# Sexual Harassment/Assault/Workplace Bullying omnibus thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 4, 2017, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexual-harassment-assault-workplace-bullying-omnibus-thread/803573 "2017-12-04T20:36:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Pantastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3bc359/32.png) [@Pantastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pantastic)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2017, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexual-harassment-assault-workplace-bullying-omnibus-thread/803573/21 "2017-12-11T18:32:40Z")
Mario Batali is the latest in the series: [https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/11/dining/mario-batali-sexual-misconduct.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/11/dining/mario-batali-sexual-misconduct.html) I think it’s telling how these guys do it so often that they can’t remember the specific person, but are pretty sure they felt her up. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexual-harassment-assault-workplace-bullying-omnibus-thread/803573/22 "2017-12-12T17:53:34Z")
Tom Ashbrook, longtime host of the NPR’s current events show _On Point_ has been suspended for alleged sexual misconduct. > **[Veteran NPR host Tom Ashbrook suspended for alleged sexual misconduct](https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/2017/12/11/veteran-npr-host-tom-ashbrook-suspended-alleged-sexual-misconduct/940903001/)** > > The host of 'On Point,' one of NPR's most successful programs, has been accused of 'creepy' conduct at WBUR in Boston. > [@](#): > > BOSTON — Tom Ashbrook, the host of one of National Public Radio’s most successful programs, On Point, has been suspended while the network investigates sexual misconduct allegations made against him. > > The allegations include that he engaged in “creepy” sex talks and gave unwanted hugs, neck and back rubs to 11 mostly young women and men who worked on the show. > > WBUR-FM, the Boston public radio station that produces On Point, on Monday described a pattern of alleged abuse set out in a multi-page document filed by the accusers outlining their complaints against Ashbrook. The allegations were confirmed in multiple interviews by WBUR. > > “Tirades directed at young women in the studio. Name calling and belittling critiques of show ideas during meetings. ‘Creepy’ sex talk, hugs and back or neck rubs after a dressing down,” I listen to the podcast of _On Point_ almost daily. I’m really surprised to hear about this and angry at him for apparently being a creep and an a\*\*hole. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexual-harassment-assault-workplace-bullying-omnibus-thread/803573/23 "2017-12-12T18:03:42Z")
More generally, ISTM that NPR in particular has had quite of number of people removed due to harassment. In addition to this newest guy, there’s also David Sweeney, John Hockenberry, Michael Oreskes, and I think one or two other guys. [My wife is a regular NPR listener, but her ideology is considerably to the right of that of NPR - she is having a bit of schadenfreude at all this.] ---
**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexual-harassment-assault-workplace-bullying-omnibus-thread/803573/24 "2017-12-12T18:25:40Z")
> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > More generally, ISTM that NPR in particular has had quite of number of people removed due to harassment. In addition to this newest guy, there’s also David Sweeney, John Hockenberry, Michael Oreskes, and I think one or two other guys. > > [My wife is a regular NPR listener, but her ideology is considerably to the right of that of NPR - she is having a bit of schadenfreude at all this.] She feels a little good that people have been assaulted or harassed by NPR employees b/c she disagrees w/ them politically? Bizarre reaction. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexual-harassment-assault-workplace-bullying-omnibus-thread/803573/25 "2017-12-12T18:29:17Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > Another one: [James Levine of the Metropolitan Opera](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/03/arts/music/james-levine-met-opera.html). Apparently he has been abusing teenage boys associated with places he has worked, such as the Ravinia Festival, since 1968. Jeebus, how does someone get away with something like that for so long? > > Never mind, rhetorical question. I can attest to having heard the rumors about Levine’s sexual predation of young men back in the 1990s. But I’m not anywhere near any organization that actually employs or employed Levine, and I don’t know anyone specifically claiming to be a victim, so there’s nothing I could do to corroborate or refute the rumors. That said, if **I** heard the rumors at my far remove, people