# Severe Hijack, about US borders, moved to pit
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severe-hijack-about-us-borders-moved-to-pit/988949
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [August 23, 2023, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severe-hijack-about-us-borders-moved-to-pit/988949 "2023-08-23T01:52:39Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 3
### Author:  [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2023, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severe-hijack-about-us-borders-moved-to-pit/988949/41 "2023-08-23T03:21:51Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> I figure you should retract the “racist” part, too, as I genuinely despise illegal aliens of all races equally.
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPQGM5qcNm8&t=1)
You don’t know what xenophobic means, do you?
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### Author:  [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2023, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severe-hijack-about-us-borders-moved-to-pit/988949/42 "2023-08-23T03:22:14Z")
> [@Smapti](#):
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> Whose permission did your ancestors receive to enter this country? Show your work.
What, like records from Ellis Island?
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### Author:  [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2023, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severe-hijack-about-us-borders-moved-to-pit/988949/43 "2023-08-23T03:24:11Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> You don’t know what xenophobic means, do you?
I’m aware of the dictionary definition.
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### Author:  [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2023, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severe-hijack-about-us-borders-moved-to-pit/988949/44 "2023-08-23T03:24:28Z")
Ellis Island, you say?
So you’re telling me they just showed up, without permission, and demanded to be let in?
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### Author:  [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2023, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severe-hijack-about-us-borders-moved-to-pit/988949/45 "2023-08-23T03:24:53Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> What, like records from Ellis Island?
sure, sure…
> In 1907, no passports or visas were needed to enter the United States through Ellis Island. In fact, no papers were required at all.
“Pull up the ladder gents! I’m on board now!”
Asshole.
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### Author:  [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2023, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severe-hijack-about-us-borders-moved-to-pit/988949/46 "2023-08-23T03:25:41Z")
> [@Smapti](#):
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> So you’re telling me they just showed up, without permission, and demanded to be let in?
…_demanded?_ No, they didn’t _demand_ to be let in.
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### Author:  [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2023, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severe-hijack-about-us-borders-moved-to-pit/988949/47 "2023-08-23T03:26:47Z")
The important thing is that we’re acknowledging that your ancestors were dirty filthy illegal immigrants who invaded our country without permission.
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### Author:  [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2023, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severe-hijack-about-us-borders-moved-to-pit/988949/48 "2023-08-23T03:26:51Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> In 1907, no passports or visas were needed to enter the United States through Ellis Island. In fact, no papers were required at all.
So — no law was broken by those immigrants? And a law is being broken by yet other immigrants? Seems like a relevant difference.
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### Author:  [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2023, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severe-hijack-about-us-borders-moved-to-pit/988949/49 "2023-08-23T03:26:51Z")
Why don’t you go back to wherever the fuck you came from? Take your paperless ancestors with you.
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### Author:  [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2023, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severe-hijack-about-us-borders-moved-to-pit/988949/50 "2023-08-23T03:27:55Z")
Seems like shitty new laws were put in place by xenophobic assholes like you to prevent “others” from entering the same way you ancestors did.
Now fuck off.
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### Author:  [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2023, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severe-hijack-about-us-borders-moved-to-pit/988949/51 "2023-08-23T03:28:00Z")
> [@Smapti](#):
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> The important thing is that we’re acknowledging that your ancestors were dirty filthy illegal immigrants
…_illegal?_ No, that’s not acknowledged. To the best of my knowledge, what they did was _legal_. That’s, like, the _opposite_ of illegal.
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### Author:  [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2023, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severe-hijack-about-us-borders-moved-to-pit/988949/52 "2023-08-23T03:29:26Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> I’m aware of the dictionary definition.
So why did you reply to @Left_Hand_of_Dorkness like that? Only one that is not aware of what Xenophobic means would ignore that he was not referring to race there, but to the ignorant fear of foreigners.
… wanker.
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### Author:  [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2023, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severe-hijack-about-us-borders-moved-to-pit/988949/53 "2023-08-23T03:29:47Z")
Again; who gave your dirty filthy illegal ancestors permission to come to Ellis Island?
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### Author:  [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2023, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severe-hijack-about-us-borders-moved-to-pit/988949/54 "2023-08-23T03:31:46Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Seems like shitty new laws were put in place by xenophobic assholes like you to prevent “others” from entering the same way you ancestors did.
I don’t follow. Laws have been put in place to prevent others from doing all sorts of things that used to be legal, and we don’t now advocate scrapping those laws just because someone’s ancestor did it when it was legal; it used to be legal to discriminate against women, to own slaves, to do any number of things — and the fact that someone’s ancestors legally did that stuff then doesn’t mean we should let other people do it now; it’s simply and only irrelevant.
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### Author:  [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2023, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severe-hijack-about-us-borders-moved-to-pit/988949/55 "2023-08-23T03:33:57Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> So why did you reply to @Left_Hand_of_Dorkness like that? Only one that is not aware of what Xenophobic means would ignore that he was not referring to race there, but to the ignorant fear of foreigners.
I replied that way because he said “you’re a stain on our nation, the sort of jackbooted racist shitwad”.
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### Author:  [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2023, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severe-hijack-about-us-borders-moved-to-pit/988949/56 "2023-08-23T03:34:47Z")
> [@Smapti](#):
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> Again; who gave your dirty filthy illegal ancestors
Again, to the best of my knowledge, they committed no _illegal_ acts. It’s odd that you keep insisting otherwise; you keep making _obviously_ incorrect statements.
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### Author:  [@glowacks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glowacks)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2023, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severe-hijack-about-us-borders-moved-to-pit/988949/57 "2023-08-23T03:36:57Z")
Showing up and requesting asylum is not illegal. Do you wish it was?
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### Author:  [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2023, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severe-hijack-about-us-borders-moved-to-pit/988949/58 "2023-08-23T03:39:05Z")
I don’t believe I wish it were, no.
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### Author:  [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2023, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severe-hijack-about-us-borders-moved-to-pit/988949/59 "2023-08-23T03:42:53Z")
You’ve indicated that you presume all “illegal immigrants” to be guilty.
I’m merely applying the same standard to your ancestors.
Also, I’ll note that you do not object to their being described as dirty and filthy.
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### Author:  [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2023, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severe-hijack-about-us-borders-moved-to-pit/988949/60 "2023-08-23T03:43:53Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> And giving aid and comfort
I’m surprised nobody has yet jumped on this phrasing. I mean everyone knows what the next three words that follow this are and where it comes from, right?
> **[Aid and Comfort to the Enemy](https://law.justia.com/constitution/us/article-3/44-aid-and-comfort-to-the-enemy.html)**
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> , of the US Constitution: Analysis and Interpretation
So ‘illegals’ are the enemy of the United States and aiding and comforting them is treason, da comrade?
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