# Sexism, homophobia and assholes! A.K.A The new manager requirements at Wendy's
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexism-homophobia-and-assholes-a-k-a-the-new-manager-requirements-at-wendys/173284
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
**Created:** [May 5, 2003, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexism-homophobia-and-assholes-a-k-a-the-new-manager-requirements-at-wendys/173284 "2003-05-05T22:52:37Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@samarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samarm)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2003, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexism-homophobia-and-assholes-a-k-a-the-new-manager-requirements-at-wendys/173284/21 "2003-05-06T01:10:43Z")
You should make it clear you are joking, Krisfer… add a smiley or something!
I’m pretty sure you are not serious, but you should be careful saying things like that. Or am I overreacting? Maybe I am… OK I’ll shut up now…
🙂
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### Author:  [@WortMeWorry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WortMeWorry)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2003, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexism-homophobia-and-assholes-a-k-a-the-new-manager-requirements-at-wendys/173284/22 "2003-05-06T01:16:30Z")
My question is , who gave this scrunge-bucket any authority? Especially in the restaurant business. It seems this business is more accepting towards gays and lesbians. In my twenty years in this business it never occurred to me to hate people for their choice of sexual partners.
I think discussing your idea with his former manager is a good idea. I think you should do what would get your message across with the least amount of backlash. You soon learn that in a corporate store it never hurts to know the lay of the land.
I don’t want to be a doomsayer but remember this is a company that probably espouses " Family Values",and it might be easier to get rid of the trouble maker. I’m just trying to urge some caution here, so remember, CYA.
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### Author:  [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2003, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexism-homophobia-and-assholes-a-k-a-the-new-manager-requirements-at-wendys/173284/23 "2003-05-06T02:07:36Z")
Completely off topic, but… it looks like our **matt\_mcl** is about to hit **9000** posts! w00t w00t! 🙂
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### Author:  [@scott\_evil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scott_evil)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2003, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexism-homophobia-and-assholes-a-k-a-the-new-manager-requirements-at-wendys/173284/24 "2003-05-06T02:17:13Z")
**Amber** , Doperéal is our annual Montreal Dopefest, in the summer. 🙂 ( **LaurAnge** coined the name.)
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### Author:  [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2003, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexism-homophobia-and-assholes-a-k-a-the-new-manager-requirements-at-wendys/173284/25 "2003-05-06T02:56:01Z")
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> \*Originally posted by Upside\_Down\_Amber \*
> \*\*Do I make a formal complaint because he is making my working environment uncomfortable? \*\*
Yep. And ideally, you’ll hand him the paperwork while you and **kung fu lola** (and the other Queerdoperéalitans) are making out.
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### Author:  [@Upside\_Down\_Amber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Upside_Down_Amber)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2003, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexism-homophobia-and-assholes-a-k-a-the-new-manager-requirements-at-wendys/173284/26 "2003-05-06T04:46:26Z")
I have to say, Dopers are the best! Out of this simple threat I have found a few Montrealers,and found out about the Dopereal (which **Lola** got all excited about so I think its sure we’ll be there.) I want to reasure my fellow dopers that I will be careful with my actions on Friday. I plan on going to see the “duckfart’s” old GM and get some advice. Oh, and **Matt\_mcl** , come by Wendy’s anytime you want… just ask for Cory… night all
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### Author:  [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2003, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexism-homophobia-and-assholes-a-k-a-the-new-manager-requirements-at-wendys/173284/27 "2003-05-06T11:48:58Z")
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> Homophobes are often inconsistent in their views between gay guys and lesbians.
another one posting that there is a difference, a big difference here. I don’t know where is stems from but think it had to do with a guys mainly visual interpertation of thinks (you could say seeing her/them naked though crude does get my point across), which is usually pleaurable to a guy when done on a girl/female couple but repulsive when done with guy couples.
I would guess that his initial reaction would be (to your kiss plans)
1 - Whoa, look at that.