much closer to Levine must have known them too. > [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > More generally, ISTM that NPR in particular has had quite of number of people removed due to harassment. In addition to this newest guy, there’s also David Sweeney, John Hockenberry, Michael Oreskes, and I think one or two other guys. > > [My wife is a regular NPR listener, but her ideology is considerably to the right of that of NPR - she is having a bit of schadenfreude at all this.] Sexual harassment is rife right, left and center (FoxNews’s dirty laundry having been aired at the early end of this trend). Government, media, corporations… wherever there is power and inadequate oversight, there one shall find creeps. ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexual-harassment-assault-workplace-bullying-omnibus-thread/803573/26 "2017-12-12T18:46:26Z")
> [@Nawth\_Chucka](#): > > She feels a little good that people have been assaulted or harassed by NPR employees b/c she disagrees w/ them politically? Bizarre reaction. She feels a little good that people who are particularly sanctimonious about matters of this sort turn out to have feet of clay in precisely this area. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexual-harassment-assault-workplace-bullying-omnibus-thread/803573/27 "2017-12-12T18:59:26Z")
> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > She feels a little good that people who are particularly sanctimonious about matters of this sort turn out to have feet of clay in precisely this area. That when these things come to light, they fire the bastards? What would she rather they do, ignore it like ~35% of the population does with Trump/Moore? ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexual-harassment-assault-workplace-bullying-omnibus-thread/803573/28 "2017-12-12T19:03:27Z")
What’s your point? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexual-harassment-assault-workplace-bullying-omnibus-thread/803573/29 "2017-12-12T19:18:22Z")
A multitude of NFL Network analysts and executives have been suspended after a lawsuit was filed for harassment. [NFL Network Suspends Marshall Faulk, Ike Taylor, Heath Evans After Sexual Harassment Lawsuit [UPDATE]](https://deadspin.com/nfl-network-suspends-marshall-faulk-ike-taylor-heath-1821206708)? ---
**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexual-harassment-assault-workplace-bullying-omnibus-thread/803573/30 "2017-12-12T20:03:11Z")
> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > She feels a little good that people who are particularly sanctimonious about matters of this sort turn out to have feet of clay in precisely this area. But the result is that people have been assaulted or harassed; one has to be pretty far removed from empathy to enjoy any part of that. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexual-harassment-assault-workplace-bullying-omnibus-thread/803573/31 "2017-12-12T23:00:21Z")
[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/OQnNH7I07RY/hqdefault.jpg "sexual harrassment panda") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQnNH7I07RY) ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexual-harassment-assault-workplace-bullying-omnibus-thread/803573/32 "2017-12-13T03:53:04Z")
> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > More generally, ISTM that NPR in particular has had quite of number of people removed due to harassment. In addition to this newest guy, there’s also David Sweeney, John Hockenberry, Michael Oreskes, and I think one or two other guys. > > [My wife is a regular NPR listener, but her ideology is considerably to the right of that of NPR - she is having a bit of schadenfreude at all this.] > [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > What’s your point? I can’t speak for **Chisquirrel** , if that’s who you were questioning, but if I were addressing you, my point would be this: you really are a putrid little piece of slime, aren’t you? No, no, don’t hold back, let all the pus out and maybe it will ease the festering a little bit. And I’m sure your wife is glad that you are airing her out in a public forum as well, although I wouldn’t believe anything you say about her either, not even that she exists. Why don’t you go and drop your sorry little turds in some other location. Like the surface of the sun. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexual-harassment-assault-workplace-bullying-omnibus-thread/803573/33 "2017-12-13T04:22:31Z")
