# Sex with animals **URL:** \ **Category:** Cecil's Columns/Staff Reports\ **Created:** [April 12, 2002, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-with-animals/103263 "2002-04-12T17:04:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![hammerbach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/73ab20/32.png) [@hammerbach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hammerbach)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2002, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-with-animals/103263/41 "2002-04-16T05:20:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Chronos \* > \*\*…If animals are incapable of consent, then all animal sex acts would be rape, regardless of whether the other partner is a human or of the animal’s own species. Is it any less morally reprehensible for a dog and a bitch to have sex, than it is for a dog and a woman? \*\* I don’t think animals are capable of moral reason, either… However, human beings are capable and therefore responsible for thier acts in a way that animals are not. ---
**Author:** ![Terence\_Fox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9d8465/32.png) [@Terence\_Fox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terence_Fox)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2002, 9:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-with-animals/103263/42 "2002-04-16T09:30:26Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by hammerbach \* > \*\* > > I don’t think animals are capable of moral reason, either… However, human beings are capable and therefore responsible for thier acts in a way that animals are not. \*\* Well duh. Animals don’t make meaningless abstract distinctions, such as ‘morals’. For them, ‘right’ and ‘what comes naturally’ are one and the same. And yes, it is true that the human must take responsibility in a zoophilic relationship -as any good zoophile knows, he/she must always put the animal’s needs before his/her own, and that all intercourse which takes place must be an act of love and sharing of intimacy. Anyone who claims to be a zoophile but does not follow a similar code of conduct for dealing with their animal/s is not so much a bestialist as a rapist. ---
**Author:** ![pati12812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b77776/32.png) [@pati12812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pati12812)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2002, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-with-animals/103263/43 "2002-04-16T10:52:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*why you think something is ‘wrong’. \*\* forget ‘wrong’ it is yucky!!! we’re talking lower life form here!!! ewwww…Who’d want to have that sort of contact with a creature who would sit & eat shit all day if it could…Not only that, they lick their own buttholes, and anyone elses too for that matter…They smell most of the time, and lie around on the dirty ground…and clean their fur with their tongue & pick their fleas out with their teeth…Not to mention they are covered in fur…I mean oooh baby, gimme some of that…What do you say in the act? “good boy” or “give it to me fido” Do you have to give it a doggie treat if you cum? Ewwww, what if it has some disease??? Aww christ, we are really lowering ourselves as humans if we admit this sort of thing is common & god forbid accept it as a personal preference…C’mon people, you missed the part in biology that we distinguished ourselves from the animals, not tried to mesh & mingle with them!!!😕 :mad: :o :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Flyfisher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e480ec/32.png) [@Flyfisher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flyfisher)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2002, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-with-animals/103263/44 "2002-04-16T13:25:40Z")
Listen folks, if you happen to be afflicted with a “bovine preference”, you happen to think your “pet” has a sweet ass or your down at the pound trolling for a “sampler” … hey jump on it. But, most people I’d wager don’t want to know nor hear about your activities. And hopefully the folks with these animal interest will “love” naught but their four legged butties. And since the nature of things doesn’t allow cross spieces breeding, they’ll help thin out the shallow end of the gene pool. ---
**Author:** ![RiverRunner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/977dab/32.png) [@RiverRunner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RiverRunner)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2002, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-with-animals/103263/45 "2002-04-16T14:48:55Z")
> [@](#): > > Well duh. Animals don’t make meaningless abstract distinctions, such as ‘morals’. For them, ‘right’ and ‘what comes naturally’ are one and the same. > And yes, it is true that the human must take responsibility in a zoophilic relationship -as any good zoophile knows, he/she must always put the animal’s needs before his/her own, . . . That’s fascinating. In one post we learn that: a) Morality is a “meaningless, abstract disctinction” and b) Humans “must take responsibility,” “must put the animal’s needs before his own,” must do this and that also. Why is that? My initial response would be that it is the poster considers it the right thing to do, but since morality is “meaningless” that can’t be the case. Methinks there’s something amiss here. RR ---
**Author:** ![anyrae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e495f1/32.png) [@anyrae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrae)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2002, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-with-animals/103263/46 "2002-04-16T15:42:32Z")
Something else to consider, it seems to me most of this abuse is revolving around animals that are dependant on humans. That is why I believe that this is more an act of dominating and taking advantage of something than it is about finding animals sexy. You never hear of someone doing this to an alligator or a rhino. Is this because they aren’t cute and cuddly or because they can raise an objection and put up a fight? ---
**Author:** ![anyrae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e495f1/32.png) [@anyrae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrae)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2002, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-with-animals/103263/47 "2002-04-16T15:43:42Z")
Oh wait, silly me, Alligators don’t like peanut butter… ---
**Author:** ![Flyfisher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e480ec/32.png) [@Flyfisher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flyfisher)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2002, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-with-animals/103263/48 "2002-04-16T16:00:40Z")
Anyrae, alligators typically do their “tasting” strictly by their noses. So if it smells like something they’d eat, like say fish for example, the gator would probably “lick it” if offered the opportunity. So they could just add a little fish oil to their peanut butter before spreading it about. However, someone doing such with a gator might take into consideration all those sharp, pointy teeth a round the gator’s tongue, eh?😃 ---
**Author:** ![anyrae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e495f1/32.png) [@anyrae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrae)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2002, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-with-animals/103263/49 "2002-04-16T16:10:45Z")
Thanks for the tip! I am sure that will come in handy when I propose marriage to the creature in the canal behind my house. Will you be my bridesmaid? ---
**Author:** ![Flyfisher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e480ec/32.png) [@Flyfisher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flyfisher)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2002, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-with-animals/103263/50 "2002-04-16T16:34:24Z")
Jesus, Joseph and Mary! What ARE you thinking? I shudder to think how I’d LOOK in a bridesmaid get up … it would ruin the press for society pages. I can see head line now … " **Male Yeti Bridesmaid At Wedding Of Woman Wedded To Gator**" What would your neighbors and friends think? :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Surreal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Surreal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Surreal)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2002, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-with-animals/103263/51 "2002-04-16T17:45:31Z")
**Flyfisher** -“_But, most people I’d wager don’t want to know nor hear about your activities._” Right! Because it’s NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS! **Flyfisher** -“_And since the nature of things doesn’t allow cross spieces breeding, they’ll help thin out the shallow end of the gene pool._” First, you don’t _know_ that these people are having sex with animals EXCLUSIVELY. The same thing could be said about masturbation, but we all know that masturbation does not cause someone to _not_ want to have sexor inhibit reproduction. And what do you mean ‘shallow end’? Do you KNOW that the quality of these people’s genes is somehow LESS than everyone else’s? Are you a geneticist? ---
**Author:** ![Flyfisher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e480ec/32.png) [@Flyfisher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flyfisher)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2002, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-with-animals/103263/52 "2002-04-16T18:15:51Z")
Why do ask such questions? Do you feel like you have mud oozing up between your toes? ---
**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2002, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-with-animals/103263/53 "2002-04-16T18:40:18Z")
Ok, this thread is becoming a debate on the pros/cons of zoophilia, and such a discussion would belong in the Great Debate forum. So I will close this thread and invite any interested parties to continue the discussion in that section of the board, if they feel so inclined. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sex-with-animals/103263.md?page=2)