# Severance Season 2 \[OPEN SPOILERS\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, apple\ **Created:** [January 14, 2025, 9:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severance-season-2-open-spoilers/1012952 "2025-01-14T09:50:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severance-season-2-open-spoilers/1012952/121 "2025-02-11T19:59:28Z")
Or in coma if not. Which is where Gemma might be now? ---
**Author:** ![mozchron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mozchron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mozchron)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severance-season-2-open-spoilers/1012952/122 "2025-02-11T20:18:49Z")
> [@zbuzz](#): > > Mark’s outtie watch is some Russian-made watch and Gemma was a professor of Russian literature Mark’s outie watch is a Vostok Komandirskie. I read in an article that the one in the show is actually owned by the show propmaster. Apparently they’re used a lot in movies etc… because they come in hundreds of dial and strap variations. Vostok’s are super cheap. Not particularly accurate, but also extremely tough. I’ve owned several over the years. ---
**Author:** ![CoolHandCox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coolhandcox/32/16233_2.png) [@CoolHandCox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoolHandCox)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severance-season-2-open-spoilers/1012952/123 "2025-02-11T20:45:13Z")
That makes sense. I was hung-up on the typical way we always see them go from Outtie/Innie - clear distinctions between the outside world vs the severed floor world. But really, it’s just a floor or more technically just a switch that is flipped. That can be done anywhere. Gemma’s “outtie” could just be in another room inside the building. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severance-season-2-open-spoilers/1012952/124 "2025-02-11T21:08:12Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > Or in coma if not. Which is where Gemma might be now? Huh. Maybe Miss Huang wasn’t a very good crossing guard? ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severance-season-2-open-spoilers/1012952/125 "2025-02-11T21:11:35Z")
A great one! She dived in front of a car to push a smaller child out of harm’s way! Driver was speeding and texting. … 😀 ---
**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severance-season-2-open-spoilers/1012952/126 "2025-02-12T01:14:11Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > The coma theme is real. Some innies’ outies are comatose. Gemma’s likely. Miss Huang probably. > [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Huh. Maybe Miss Huang wasn’t a very good crossing guard? Doesn’t the fact that Miss Huang knows she was a crossing guard mean she’s not severed? So she’s not an innie? Plus, she’s management, isn’t she? Management seems to consist of unsevered persons? ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severance-season-2-open-spoilers/1012952/127 "2025-02-12T01:31:05Z")
My imagining is that any innies whose outies are comatose are subject to different rules. Ms. Casey was management too. Also Miss Huang may believe she was a crossing guard because she was told that. True or not. ---
**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severance-season-2-open-spoilers/1012952/128 "2025-02-12T01:36:50Z")
> [@mozchron](#): > > Mark’s outie watch is a Vostok Komandirskie. I read in an article that the one in the show is actually owned by the show propmaster. I guess that makes the difference in the dates less likely to be a flub. No prop master is going to get it right 100% of the time, but when it’s your own personal watch, you probably know it pretty intimately making that kind of lapse much less likely. ---
**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severance-season-2-open-spoilers/1012952/129 "2025-02-12T01:43:00Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > Ms. Casey was management too. Was she management or was she just head of her (one person?) department, like Petey, Mark and Burt? There seems to be a difference. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severance-season-2-open-spoilers/1012952/130 "2025-02-12T01:47:17Z")
I suspect Ms. Casey (heck, maybe the whole severed floor) is just there to prep Mark to achieve whatever “Cold Harbor” is. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severance-season-2-open-spoilers/1012952/131 "2025-02-12T03:48:26Z")
Hmm. Not sure. ---
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severance-season-2-open-spoilers/1012952/132 "2025-02-12T14:53:54Z")
What would be the purpose of confining a comatose person who was brought back to consciousness via severance to the severed floor? If there is no outtie mind to go with the innie mind then your just left with single consciousness again. For the purpose of having a slave who loses consciousness if they try to escape? ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severance-season-2-open-spoilers/1012952/133 "2025-02-12T16:21:50Z")
I think coma is a bad description. I really doubt there are severed people who are comatose in outie life and normal as innies. For Gemma, I see two possibilities: she would be normal is she were allowed off the severed floor, but given that she’s supposed to be dead, that’s not possible. So she’s “deactivated” when she’s not needed. If you want to think of it as being in a coma, it’s her innie that’s comatose. The other possibility is that she’s some clone or something that only exists in a severed state. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severance-season-2-open-spoilers/1012952/134 "2025-02-12T16:36:21Z")
Just throwing this out there, but what if the characters have been severed _twice_? The world of the “outies” is almost as weird as that of the severed floor, and as Cobel/Solvig discovered, may also be a closed one. Maybe the real outies are yet to be introduced. Maybe they are all coma patients. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severance-season-2-open-spoilers/1012952/135 "2025-02-12T17:08:14Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > Maybe they are all coma patients. That’s a LOT of severed people and infrastructure to build a giant company town around, complete with door factory. But I don’t think the idea is without merit - the outtie world as we’ve seen it is still deeply weird. Anyone who doesn’t laugh at that “door prize” joke has had some portion of their brain rewired. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severance-season-2-open-spoilers/1012952/136 "2025-02-12T17:34:57Z")
> [@Hampshire](#): > > What would be the purpose of confining a comatose person who was brought back to consciousness via severance to the severed floor? Where else would they be? Yes their outie is thought of as dead. The bringing them back is an experiment in service of … something. Maybe bringing back someone currently cryogenically stored but having control of the balance of temperaments they come back to consciousness with, and control over episodic memory as well? ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severance-season-2-open-spoilers/1012952/137 "2025-02-13T20:49:45Z")
Looking at the list of protocols, I think it’s likely they use Clean Slate to bring back Irving’s innie. John Turturro is too good to restrict him to only outie scenes, and there could be some interesting plotlines around him as a new innie with no memories. How much of his personality is innate and carries over? Does whatever innie-outie communication he had still work? ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severance-season-2-open-spoilers/1012952/138 "2025-02-13T20:54:34Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > Looking at the list of protocols, I think it’s likely they use Clean Slate to bring back Irving’s innie. If true, I wonder why they wouldn’t have done that instead of firing Mark’s co-workers in the season opener. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severance-season-2-open-spoilers/1012952/139 "2025-02-13T21:16:39Z")
In the end, it’s a show and some things are done for narrative purposes. Wiping them all in the opener isn’t a good story. Wiping Irv now potentially is. Of course, they consistently go in ways I don’t expect, so best bet is something completely different than whatever I guess. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severance-season-2-open-spoilers/1012952/140 "2025-02-13T23:36:04Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > If true, I wonder why they wouldn’t have done that instead of firing Mark’s co-workers in the season opener. They clearly need Mark for some reason, they don’t care about the other three. They only brought the other three back because Mark wouldn’t work without them. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severance-season-2-open-spoilers/1012952.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severance-season-2-open-spoilers/1012952.md?page=8)