# Severe Hijack, about US borders, moved to pit **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 23, 2023, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severe-hijack-about-us-borders-moved-to-pit/988949 "2023-08-23T01:52:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severe-hijack-about-us-borders-moved-to-pit/988949/1 "2023-08-23T01:52:39Z")
> [@GOP Candidates' Positions on Pardoning Trump](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-candidates-positions-on-pardoning-trump/988942/3): > > It’s clear that of the two parties, it is the Democrats who care more about obeying the law, keeping order, and making the country safer. What, even at the border? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severe-hijack-about-us-borders-moved-to-pit/988949/2 "2023-08-23T01:56:05Z")
Especially even at the border. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severe-hijack-about-us-borders-moved-to-pit/988949/3 "2023-08-23T01:58:36Z")
No, the _American_ border. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severe-hijack-about-us-borders-moved-to-pit/988949/4 "2023-08-23T02:02:23Z")
I knew what you were talking about, and I’m pretty sure you knew I knew. Denying legal asylum and setting up death traps in the river has nothing to do with law and order, and everything to do with sadistic cruelty. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severe-hijack-about-us-borders-moved-to-pit/988949/5 "2023-08-23T02:05:16Z")
And giving aid and comfort to illegal aliens by the million is, of course, more reprehensible still. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severe-hijack-about-us-borders-moved-to-pit/988949/6 "2023-08-23T02:06:53Z")
More reprehensible than injuring and killing refugees??? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severe-hijack-about-us-borders-moved-to-pit/988949/7 "2023-08-23T02:07:32Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > More reprehensible than injuring and killing refugees?? Ushering lawbreakers in by the million? Uh, yeah. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severe-hijack-about-us-borders-moved-to-pit/988949/8 "2023-08-23T02:08:03Z")
Are they all just “illegal aliens” to you? ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severe-hijack-about-us-borders-moved-to-pit/988949/9 "2023-08-23T02:08:22Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > And giving aid and comfort to illegal aliens by the million is, of course, more reprehensible still. Than “setting up death traps”? The moral calculus here seems deplorable. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severe-hijack-about-us-borders-moved-to-pit/988949/10 "2023-08-23T02:08:55Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Are they all just “illegal aliens” to you? Are _who_ all illegal aliens? The illegal aliens are; those who aren’t, aren’t. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severe-hijack-about-us-borders-moved-to-pit/988949/11 "2023-08-23T02:10:10Z")
> [@Eonwe](#): > > Than “setting up death traps”? > > The moral calculus here seems deplorable Entering my country without permission strikes me as pretty fucking deplorable. I say: let the word go forth about the dangers in doing so, and then let people do the, uh, calculus about whether to play stupid games and win stupid prizes. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severe-hijack-about-us-borders-moved-to-pit/988949/12 "2023-08-23T02:13:00Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > And giving aid and comfort to illegal aliens by the million is, of course, more reprehensible still. Based on what the evidence shows, many are legal until the judges decide if deportation is warranted, one has to notice how many Republicans do want to jettison law and order to get what they want. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severe-hijack-about-us-borders-moved-to-pit/988949/13 "2023-08-23T02:14:00Z")
If you turn them all away, violently and/or otherwise, how do you tell the difference? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severe-hijack-about-us-borders-moved-to-pit/988949/14 "2023-08-23T02:14:37Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > If you turn them all away, violently and/or otherwise, how do you tell the difference? I don’t wish to turn them _all_ away. What a strange question. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severe-hijack-about-us-borders-moved-to-pit/988949/15 "2023-08-23T02:15:17Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > And giving aid and comfort to illegal aliens by the million is, of course, more reprehensible still. Well, hardly by the million, but how do undocumented (they arent "illegal) aliens hurt you? They dont want your job. They are good for America. 1. They pay into SocSec, but cant get their $$ out. This is good for SocSec. 2. They pay taxes. Not much Income tax, but sales tax, etc. 3. They do jobs Americans wont or cant do, many of which are needed. I like eating fresh fruits and vegetable grown here in the uSA. Would you rather they all be imported? 4.They tend to perform less crime- other than being undocumented, which isnt a _crime._ > [@GOP Candidates' Positions on Pardoning Trump](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-candidates-positions-on-pardoning-trump/988942/16): > > Entering my country without permission strikes me as pretty fucking deplorable. I They’d love to have permission, but racists dont like brown people. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severe-hijack-about-us-borders-moved-to-pit/988949/16 "2023-08-23T02:15:56Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Entering my country without permission strikes me as pretty fucking deplorable. I say: let the word go forth about the dangers in doing so, and then let people do the, uh, calculus about whether to play stupid games and win stupid prizes. Trump is learning that about winning stupid prizes, the point here in this thread is that you want to distract about the spectacle of most Republicans willing to play even more stupid games. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severe-hijack-about-us-borders-moved-to-pit/988949/17 "2023-08-23T02:17:37Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Well, hardly by the million, but how do undocumented (they arent "illegal) aliens hurt you? I didn’t claim they are hurting me. Or helping me. I say they’re here _without permission._ I say they’re doing this _without consent._ I say they’re _breaking the law._ That, to me, suffices. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severe-hijack-about-us-borders-moved-to-pit/988949/18 "2023-08-23T02:18:40Z")
_Tis is not a fucking game This is a situation where refugees are risking their lives trying to save the lives of their families._. If our country is nothing more than “I’ve got mine-Fuck you!” Them this country has nothing, period. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severe-hijack-about-us-borders-moved-to-pit/988949/19 "2023-08-23T02:19:00Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Trump is learning that about winning stupid prizes Good! I want the law to crack down on him, _and_ on the illegal aliens. My position is consistent. Is yours? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severe-hijack-about-us-borders-moved-to-pit/988949/20 "2023-08-23T02:20:45Z")
Would you have us set up death traps for him? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severe-hijack-about-us-borders-moved-to-pit/988949.md?page=2)