2 - wait a sec, their both girls (note that this comes after 1)
3 - Perhaps she’s bi-sexual
4 - Maybe a lesbian (again note order)
After I would say there is going to be much curosity on his part, you want to make him suffer, do the kiss in front of him, and don’t talk about it.
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### Author:  [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2003, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexism-homophobia-and-assholes-a-k-a-the-new-manager-requirements-at-wendys/173284/28 "2003-05-06T12:04:25Z")
Man, I live in the San Francisco Bay Area and I have never seen any fast-food workers around here engaging in hot lesbian action. I apparently have to travel all the way to Montreal.
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### Author:  [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2003, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexism-homophobia-and-assholes-a-k-a-the-new-manager-requirements-at-wendys/173284/29 "2003-05-06T12:45:14Z")
Montreal is the GAYEST! Just the GAYEST! 😉
I would take legal action, whatever that is in Montreal. It is definitely a hostile work environment in the U.S. And this asshole would probably enjoy watching the two of you making out, so I wouldn’t give him the pleasure. Find out how to formally complain against him. If he’s that way to the employees, he’s not going to be a very good representative of the company to customers. Find out what the official policy is with Wendy’s and POST it somewhere where he’ll see it every day.
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### Author:  [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2003, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexism-homophobia-and-assholes-a-k-a-the-new-manager-requirements-at-wendys/173284/30 "2003-05-06T14:21:29Z")
Have you thought of shunning? I’m a big fan of shunning. Every time he talks to anyone in the store, they should turn their back on him silently.
Nobody does a good shunning these days. Well, except for the Amish. Not like those shiftless Mennonites!
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### Author:  [@kung\_fu\_lola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kung_fu_lola)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2003, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexism-homophobia-and-assholes-a-k-a-the-new-manager-requirements-at-wendys/173284/31 "2003-05-06T14:46:34Z")
**WortMeWorry** , **UDA** and I talked about that possibility, but we decided that if she handles it in a professional way, and goes through the appropriate channels, no reasonable person could hold it against her.
'Round here, harassment based on sexual orientation is illegal. And no matter what people’s personal opinions are, in workplaces and other public arenas homophobic comments are unwelcome.
All Montreal Dopers (including and especially the gay ones) are cordially invited to have a Grilled Chicken sandwich at the Wendy’s on Peel near HMV not for free though. So we know you’re a Doper, just say the password: “The Pink Panther wears blue shoes.” Or just ask for Cory and say hi.
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### Author:  [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2003, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexism-homophobia-and-assholes-a-k-a-the-new-manager-requirements-at-wendys/173284/32 "2003-05-06T15:43:42Z")
Got a nice guy friend with a wicked sense of humor?
Have him come into Wendy’s and “break up” somewhat loudly with your creepy manager in front of **everybody** and explain that he just can’t be in a relationship with a guy who isn’t courageous enough to come out and who is ashamed of being gay in this day and age. Give him back “his” pin. Exit.
Cue everybody: sympathy
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### Author:  [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2003, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexism-homophobia-and-assholes-a-k-a-the-new-manager-requirements-at-wendys/173284/33 "2003-05-06T16:02:58Z")
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> \*Originally posted by AHunter3 \*
> \*\*Got a nice guy friend with a wicked sense of humor?
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> Have him come into Wendy’s and “break up” somewhat loudly with your creepy manager in front of **everybody** and explain that he just can’t be in a relationship with a guy who isn’t courageous enough to come out and who is ashamed of being gay in this day and age. Give him back “his” pin. Exit.
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> Cue everybody: sympathy \*\*
That’s just pure evil. If I lived anywhere near Montreal, I’d do it.
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### Author:  [@Iteki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iteki)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2003, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexism-homophobia-and-assholes-a-k-a-the-new-manager-requirements-at-wendys/173284/34 "2003-05-06T17:36:41Z")
Too, too cool. Can somone not please do this?