**F-P** is trolling. He popped into a thread that’s about naming and shaming these sexual abusers, and had to throw in a political potshot. Nevermind that it makes his wife look like a shitty human being who feels good that people get sexually harassed. That’s not the point. It’s to start an argument with him as the focus. This thread isn’t about him and what he wants to discuss, so, for once, let’s not turn this into the **F-P** show. Let’s just keep naming and shaming these assholes. ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexual-harassment-assault-workplace-bullying-omnibus-thread/803573/34 "2017-12-13T13:57:19Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > I can’t speak for **Chisquirrel** , if that’s who you were questioning, but if I were addressing you, my point would be this: you really are a putrid little piece of slime, aren’t you? No, no, don’t hold back, let all the pus out and maybe it will ease the festering a little bit. And I’m sure your wife is glad that you are airing her out in a public forum as well, although I wouldn’t believe anything you say about her either, not even that she exists. > > Why don’t you go and drop your sorry little turds in some other location. Like the surface of the sun. Your penchant for subtlety may be obscuring your intentions a bit. But reading between the lines, I do believe I can detect an undercurrent of hostility. Unfortunate, perhaps, but there it is. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexual-harassment-assault-workplace-bullying-omnibus-thread/803573/35 "2017-12-13T14:16:11Z")
I think it’s entirely possible to have political schadenfreude without being happy about the thing prompting the obvious hypocrisy. Sexual assault exists across the political spectrum so it’s not like it’s a surprise to anyone (I hope) that it happens in liberal media organizations, too. The schadenfreude isn’t, “aha! people are being assaulted over here as well!” so much as “aha! You have to air your dirty laundry too, after pretending this was a conservative issue!” I mean, I assume that’s his wife’s reaction. Don’t know her personally. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexual-harassment-assault-workplace-bullying-omnibus-thread/803573/36 "2017-12-13T14:28:27Z")
Here’s an example. Would I feel schadenfreude if, by some miracle of Og, Trump was found guilty of obstruction of justice? Fuck yes I would. Does that mean I’m happy that the President of the United States is obstructing justice? Very obviously not. The shameful joy is in having someone held accountable for something I find repugnant. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexual-harassment-assault-workplace-bullying-omnibus-thread/803573/37 "2017-12-13T15:43:47Z")
> [@Pantastic](#): > > Mario Batali is the latest in the series: [https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/11/dining/mario-batali-sexual-misconduct.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/11/dining/mario-batali-sexual-misconduct.html) > > I think it’s telling how these guys do it so often that they can’t remember the specific person, but are pretty sure they felt her up. Yeah, his admission-of-guilt was along the lines of “Yup, that sure sounds like something I would do.” My wife laughed out loud at the radio report. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexual-harassment-assault-workplace-bullying-omnibus-thread/803573/38 "2017-12-13T16:08:14Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Yeah, his admission-of-guilt was along the lines of “Yup, that sure sounds like something I would do.” My wife laughed out loud at the radio report. I had to give him a tiny amount of props for giving just a straight up admission rather than a weasly non-apology. The weasels undermine the claims of victims whereas those who fess up are at least validating those other victims who come forward. Of course it takes away from the good faith argument that these dudes don’t know they are in the wrong. I have a feeling this guy knew. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexual-harassment-assault-workplace-bullying-omnibus-thread/803573/39 "2017-12-13T16:29:39Z")
Also my mind when I read this story immediately went to that “Master of None” episode about the famous sexually harassing chef. Anyone else? I wonder if Aziz Ansari had anyone specific in mind. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexual-harassment-assault-workplace-bullying-omnibus-thread/803573/40 "2017-12-13T20:45:26Z")
Jezebel is keeping a running list of those who have been accused. > **[A Running List of Alleged Predators Facing Accusations and Consequences...](https://jezebel.com/a-running-list-of-alleged-predators-facing-accusations-1819980057)** > > Harvey Weinstein’s long history of alleged abuse from his position of power has instigated an unprecedented response to accusations of sexual harassment and assault. In the weeks since the initial report about Weinstein’s behavior, first published in... [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexual-harassment-assault-workplace-bullying-omnibus-thread/803573.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexual-harassment-assault-workplace-bullying-omnibus-thread/803573.md?page=3)