# Sex scenes in movies (non-pornographic)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 15, 2004, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-scenes-in-movies-non-pornographic/255221 "2004-07-15T05:10:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![MidnightRadio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@MidnightRadio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MidnightRadio)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-scenes-in-movies-non-pornographic/255221/21 "2004-07-16T01:37:55Z")

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> [@don't ask](#):
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> …as well as the French movies _Romance_ and _Baise-moi_.

I’ve seen both of these. _Romance_ was okay, but nothing special (it didn’t help that the heroine looks _just_ like one of my cousins. I thought _Baise-moi_ was just awful.

> [@Khadaji](#):
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> I had heard that Kim Bassinger and her husband did it for real one of the movies - maybe The Getaway.

I’m sure it was _The Getaway_ you heard this about; my high shool drama teacher told us this, too. I have my doubts, though.

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**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-scenes-in-movies-non-pornographic/255221/22 "2004-07-16T02:14:45Z")

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In general with movies, nothing you don’t actually see happen on camera really happened, and some of what you _do_ see happen on camera didn’t really happen either. So unless there’s an actual penetration shot, penetration almost certainly did not occur no matter what it _looks_ like the actors are doing.

> [@don't ask](#):
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> Some fairly recent movies featuring actual sex acts were _Intimacy_ starring Kerry Fox.

I haven’t seen this, but isn’t the on-screen sex act a blowjob? So not “real sex” according to the OP’s standards, although admittedly an actual sex act all the same.

The “blowee” in **Intimacy** is Mark Rylance, better known as a Shakespearian and artistic director at the Shakespeare’s Globe Theatre in London. I saw him in **Twelfth Night** there and was much impressed. As I was walking back across the bridge with my roommate I said, “He was really good. I wonder if he’s been in any movies? I’d like to see more of him.”

After I got home I looked him up on the IMDB and learned that if I saw his most recent film I’d see much more of Rylance than I’d had in mind! :o

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**Author:** ![Billdo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/billdo/32/315_2.png) [@Billdo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Billdo)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-scenes-in-movies-non-pornographic/255221/23 "2004-07-16T02:47:45Z")

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I’ve heard an interview with [Russ Meyer](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000540/) where he said that in some of the sex scenes in his movies, the actors actually were having sex. I don’t recall any specific details, though.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-scenes-in-movies-non-pornographic/255221/24 "2004-07-16T03:16:10Z")

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> [@Otto](#):
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> Linda Fiorentino’s [nudity rider](http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/fiorentino1.html).
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> A page from Diane Lane’s [contract](http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0511041lane4.html) which requires prior written consent for any nude scene or body double sex scene.
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> I think someone should come up with a better name than “nudity rider.” It sounds like a very naughty hero of the Old West.

I dunno, unless an actress could pull a couple million eyeballs to the screen, I’d ignore such a rider and get somebody just as talented, but less well known and more willing to do a nude scene (or let a double do one for her). Fiorentino and Lane probably would have clout on a B-list film, but I can’t see why an A-list filmmaker would let an actress on their level limit them like that. Unless there was no nudity planned for the actress’ character, in which case it’s a moot point.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-scenes-in-movies-non-pornographic/255221/25 "2004-07-16T03:28:16Z")

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From the sound of it, Meg Ryan did some nude sex scenes in [In The Cut](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0199626/) that would have looked right at home in a Skinamax flick.

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**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-scenes-in-movies-non-pornographic/255221/26 "2004-07-16T05:02:18Z")

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> [@don't ask](#):
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> Some fairly recent movies featuring actual sex acts were _Intimacy_ starring Kerry Fox. It received generally good reviews and is well worth watching. as well as the French movies _Romance_ and _Baise-moi_,

Just for the record, is it “official” that the sex acts were real? Did the actors flat out say “yes, we really had sex when they were filming”?

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**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-scenes-in-movies-non-pornographic/255221/27 "2004-07-16T07:51:58Z")

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> [@Ranchoth](#):
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> Just for the record, is it “official” that the sex acts were real? Did the actors flat out say “yes, we really had sex when they were filming”?

Apparently everyone involved with **Intimacy** (including the actress’s boyfriend) has been open about the fact that the blow job scene really involved Fox’s real mouth on Rylance’s real penis. Whether one considers that “really having sex” or not depends on your definition of the term. I haven’t seen the movie, but from what I’ve heard I suspect that Fox wasn’t doing much _with_ her mouth, and I’m fairly certain that she didn’t bring Rylance to orgasm.

The fact that **Intimacy** contained a (more or less) “real sex act” was fairly big movie news and easy to confirm, so I’m suspicious of most claims about movies where the story _isn’t_ official. If it’s true, there’s really no reason to hide it. The story is worth some free publicity, and if the actors weren’t shy about having sex for a movie scene in the first place they have little reason to worry about the public knowing it wasn’t completely faked.

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**Author:** ![Fern\_Forest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71c47a/32.png) [@Fern\_Forest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fern_Forest)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2004, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-scenes-in-movies-non-pornographic/255221/28 "2004-07-16T10:33:17Z")

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["Romance"](http://www.salon.com/ent/movies/int/1999/09/17/breillat/print.html)had Rocco Siffredi one of the biggest male porno actors out of Europe.

I remember the controvery around “Baise-Moi.” I bet you could still find news stories from them. Hmm, looks like  
[“Baise-Moi”](http://www.bbc.co.uk/films/2002/04/17/baise_moi_2002_review.shtml) used porn stars too.

Searching in Google groups also turned up a lot of stuff. Like in rec.arts.movies.reviews  
I see we haven’t addressed whether there are any requirements for actors who engage in sexual activities on film. I highly doubt there are since it’s not common. Probably the actor groups don’t want to give any legitimacy to this stuff by making any regulations. So I assume it’s all left up to the people involved and what they’re confortable with.

From the google groups review of “Intimacy” it looks like she just took his limp penis into her mouth and sucked on it a little bit and only pretended to do everything else. The screencaps don’t appear to show any protection at all.

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**Author:** ![Beauty\_Personified](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e480ec/32.png) [@Beauty\_Personified](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beauty_Personified)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2004, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-scenes-in-movies-non-pornographic/255221/29 "2004-07-18T14:23:28Z")

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Just for the record, in the adult film industry, two versions of films are sometimes made - one hardcore and one softcore. The hardcore scenes obviously involve actual intercourse, while no actual intercourse may be going on during the softcore scenes. And, even in films with hardcore action, some of the more softcore scenes don’t actually involve intercourse.

Many times it’s the actresses who decide whether actual intercourse will be happening in a scene where penetration isn’t being shown. Afterall, with the schedule these actresses are on, they don’t want to wear themselves out. And the guys can only do so much before they have to “reload”.

Anyhoo…

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**Author:** ![Manduck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manduck/32/256_2.png) [@Manduck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manduck)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2004, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-scenes-in-movies-non-pornographic/255221/30 "2004-07-20T03:12:31Z")

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> [@Otto](#):
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> I think someone should come up with a better name than “nudity rider.” It sounds like a very naughty hero of the Old West.

It sounds like a **BAND NAME** is what it sounds like.

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