# SF State dreadlocks incident: Is it for real? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [March 30, 2016, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sf-state-dreadlocks-incident-is-it-for-real/750590 "2016-03-30T01:12:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sf-state-dreadlocks-incident-is-it-for-real/750590/21 "2016-03-30T11:53:22Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > [Cory Goldstein & Bonita Tindle: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know](http://heavy.com/news/2016/03/cory-goldstein-bonita-tindle-dreadlock-video-racist-san-francisco-state-university/) I really shouldn’t read things like that in the morning. Better to wait until at least after lunchtime to start hating the world again. From the “victim’s” little self-bio quoted there, I can tell that admission requirements at San Francisco State must be really strict. No what I meen? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sf-state-dreadlocks-incident-is-it-for-real/750590/22 "2016-03-30T12:05:16Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > That would be ironic, as the cow **boy** s of the old west were originally black. Who appropriated the culture of the Spanish and Mexican vaqueros, or _buckaroos_. ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sf-state-dreadlocks-incident-is-it-for-real/750590/23 "2016-03-30T13:04:19Z")
Christians appropraited parts of the religion of the Jews without really understanding a lot of it. ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sf-state-dreadlocks-incident-is-it-for-real/750590/24 "2016-03-30T13:20:18Z")
> [@Sahirrnee](#): > > Whatever happened to the US being referred to as a ‘melting pot’? We realized that without stirring it, stuff on the bottom keeps getting burned. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sf-state-dreadlocks-incident-is-it-for-real/750590/25 "2016-03-30T14:50:18Z")
> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#): > > Ok this is hilarious here. A white person with dreadlocks is like the epitome of the “dirty street hippie” stereotype. The [embodiment](http://www.brooklynvegan.com/adam-duritz-of/) of white-guy-consistently-mocked-for-his-dreads seems intent on keeping them. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![G0sp3l](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c68b51/32.png) [@G0sp3l](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G0sp3l)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sf-state-dreadlocks-incident-is-it-for-real/750590/26 "2016-03-30T15:12:52Z")
> [@WhyNot](#): > > We realized that without stirring it, stuff on the bottom keeps getting burned. I’m stealing that line, just so you know. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sf-state-dreadlocks-incident-is-it-for-real/750590/27 "2016-03-30T15:22:26Z")
> [@actualliberalnotoneofthose](#): > > I’m surprised no one is saying anything about him wearing a dress. Is that progress? > > I bet a lot of the conservatives supporting him because the “enemy” is black would be calling him all kinds of slurs and probably beating him up themselves. All conservatives would have gleefully murdered him for daring to not be a conservative. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sf-state-dreadlocks-incident-is-it-for-real/750590/28 "2016-03-30T15:46:56Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > Cite, please? I heard it [Somewhere](https://tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/arb01) or [another](http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/15/world/black-cowboys/), but got a bit mixed up and overstated the case a bit, as usual. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sf-state-dreadlocks-incident-is-it-for-real/750590/29 "2016-03-30T17:11:27Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > All conservatives would have gleefully murdered him for daring to not be a conservative. Who needs a reason? Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sf-state-dreadlocks-incident-is-it-for-real/750590/30 "2016-03-30T18:00:30Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > I heard it [Somewhere](https://tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/arb01) or [another](http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/15/world/black-cowboys/), but got a bit mixed up and overstated the case a bit, as usual. Whether white or black, those cowboys would have been wearing [bowlers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowler_hat), not “cowboy hats”, anyway. So someone of any race wearing a cowboy hat would only be ironically misappropriating… a Stetson marketing campaign. ---
