# sex and sharing responsibility **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [January 15, 2001, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-and-sharing-responsibility/50202 "2001-01-15T20:29:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Badtz\_Maru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e36b37/32.png) [@Badtz\_Maru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Badtz_Maru)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2001, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-and-sharing-responsibility/50202/81 "2001-01-25T05:40:28Z")
I know how children are created - they happen when women don’t get abortions. It’s a woman’s choice, should be the woman’s responsibility, unless there is some kind of deception that led to the pregnancy. If abortion is ever made illegal (God forbid) then I will fully support forcing men to pay child support, even if they can show they tried to prevent pregnancy. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2001, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-and-sharing-responsibility/50202/82 "2001-01-25T16:00:05Z")
You’re _defining_ giving birth as not having an abortion? Wow. I’ll just have to ponder that one for a minute… For me, going to work is not waking up in the morning and taking the bus. It’s not getting hit by a truck while I wait at the bus stop… So, **Badtz** , you would be in favor of mandatory child support if abortion were illegal? What about women who live in areas without an abortion clinic? Pro-life nuts have shut them down in a lot of places. ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2001, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-and-sharing-responsibility/50202/83 "2001-01-25T16:09:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Badtz Maru \* > \*\*I know how children are created - they happen when women don’t get abortions. \*\* Really? Since May of 1994, I’ve neither had an abortion, nor given birth to a child. Perhaps you need to work on your stance again. ---
**Author:** ![bobo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f9ae1b/32.png) [@bobo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobo)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2001, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-and-sharing-responsibility/50202/84 "2001-01-25T17:43:05Z")
There is one way that we men can have lots of casual sex without the risk of pregnency, it’s called a Vasectomy. It’s done on an outpatient basis now, local anestetic, a small incision, snip snip, and you’re safe. It’s significantly less unpleasant than an aborition. And before you say something like “but I may want to have kids _some_ day”, in most cases the procedure is reversable, especially if you tell the doc before hand that you may want it reversed some day. I’m going in a couple weeks, any other guys want to come along, maybe we can get a group rate? ---
**Author:** ![Badtz\_Maru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e36b37/32.png) [@Badtz\_Maru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Badtz_Maru)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2001, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-and-sharing-responsibility/50202/85 "2001-01-26T08:20:37Z")
> [@](#): > > So, Badtz, you would be in favor of mandatory child support if abortion were illegal? What about women who live in areas without an abortion clinic? Pro-life nuts have shut them down in a lot of places. Unfortunately it is true that they are not always readily available. I doubt there is anywhere in the country that isn’t a $35 bus ride from one, though. That’s not much (I have recently been looking into how much it costs to have a baby). My ‘where babies come from’ response was just another way of looking at it - and a fairly true response, as well. Having an abortion or not is the last decision that has a bearing on whether or not a child is born. Having sex does not directly lead to children being born, nor does getting pregnant. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-and-sharing-responsibility/50202.md?page=4)