# severed carotid artery

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severed-carotid-artery/603074>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [November 16, 2011, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severed-carotid-artery/603074 "2011-11-16T00:24:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![Lukeinva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lukeinva/32/17872_2.png) [@Lukeinva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lukeinva)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2011, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severed-carotid-artery/603074/41 "2011-11-16T22:09:28Z")

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I was at that game. Malarchuk skated out of the crease with his hand on his neck and blood spurting 5 feet above his head. It was f’n gruesome. The trainer sprinted out and pressed on it with one hand waving frantically for help.

Next day the paper said it was his Jugular - which I believe is under the chin. The carotid is on the temple (I think). They also said you have 15 minutes before you will succumb. Richard Zednik had a similar injury and he skated himself to the bench.

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2011, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severed-carotid-artery/603074/42 "2011-11-16T22:32:07Z")

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> [@zoid](#):
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> Did he live?

Of course! I was there to attend to him! 😃

Afterwards, I had the inmate workers don protective gear and clean the room. Their reports to the inmate grapevine certainly engendered a greater degree of respect and deference from my patients ever after. 😉

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2011, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severed-carotid-artery/603074/43 "2011-11-16T22:33:51Z")

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> [@Lukeinva](#):
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> The carotid is on the temple (I think).

Sorry, no. The carotids run from the upper chest through the neck and into the skull.

At the temple you’ll find the temporal artery.

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**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2011, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severed-carotid-artery/603074/44 "2011-11-16T22:54:39Z")

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> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> At the temple you’ll find the temporal artery.

What a coincidence!

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2011, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severed-carotid-artery/603074/45 "2011-11-16T22:58:35Z")

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> [@picunurse](#):
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> Wouldn’t the pressure from the adjacent carotid cause pulsation?

I don’t think so. I’ve done blood draws from the femoral vein, which is right next to the femoral artery, and the venous blood didn’t pulse at all.

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**Author:** ![isaiahrobinson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/85e7bf/32.png) [@isaiahrobinson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/isaiahrobinson)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2011, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severed-carotid-artery/603074/46 "2011-11-16T23:34:20Z")

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> [@Laggard](#):
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> That makes me wonder from an evolutionary stand point why this area is not protected more. That something that can kill you in minutes if cut is not protected more seems weird.

We’ve discussed this before. The answer that made most sense was that the body has to have such major arteries running up into the head because the brain needs such a major supply of blood, but that adding some sort of “armor” around the neck itself would probably restrict neck movement too much, and make us less capable of hunting, among other things. So instead the optimum combination seems to be leaving the neck fairly open to allow for a good range of movement, but also allowing us to protect it by lifting the shoulders and dipping the chin, and obviously with our arms.

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**Author:** ![Laggard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Laggard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laggard)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severed-carotid-artery/603074/47 "2011-11-17T00:12:21Z")

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> [@isaiahrobinson](#):
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> We’ve discussed this before. The answer that made most sense was that the body has to have such major arteries running up into the head because the brain needs such a major supply of blood, but that adding some sort of “armor” around the neck itself would probably restrict neck movement too much, and make us less capable of hunting, among other things. So instead the optimum combination seems to be leaving the neck fairly open to allow for a good range of movement, but also allowing us to protect it by lifting the shoulders and dipping the chin, and obviously with our arms.

Thanks! Perhaps though they would be more protected further inside the neck? Perhaps running along the spinal column?

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**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severed-carotid-artery/603074/48 "2011-11-17T01:26:58Z")

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> [@Laggard](#):
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> Thanks! Perhaps though they would be more protected further inside the neck? Perhaps running along the spinal column?

We should write that up as an RFC so it can be considered for inclusion in the next revision.

Also: testicles in a less-convenient-to-kick location.

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**Author:** ![Hbns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hbns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hbns)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severed-carotid-artery/603074/49 "2011-11-17T03:52:01Z")

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> [@KneadToKnow](#):
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> Also: testicles in a less-convenient-to-kick location.

Amen to that brother! 😃

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**Author:** ![Namkcalb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c89c15/32.png) [@Namkcalb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Namkcalb)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severed-carotid-artery/603074/50 "2011-11-17T04:48:03Z")

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When I saw the title, I was worried this thread was started by someone who had just cut themself…

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severed-carotid-artery/603074/51 "2011-11-17T05:17:20Z")

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Severed cartoid artery. Need answer f

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severed-carotid-artery/603074/52 "2011-11-17T14:29:57Z")

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> [@KneadToKnow](#):
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> We should write that up as an RFC so it can be considered for inclusion in the next revision.
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> Also: testicles in a less-convenient-to-kick location.

Hollywood would never agree.

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**Author:** ![Laggard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Laggard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laggard)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severed-carotid-artery/603074/53 "2011-11-17T18:08:10Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Hollywood would never agree.

Or frat boys looking for You Tube fame.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/severed-carotid-artery/603074/54 "2011-11-18T18:05:02Z")

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> [@KneadToKnow](#):
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> Also: testicles in a less-convenient-to-kick location.

Eh - the current location facilitates cooling, and is reasonably defensible - a simple twist or dodge puts one’s leg between an assailant and the family jewels. Not a perfect defense, but enough that a swift kick to the groin is easier joked about than done.

It’s worth considering that, ultimately, there are all _sorts_ of modifications one could imagine that would make the human body more rugged; for example, what if the rib cage extended down to protect the entirety of the torso? That would certainly make humans better able to _take_ a hit - but we’d also be slower and less flexible, and thus less able to avoid the hit in the first place.

In fact, that’s probably a good point in general: Some animals evolved with a defensive strategy oriented around absorbing or deflecting damage harmlessly. (Turtles would be the classic example.) Humans, however, evolved with a defensive strategy oriented around damage _avoidance_ - a blow from a tiger will kill or maim us, but we’re tall enough, fast enough (over a distance), and smart enough to avoid that blow in the first place. It’s not a perfect strategy - if you’re sick, foolish, or unlucky, the tiger will still get into striking range, and there’s not a lot you can do at this point unless you’re armed. But history clearly demonstrates that, most of the time, _avoiding_ rather than _surviving_ punishing blows is a good-enough strategy. We’re here, after all, while most tiger species are endangered.

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