And tape it? And post it to the internet? Please?
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### Author:  [@Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barbarian)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2003, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexism-homophobia-and-assholes-a-k-a-the-new-manager-requirements-at-wendys/173284/35 "2003-05-06T19:15:21Z")
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> \*Originally posted by Kalhoun \*
> \*\*Montreal is the GAYEST! Just the GAYEST! 😉
> \*\*
Obviously that explains why I’m getting married there in July :rolleyes: No straight people there at all. Just a bunch of flamers 😉
Hmm… I’ll swing by the Wendy’s on Peel while I’m there, but no way in hell am I ordering a grilled chicken. Chicken is eviillllllll.
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### Author:  [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2003, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexism-homophobia-and-assholes-a-k-a-the-new-manager-requirements-at-wendys/173284/36 "2003-05-06T20:30:00Z")
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> I would take legal action, whatever that is in Montreal. It is definitely a hostile work environment in the U.S.
At the very least tell him to stop it before you go this route, the courts are already clogged up with issues that could have been solved by talking.
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### Author:  [@Siege](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siege)
#### Post date: [May 7, 2003, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexism-homophobia-and-assholes-a-k-a-the-new-manager-requirements-at-wendys/173284/37 "2003-05-07T00:03:20Z")
Heck, if I were closer to Montreal, I’d offer to play that scene out and I’m straight. I’ve also got a reasonable line of withering remarks which would shrink a fellow’s manhood down to microscopic, assuming it were visible to begin with.
Hmmmm. Bwu-ha-ha-ha-ha-HA!!
Please tell us all the gory details!
CJ
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### Author:  [@Incubus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Incubus)
#### Post date: [May 7, 2003, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexism-homophobia-and-assholes-a-k-a-the-new-manager-requirements-at-wendys/173284/38 "2003-05-07T00:08:10Z")
I don’t know if your idea of retaliation would be a very good idea- it kind of sounds to me like sexual harassment. I’m not saying the guy doesn’t deserve it, I’m just suggesting perhaps taking a more civil approach.
I don’t think creating a backlash against a homophobe will change his/her opinion. If anything, it will further cement their beliefs. It comes down to people having to come to terms with the world around them by themselves- nobody can force them to think differently 😕
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### Author:  [@Davebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Davebear)
#### Post date: [May 7, 2003, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexism-homophobia-and-assholes-a-k-a-the-new-manager-requirements-at-wendys/173284/39 "2003-05-07T02:53:40Z")
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> \*Originally posted by kung fu lola \*
> \*\* It is I, **Upside\_Down\_Amber’s** Doper girlfriend! Luckily for both of us, she doesn’t mind me flirting with **Davebear** and I don’t mind her spelling. 😉 \*\*
I don’t mind you flirting with me, either. 🙂
Hi, **Upside\_Down\_Amber’s**! Welcome aboard. You’ve certainly made our little Lola happy! That’s enough reason for me to like you. So, I’m glad you joined the board.
I’m sorry about the duckfart. (I like that one, too.) And, while I like some of the evil ideas, I think the professional route is the smartest. Since you love your job, you don’t want to risk it on _his_ account.
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### Author:  [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)
#### Post date: [May 7, 2003, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexism-homophobia-and-assholes-a-k-a-the-new-manager-requirements-at-wendys/173284/40 "2003-05-07T03:30:45Z")
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> \*Originally posted by kanicbird \*
> \*\*
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> I would guess that his initial reaction would be (to your kiss plans)
> 1 - Whoa, look at that.
> 2 - wait a sec, their both girls (note that this comes after 1)
> 3 - Perhaps she’s bi-sexual
> 4 - Maybe a lesbian (again note order)
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> After I would say there is going to be much curosity on his part, you want to make him suffer, do the kiss in front of him, and don’t talk about it. \*\*
I think you forgot step 3.5 - “Maybe they’d do me as a threesome.”
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