# Sexy Seductive Female relatively unaffected by the Infection

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexy-seductive-female-relatively-unaffected-by-the-infection/745234>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 5, 2016, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexy-seductive-female-relatively-unaffected-by-the-infection/745234 "2016-02-05T15:24:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2016, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexy-seductive-female-relatively-unaffected-by-the-infection/745234/21 "2016-02-06T03:00:46Z")

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> Quoth **Miller** :
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> Lots of zombie movies don’t feature any “sexy” zombies of either gender. Most appearances by the 'Borg in Star Trek didn’t, until they introduced the Borg Queen in First Contact.

Speaking of which, my first thought on seeing the thread was Seven of Nine. Most Borg, when they get assimilated, get half their body replaced and at least three quarters of their face, and end up with a boxy, nondescript torso. Jeri Ryan, however, gets a little bit of metallic eyeshadow and a skintight bodysuit.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2016, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexy-seductive-female-relatively-unaffected-by-the-infection/745234/22 "2016-02-06T03:13:16Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Speaking of which, my first thought on seeing the thread was Seven of Nine. Most Borg, when they get assimilated, get half their body replaced and at least three quarters of their face, and end up with a boxy, nondescript torso. Jeri Ryan, however, gets a little bit of metallic eyeshadow and a skintight bodysuit.

What, [this?](http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QHKBhEdzAHI/VFr6Mxe-u0I/AAAAAAAAM7I/XTT8xZYQBjs/s1600/Seven_of_Nine_speaks_for_the_Borg.jpg) Granted, more discernible boobage than you normally see on a borg, but still not something I’d want to see in bed next to me. Sure, she turns into [this](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/0a/SevenofNine.jpg/250px-SevenofNine.jpg) after they remove most of her implants, but Captain Picard was also borgified, and was able to return to factory default once they rescued him. (And while the show never played it up, [this](http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/12/11/16/2F49172B00000578-3356278-image-m-33_1449850017255.jpg) is what Captain Picard is packing under those long johns, so “ex-borg = rocking bod” is not purely a female thing.)

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2016, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexy-seductive-female-relatively-unaffected-by-the-infection/745234/23 "2016-02-06T04:09:58Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> I think _Bride of Frankenstein_ is an early example of this. It wasn’t an infection but both Boris Karloff’s and Elsa Lanchester’s characters went through a similar reanimation process.

I always assumed that Elsa’s character’s comparative good looks were due to the collaboration with Dr. Praetorius.

You know how obsessed with appearance those flaming gay stereotype prissy guys are, what with all their hairdressing and interior decoration. You have to figure they’d create cuter monsters.

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**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2016, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexy-seductive-female-relatively-unaffected-by-the-infection/745234/24 "2016-02-06T04:53:38Z")

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As might be expected, TV Tropes has this subject covered with [Cute Monster Girl](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CuteMonsterGirl) and [Gorgeous Gorgon](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GorgeousGorgon).

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2016, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexy-seductive-female-relatively-unaffected-by-the-infection/745234/25 "2016-02-06T05:29:41Z")

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> [@Lemur866](#):
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> You do get your occasional sexy male vampire, or sexy male werewolf, or sexy male demon. I mean, Twilight exists, and there’s the sexy urban fantasy genre with sexy male fill-in-the-blanks.

You don’t need to go to glowpires, Anne Rice did enough sexypires to fill libraries.

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**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2016, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexy-seductive-female-relatively-unaffected-by-the-infection/745234/26 "2016-02-06T16:47:44Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Actually the movie addressed this issue. It explicitly said that demonic possession made Jennifer more attractive as long as she killed other victims.

Yeah, she looked pretty bad when she was jonesing.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2016, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexy-seductive-female-relatively-unaffected-by-the-infection/745234/27 "2016-02-06T17:46:53Z")

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OK, I didn’t know that Seven of Nine originally looked Borgier. Still, after getting re-sexified, she’s still a Borg. We’ve nowhere seen an actual Borg drone that looked that good… except for her.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2016, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexy-seductive-female-relatively-unaffected-by-the-infection/745234/28 "2016-02-06T17:48:18Z")

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[Sonja Bennett](http://www.themakeupgallery.info/horror/dead/fido.htm) played the still-doable (if you’re into that sort of thing, and it was strongly implied one of the characters was) zombie Tammy in _Fido_.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2016, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexy-seductive-female-relatively-unaffected-by-the-infection/745234/29 "2016-02-07T02:28:54Z")

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> [@NDP](#):
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> As might be expected, TV Tropes has this subject covered with [Cute Monster Girl](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CuteMonsterGirl) and [Gorgeous Gorgon](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GorgeousGorgon).

Well, neither of those is what I outlined in the OP (which is : at least one female of the group ends up infected but remains nonetheless sexy and enticing, evidently our director’s way of suggesting that there is something seductive about the infection.Second-tier females end up as ugly as the affected guys.

I’ll grant that the thread has morphed toward the Cute Monster Girl/Sexual Dimorphism route.  
Incidentally, the Gorgeous Gorgon is literally an early invention. Archaic gorgons were ugly creatures, with scales and tusks and oversized staring eyes and unruly hair and protruding tongues (but no snakes in place of hair, despite our idea of Gorgons). But Gorgons started getting prettier until, by Roman Times, you had Gorgons you wouldn’t be afrais to take home vto mother.

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**Author:** ![LC\_Strawhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e19adc/32.png) [@LC\_Strawhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LC_Strawhouse)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexy-seductive-female-relatively-unaffected-by-the-infection/745234/30 "2016-02-07T02:37:02Z")

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David Cronenberg’s first two horror movies ([Shivers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shivers_(film)) and [Rabid](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabid)) were both about horrible contagious diseases and yes, both of them had an attractive woman being the main spreader of the disease.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2016, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sexy-seductive-female-relatively-unaffected-by-the-infection/745234/31 "2016-02-07T04:30:54Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> OK, I didn’t know that Seven of Nine originally looked Borgier. Still, after getting re-sexified, she’s still a Borg. We’ve nowhere seen an actual Borg drone that looked that good… except for her.

She wasn’t still a Borg when she looked that good, was she? I thought the whole point of her character was that she’d been turned back into a human.

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