**Author:** ![Jeff\_Lichtman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeff_lichtman/32/1531_2.png) [@Jeff\_Lichtman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jeff_Lichtman)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sf-state-dreadlocks-incident-is-it-for-real/750590/31 "2016-03-30T18:02:25Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > I heard it [Somewhere](https://tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/arb01) or [another](http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/15/world/black-cowboys/), but got a bit mixed up and overstated the case a bit, as usual. Yes. There were a lot of black cowboys. They weren’t all black. Many cowboys were people who had been displaced by the Civil War, including former slaves and ex-Confederate soldiers. It’s unfortunate that the black cowboys aren’t recognized by popular culture. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sf-state-dreadlocks-incident-is-it-for-real/750590/32 "2016-03-30T18:09:33Z")
> [@Jeff\_Lichtman](#): > > Yes. > > There were a lot of black cowboys. They weren’t all black. Many cowboys were people who had been displaced by the Civil War, including former slaves and ex-Confederate soldiers. It’s unfortunate that the black cowboys aren’t recognized by popular culture. How soon we forget Laurence Fishburne’s historically accurate role as Cowboy Curtis. ---
**Author:** ![Jeff\_Lichtman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeff_lichtman/32/1531_2.png) [@Jeff\_Lichtman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jeff_Lichtman)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sf-state-dreadlocks-incident-is-it-for-real/750590/33 "2016-03-30T18:10:41Z")
> [@Lightray](#): > > Whether white or black, those cowboys would have been wearing [bowlers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowler_hat), not “cowboy hats”, anyway. So someone of any race wearing a cowboy hat would only be ironically misappropriating… a Stetson marketing campaign. From the [Wikipedia “Cowboy Hat” article](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowboy_hat): > [@](#): > > The working cowboy wore wide-brimmed, high-crowned hats that were most likely adopted from the Mexican Vaqueros before the invention of the modern design. A bowler isn’t best hat for someone who works in the sun all day. The fact that the bowler was the most popular hat in the west during the cowboy era doesn’t mean that cowboys wore them. Most westerners weren’t cowboys. So someone who wears a cowboy hat is actually misappropriating a sombrero. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sf-state-dreadlocks-incident-is-it-for-real/750590/34 "2016-03-30T18:46:06Z")
And, because _The Simpsons_ Did Everything, [there are Jewish Argentine cowboys (well, _gauchos_, I suppose)](http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/132922/argentina-last-jewish-cowboys) who are, for that extra little twist, Ashkenazim. From Ukraine. They’re dying off now, sadly, and soon the world may no longer know anything about this bold experiment. They need a revolution, and a revolution needs a leader. The world needs a _gaucho_ Marx! So, my question to all of you: When the Nazis fled to Argentina when the situation in Europe got too hot, were they appropriating that from the Jews? ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctor_jackson/32/32_2.png) [@Doctor\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sf-state-dreadlocks-incident-is-it-for-real/750590/35 "2016-03-30T18:55:04Z")
> [@Jeff\_Lichtman](#): > > It’s unfortunate that the black cowboys aren’t recognized by popular culture. It seems that someone has not seen the documentary film “Blazing Saddles”… ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sf-state-dreadlocks-incident-is-it-for-real/750590/36 "2016-03-30T19:10:03Z")
The sheriff is near? Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![somepumpkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7feea3/32.png) [@somepumpkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/somepumpkin)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sf-state-dreadlocks-incident-is-it-for-real/750590/37 "2016-03-30T19:19:32Z")
My US$0.02 is that it’s faked. I don’t think that –had they really been in conflict- she’d have pulled him back down the stairs for more “discussion”. Nor do I buy him starting his \*apology \*with a cite from Egypt. Also, (as \*\*bobkitty \*\*mentioned) they crack a smile every now and then. I only watched the video and did not read the story. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sf-state-dreadlocks-incident-is-it-for-real/750590/38 "2016-03-30T19:35:18Z")
If it were faked, I doubt that the guy with the dreads would have filed a police report. Also, the guy doing the recording (I don’t know if he’s a friend of dreadlocks guy or not) reported it to the campus security. ---
**Author:** ![chacoguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/50afbb/32.png) [@chacoguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chacoguy)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sf-state-dreadlocks-incident-is-it-for-real/750590/39 "2016-03-30T20:39:57Z")
> [@WhyNot](#): > > We realized that without stirring it, stuff on the bottom keeps getting burned. And the scum rises to the top. ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sf-state-dreadlocks-incident-is-it-for-real/750590/40 "2016-03-30T21:24:13Z")
> [@chacoguy](#): > > And the scum rises to the top. Ooh, stealing that! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sf-state-dreadlocks-incident-is-it-for-real/750590.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sf-state-dreadlocks-incident-is-it-for-real/750590.md?page=3)