# Severance Season 2 \[OPEN SPOILERS\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, apple\ **Created:** [January 14, 2025, 9:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severance-season-2-open-spoilers/1012952 "2025-01-14T09:50:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2025, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severance-season-2-open-spoilers/1012952/381 "2025-04-10T15:30:36Z")
I definitely don’t feel like the story is anywhere near wrapped up and I’m kind of baffled by people who do. We learned a little bit about what they’re working on at Lumon but not the reason or purpose behind it. What’s their overall goal? What’s the next step? If the series was not renewed I certainly don’t feel like we got a satisfying explanation. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2025, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severance-season-2-open-spoilers/1012952/382 "2025-04-10T15:47:42Z")
Well they could certainly go a different direction but I thought they were fairly clear. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2025, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severance-season-2-open-spoilers/1012952/383 "2025-04-10T16:04:47Z")
Could you explain? What’s the next step for Lumon? What’s their overall goal? ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2025, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severance-season-2-open-spoilers/1012952/384 "2025-04-10T16:38:25Z")
They’ve said their goal is “ending pain as we know it”, apparently by compartmentalizing your trauma. Cold Harbor was the ultimate trauma, the loss of a child. I imagine their next step would have been to start severing all their cult members. I don’t know what the next step is now that the experiment failed. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2025, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severance-season-2-open-spoilers/1012952/385 "2025-04-11T21:11:43Z")
There are a fair number of quite big mysteries remaining: -Who was outie Irving working with? -How did Gemma end up on the testing floor? -Can reintegration actually work? Plus of course the resolution of various emotional arcs. Milchick rebelling against Lumon, for instance. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2025, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severance-season-2-open-spoilers/1012952/386 "2025-04-11T23:27:22Z")
If Irving was working with anyone it would have to be Reghabi, because she is the only option. I feel we saw the last of Irving already though. They just took Gemma and put her down there, they basically own the city. ---
**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severance-season-2-open-spoilers/1012952/387 "2025-04-12T01:05:27Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > They’ve said their goal is “ending pain as we know it” Where do they say that? ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severance-season-2-open-spoilers/1012952/388 "2025-04-12T19:17:49Z")
> [@zbuzz](#): > > Where do they say that? In the show that we watched. I am not about to go look up the individual scene, but I assure you it is there. ---
**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severance-season-2-open-spoilers/1012952/389 "2025-04-12T21:44:56Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > In the show that we watched. I think you might have been watching another show. I’m pretty sure no one from Lumon has ever said that. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severance-season-2-open-spoilers/1012952/390 "2025-04-12T21:46:59Z")
Part of the goat sacrifice ritual is, “We commit this animal to Kier and his eternal war against pain” ---
**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severance-season-2-open-spoilers/1012952/391 "2025-04-12T21:53:27Z")
lol, that’ll teach me to always make sure I have downloaded all the episode sub files before I search for the word pain in them. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severance-season-2-open-spoilers/1012952/392 "2025-04-12T22:18:01Z")
There was more than that. A direct reference to “ending all pain as we know it”. Can’t remember what scene though. Plus, you know… everything they are doing. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2025, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severance-season-2-open-spoilers/1012952/393 "2025-04-13T00:01:33Z")
Even taking it for granted that they _say_ they are all about ending pain… it’s pretty clear that they aren’t, right? Or at least, that they’re all about ending pain the same way someone who is trying to wipe out all life on this planet is about ending human suffering? Like, okay, they say it’s all about ending pain, but really it seems like it’s about control. Not eliminating pain for the subject’s sake, but rather for the sake of bending the subject to their will, those treating the, more like a an object without any agency of _its_ own. Are you not curious to see how their philosophy would manifest in the real world? Are you so in line with Lumon that you really don’t care what happens to iMark or even oMark going forward? ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2025, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severance-season-2-open-spoilers/1012952/394 "2025-04-13T00:06:39Z")
Not all together off-topic. Is anybody else watching the current season of _Black Mirror_? My wife and I rewatched “USS Callister” from season 4 and the sequel to that episode that just dropped. We instantly started to refer to the characters as “innies” and “outies”. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2025, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severance-season-2-open-spoilers/1012952/395 "2025-04-13T00:07:53Z")
> [@ASL\_v2.0](#): > > Are you so in line with Lumon that you really don’t care what happens to iMark or even oMark going forward? I have no idea what this is supposed to mean. The whole thing is basically a plot of Black Mirror, they are “ending pain” by creating alternate personalities who’s ENTIRE existence is nothing but pain. Works out great for the outtie, for the innie its literal hell, much worse than what the worker innies face. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2025, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severance-season-2-open-spoilers/1012952/396 "2025-04-13T00:28:54Z")
It means things are only “resolved” with no need for additional episodes if you are fine having no closure on how things turn out for any of your protagonists, innie or outtie, including your lead protagonists. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2025, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severance-season-2-open-spoilers/1012952/397 "2025-04-13T00:31:27Z")
Obviously the plot has not been resolved, I only claimed all the big mysteries had been explained. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severance-season-2-open-spoilers/1012952/398 "2025-04-15T19:21:09Z")
Oh I did remember when they made it clear, it was the doctors conversation with Gemma. ---
**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severance-season-2-open-spoilers/1012952/399 "2025-04-18T04:55:47Z")
You mean the scene where the guy says Kier will take away Mark’s pain just as Kier has taken away yours? ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severance-season-2-open-spoilers/1012952/400 "2025-04-18T12:10:17Z")
Yup. And live in a world free of pain or some culty shit like that. Plus of course scattered comments throughout the show. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severance-season-2-open-spoilers/1012952.md?page=19) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severance-season-2-open-spoilers/1012952.md?page=21)