Iraq ,fixed the water supply and the electricity. > [@](#): > > We claim we cant control the territory to do that,but we are moving along ahead of schedule on the “embassy” that is as large as the Vatican. Because a fixed position compared to an area of pretty much decentralised oil producing centres and electricity centres can be defended the same as building a US Embassy. > [@](#): > > We have 16 brick and mortor bases “permanent” Which will either be handed over to competent Iraqi military forces or used to train Iraqi security forces further. There are bases in Korea, my country, Germany, Japan, Okinawa yet no one complains about those bases being ‘US Colonialism’ > [@](#): > > . For an idea of life in Iraq, I suggest blogs Baghdad Burning, A Family In Iraq, and Free Iraq. Its from the view of them who live there.; Pity that, considering no one ever advocates, Iraq the Model, Iraqi Pundit or the Mesopotamian blogs, all of which come out of Iraq. Two sides to every story. ---
**Author:** ![Gaudere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e495f1/32.png) [@Gaudere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gaudere)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2006, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seventy-bodies-delivered-to-baghdad-morgue-in-six-hours-many-tortured-and-executed/356733/102 "2006-05-30T16:14:25Z")
**Ryan\_Liam** : > [@](#): > > If I knew nothing of what I would speak of, I would expect from you in reply a Tamerlane-esque response to what I had just stated, but since you cannot reply to me without a bunch of profanities, it shows how dumb you are in not being able to carry an adequate arguement. **RedFury** : > [@](#): > > Other than oftenly being rather obtuse… [Moderator Hat ON] RedFury, Ryan\_Liam, you are STILL insulting each other despite being warned in this thread previously. This is an offical warning and I want you both to stop it NOW. [Moderator Hat OFF] ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2006, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seventy-bodies-delivered-to-baghdad-morgue-in-six-hours-many-tortured-and-executed/356733/103 "2006-05-30T20:30:40Z")
The point of the links isnt to propagandize,it just shows what it is like to live there now.I am very much against the war but I dont live there.Im sure Chakabi has a different viewpoint. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seventy-bodies-delivered-to-baghdad-morgue-in-six-hours-many-tortured-and-executed/356733.md?page=5)