# Sex Ch-ch-ch-changes

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-ch-ch-ch-changes/515085>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [October 25, 2009, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-ch-ch-ch-changes/515085 "2009-10-25T20:25:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-ch-ch-ch-changes/515085/41 "2009-10-26T05:01:14Z")

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Not for a year without a much shorter trial time first. Maybe a night, a week, or a month.

I’d settle for a month. I’d want to see what a pain a period would be before I’d sign up for a year of them.

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-ch-ch-ch-changes/515085/42 "2009-10-26T05:15:03Z")

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I’d love to be a woman for one year . . . on the condition that I also become younger, so I can have a baby. I’d have to get pregnant and have the baby all within the year, otherwise . . . penis ensues.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-ch-ch-ch-changes/515085/43 "2009-10-26T06:18:34Z")

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So if I’m female for a year and have sex with a guy; when I revert back to being a male does that mean I’ve had a gay experience?

In anycase I’m opting out. A year is way too long. A day maybe but not a year.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-ch-ch-ch-changes/515085/44 "2009-10-26T09:49:58Z")

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> [@Covered\_In\_Bees](#):
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> I don’t want to “look” like I had sex surgery. I’m talking magically looking feminine. If I’m going to magically (because that’s what it would take in real life to change me, magic) then I want to magically look like a natural female. No manly facial structure or shoulders. If I’m going to be a female, I want to be feminine damn it!

From my extremely-uninformed corner, that seems to be a frequent trait in MtoF transexuals: they’re more feminine than your average “biological female” (I think that’s the correct term). If it isn’t, I’m sure one of our better-informed Dopers will correct my misperception.

I wouldn’t mind a temporary switch IF it involved my mother being utterly convinced that I’d always been a Javier. She’s been known to say that I don’t qualify as acceptable spawn due to being female - I doubly disqualify myself by not being feminine enough (since I happened to be born missing an essential part, I should have been a Pink Goddamned Princess and totally dedicated to Making Mommy Happy except whenever I was busy making her a Proud Grandma). I’d like to see how she treated Javier; my bet is that Middlebro would be the one getting the biggest amount of grief from her (he’s the one who thinks the least like Dad, therefore with me being male he’d be the one she’d be less happy with). The people who’ve given me most grief for being female are my parents, salesmen and HR-women - the rest of the world has been known to occasionally get uppity but fold when barked at 😛

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**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-ch-ch-ch-changes/515085/45 "2009-10-26T10:14:56Z")

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> [@Lamia](#):
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> Who says you have to? 😃

Exactly. Nobody promised they’d be an ATTRACTIVE female.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-ch-ch-ch-changes/515085/46 "2009-10-26T12:21:02Z")

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I’d go for the Male-to-Female One Year Lease – How could you not want to see how it feels on the other team.

Of course, I’d want to persuade Pepper Mill to get the corresponding lease. It’s no fun traveling alone.

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**Author:** ![badbadrubberpiggy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/57b2e6/32.png) [@badbadrubberpiggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/badbadrubberpiggy)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-ch-ch-ch-changes/515085/47 "2009-10-26T13:18:42Z")

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> [@Covered\_In\_Bees](#):
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> I voted for a male-to-female one year lease.
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> My vote comes with a few conditions though:
> 
> I don’t want to “look” like I had sex surgery. I’m talking magically looking feminine. If I’m going to magically (because that’s what it would take in real life to change me, magic) then I want to magically look like a natural female. No manly facial structure or shoulders. If I’m going to be a female, I want to be feminine damn it!
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> Also, I want to think like a female also. It might be very insightful to know what being crazy feels like. Would also help me relate to females afterwards, as I’d have a unique look into their psychosis.
> 
> That’s all for now.

Up till now, I thought you were a woman. Seriously.

I didn’t answer the poll, because while I’d try it if it could work for a short time, I wouldn’t want to be stuck like that for a year.  
What if I hated being a guy?

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-ch-ch-ch-changes/515085/48 "2009-10-26T13:26:07Z")

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> [@Covered\_In\_Bees](#):
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> It was meant to be tongue-in-cheek. Not all women are that crazy. 😃

I’ve often wondered what it’s like to be ugly, hairy and dumb, but it passes.

Oh crap, I’m opening myself up to too many jokes.

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-ch-ch-ch-changes/515085/49 "2009-10-26T13:28:51Z")

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NFW. I’ll stay a woman, thank you very much, even with my menstruation and craziness and whatever else! Fact is, I really like being a woman, and my mental gender lines up with my body gender, so stick a fork in me - I’m done!

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-ch-ch-ch-changes/515085/50 "2009-10-26T13:31:57Z")

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I’d do the one-year switch, assuming that I’d be a woman of the same age (mid-50s), same overall good health (very good, thanks), and same approximate level of attractiveness (middlin’) as I currently have as a guy. And **Napier** ’s caveat that “everybody else accepts the fact of the change without getting weird.”

Maybe a year would be too long a time, but if given the opportunity, I’d rather get to try it out for what might be too long a time, than not get to try it at all.

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**Author:** ![Antigen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/848f3c/32.png) [@Antigen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antigen)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-ch-ch-ch-changes/515085/51 "2009-10-26T13:45:20Z")

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I’d take a week-long option, but only if my man does it too so we can properly share the experience.

A year is too long. Let me try it out a while first. I’m not sure I’ll \*enjoy \*having an unruly appendage with a mind of its own. I don’t want to be stuck with it for a whole year! Would I be keeping my brain, or would I be transformed completely and it’d be like I was always male? Will I need to learn how to shave and how to adjust my junk and how to burp the alphabet, or will that be part of the switch?

