# "Sex & Drugs & Rock and Roll"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-drugs-rock-and-roll/726769>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 2, 2015, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-drugs-rock-and-roll/726769 "2015-08-02T00:54:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2015, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-drugs-rock-and-roll/726769/1 "2015-08-02T00:54:20Z")

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The TV show on FX. I like the subject matter and the characters but…

…the rock and roll name dropping is over the top. They could cut out 80% of it and it would be the best part of the show.

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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2015, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-drugs-rock-and-roll/726769/2 "2015-08-02T01:51:03Z")

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I’ve only seen the first two episodes and don’t get what you mean by name dropping. Sure they mention that Flash is Lady Gaga’s lead guitarist and in the second episode Johnny Rock does a long rave about how crappy a lot of real life songwriters became when they stopped using drugs, but how can he do that without using their names?

“David Bowie has been without drugs since 1973.”

“Without talent too!”

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2015, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-drugs-rock-and-roll/726769/3 "2015-08-02T02:10:34Z")

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> [@don\_t\_ask](#):
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> “David Bowie has been without drugs since 1973.”
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> “Without talent too!”

I have no idea what this show is, and the above exchange guarantees that I don’t care to know.

(Besides, surely Bowie was coked to the gills during his Thin White Duke period in the mid '70s.)

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**Author:** ![Hail\_Ants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dc4da7/32.png) [@Hail\_Ants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hail_Ants)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2015, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-drugs-rock-and-roll/726769/4 "2015-08-02T04:27:35Z")

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> [@don\_t\_ask](#):
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> I’ve only seen the first two episodes and don’t get what you mean by name dropping. Sure they mention that Flash is Lady Gaga’s lead guitarist and in the second episode Johnny Rock does a long rave about how crappy a lot of real life songwriters became when they stopped using drugs, but how can he do that without using their names?
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> “David Bowie has been without drugs since 1973.”
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> “Without talent too!”

He didn’t say '73 he said '78, then he said, “…and what has he done since then?! _Let’s Dance_?! Let’s Not!_!_” The show is pure Denis Leary so if you do/don’t like him you’ll have your answer as to whether you like it.

And the show is supposed to be about a real band that was a flash in the pan around 1990, so it pretends to exist in the real world. This also gives Denis Leary the opportunity to trash real ‘celebrities’, and so far he’s been dead on with it!_!_😃

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2015, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-drugs-rock-and-roll/726769/5 "2015-08-02T19:26:20Z")

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Are they using [this tune as their theme song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFOLpkDKz7A)? (Some lyrics NSFW, so don’t crank it up and start rocking out in your cubicle, eh; in case yer wondering, it’s a song called [_Stop_ by **Psychotica**](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFOLpkDKz7A), a mid-90s flash-in-the-pan band that broke up and then reformed some years back.)

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2015, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-drugs-rock-and-roll/726769/6 "2015-08-02T19:49:37Z")

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A better choice is a [song that actually uses the phrase as a title.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TBSqS4yMrM)

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**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2015, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-drugs-rock-and-roll/726769/7 "2015-08-02T21:39:19Z")

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> [@Hail\_Ants](#):
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> He didn’t say '73 he said '78, then he said, “…and what has he done since then?! _Let’s Dance_?! Let’s Not!_!_” The show is pure Denis Leary so if you do/don’t like him you’ll have your answer as to whether you like it…

_Scary Monsters {and Super Creeps}_ came in out 1980.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2015, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-drugs-rock-and-roll/726769/8 "2015-08-02T22:57:45Z")

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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> A better choice is a [song that actually uses the phrase as a title.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TBSqS4yMrM)

Yeah, that’s what the thread title got me thinking of…

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**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2015, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-drugs-rock-and-roll/726769/9 "2015-08-03T02:33:28Z")

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Previous thread with a few posts.

> **[New FX Denis Leary show - Sex&Drugs&RockNRoll](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=763484)**
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> …two episodes in, wife and I think it’s pretty funny so far. There have been some great jokes about Bowie, Lennon, Keith Richards… Anyone watching?

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2015, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-drugs-rock-and-roll/726769/10 "2015-08-03T03:09:52Z")

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> [@Hail\_Ants](#):
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> He didn’t say '73 he said '78, then he said, “…and what has he done since then?! _Let’s Dance_?! Let’s Not!_!_” The show is pure Denis Leary so if you do/don’t like him you’ll have your answer as to whether you like it.
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> And the show is supposed to be about a real band that was a flash in the pan around 1990, so it pretends to exist in the real world. This also gives Denis Leary the opportunity to trash real ‘celebrities’, and so far he’s been dead on with it!_!_😃

A lot of it comes from Leary’s standup comedy routines. It’s not the strongest part of the writing, and I think John Corbett as Flash is one of the best and underutilized talents on the show. They could stand to let more of the humour evolve organically, like it did on Rescue Me. Strong ensemble performance there, and the names dropping was at minimum. The show has many of the right elements but hasn’t quite connected yet the way I hoped it would. Maybe Leary is just more believable as Tommy Gavin or Mike on The Job.