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-ch-ch-ch-changes/515085/52 "2009-10-26T13:49:52Z")

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> [@Shakes](#):
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> So if I’m female for a year and have sex with a guy; when I revert back to being a male does that mean I’ve had a gay experience?

I’m assuming that, mentally, you retain your own sexual identity; so it would have been a gay experience all along.

Or am I wrong? Would I just have a female body for a year, or would my actual identity change, so I would actually think of myself as female? That would be interesting.

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**Author:** ![Translucent\_Daydream](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/translucent_daydream/32/16170_2.png) [@Translucent\_Daydream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Translucent_Daydream)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-ch-ch-ch-changes/515085/53 "2009-10-26T14:14:24Z")

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> [@Covered\_In\_Bees](#):
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> I voted for a male-to-female one year lease.
> 
> My vote comes with a few conditions though:
> 
> I don’t want to “look” like I had sex surgery. I’m talking magically looking feminine. If I’m going to magically (because that’s what it would take in real life to change me, magic) then I want to magically look like a natural female. No manly facial structure or shoulders. If I’m going to be a female, I want to be feminine damn it!
> 
> Also, I want to think like a female also. It might be very insightful to know what being crazy feels like. Would also help me relate to females afterwards, as I’d have a unique look into their psychosis.
> 
> That’s all for now.

AAAAAH… you are going to try to play the “What Women Want” angle on this.

Nice…

😃

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**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-ch-ch-ch-changes/515085/54 "2009-10-26T14:34:00Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> I’m not gay, and I don’t have the slightest interest in experiencing a female perspective. I have a wife and three kids. What the hell would I want to turn into a woman for?

You’d be able to find your keys and your socks, and you could also ask for directions.

🙂

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**Author:** ![badbadrubberpiggy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/57b2e6/32.png) [@badbadrubberpiggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/badbadrubberpiggy)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-ch-ch-ch-changes/515085/55 "2009-10-26T15:34:40Z")

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> [@panache45](#):
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> I’m assuming that, mentally, you retain your own sexual identity; so it would have been a gay experience all along.
> 
> Or am I wrong? Would I just have a female body for a year, or would my actual identity change, so I would actually think of myself as female? That would be interesting.

Assuming I had a choice, I’d want to be turned into a straight guy, since I’m a straight woman now.

I’m thinking that if I retained my own identity completely, being in a male body would just feel wrong, so it wouldn’t be that much fun. There would definitely need to be a mental component, as well.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-ch-ch-ch-changes/515085/56 "2009-10-26T16:16:48Z")

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One result of such switching would be to make sure guys really appreciate why women light not like being told to have happy periods:

> **[Any Women Who Enjoy Having Periods](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=537242)**
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> Are there any women here who enjoy having periods?

That suggests that one week wouldn’t be enough – you’d want at least a month’s tour, to see all the sights.

I’d also be very interested to see, if Pepper and I switched simulateously, if _she_ could find the clitoris when the shoe was on the other foot.

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**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-ch-ch-ch-changes/515085/57 "2009-10-26T16:40:18Z")

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> [@badbadrubberpiggy](#):
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> Assuming I had a choice, I’d want to be turned into a straight guy, since I’m a straight woman now.

Why? If you’re not attracted to women _now_, why would you see being attracted to women after the change as a good thing?

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-ch-ch-ch-changes/515085/58 "2009-10-26T17:03:00Z")

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> [@runcible\_spoon](#):
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> Can I get a one-year lease with an option to buy? I mean, how do I know being female wouldn’t rock my proverbial socks off? I think it’d be interesting, at the least.

This would be far better than any of the choices, in my mind.

Although the best, to my mind, would be the ability to swap at will. I do it mentally, might as well have a bodily ability to match!

In the absence of those, I chose the permanent change. (Although after quite a bit of thought - figured, if I was going to go for it at all, I’d rather go for the whole shebang, if the only options are ‘forever’ and ‘a year’.)

I’d also, given the permanence, actually like it to be ‘retroactive’ - as far as anyone except me and whoever granted me this boon were concerned, I was always female, all photos of me when I was younger changed, etc…

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**Author:** ![badbadrubberpiggy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/57b2e6/32.png) [@badbadrubberpiggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/badbadrubberpiggy)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-ch-ch-ch-changes/515085/59 "2009-10-26T17:07:35Z")

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> [@Grumman](#):
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> Why? If you’re not attracted to women _now_, why would you see being attracted to women after the change as a good thing?

Because it’s something different than what I am used to, which seems like the point of this whole hypothetical experiment.

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**Author:** ![Kaio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c68b51/32.png) [@Kaio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaio)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-ch-ch-ch-changes/515085/60 "2009-10-26T17:37:02Z")

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> [@Antigen](#):
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> A year is too long. Let me try it out a while first. I’m not sure I’ll \*enjoy \*having an unruly appendage with a mind of its own. I don’t want to be stuck with it for a whole year!

Ha… I was just having a very similar conversation with a couple guy friends a short time ago. Penises are silly-looking (and they agreed) – their only real advantage is as a “lust-meter” if your partner has one. It’s nice to have that gauge for your partner’s interest, true, but I rather like being able to opt for “stealth mode” when I want to. (And believe me, if I want you to know that I’m lusty, **you will know,** and I don’t need a penis to show you that.)

In the spirit of adventure, I’m trying to motivate myself to be curious about it, but I agree with others that a year is too long, to start with. Plus I’m just not sure that I’d actually learn anything that I don’t already know or can’t suss out from observation. People will treat me differently if I’m a guy… but I already know that.

The only thing I’m really curious about is if there is really any truth behind that stereotype that men and women “think differently” along gender lines (as opposed to “thinking differently” because they are different _people_). But I don’t think a sample size of one is going to tell me anything.

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