# Shady thread closure by Jonathan Chance **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [November 6, 2013, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shady-thread-closure-by-jonathan-chance/673213 "2013-11-06T03:34:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shady-thread-closure-by-jonathan-chance/673213/1 "2013-11-06T03:34:35Z")
He was clearly champing at the bit to come up with an excuse to do it, and despite pleas from semi-lurkers that it was an interesting and edifying discussion, he came up with a lame one and did so. Makes me not want to post on GD any more. Very disappointed to see squelching of a topic like that, basically just because it is a “hot” one fraught with controversy (even if he won’t admit that’s the reason). ---
**Author:** ![Geek\_Mecha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecae2f/32.png) [@Geek\_Mecha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Geek_Mecha)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shady-thread-closure-by-jonathan-chance/673213/2 "2013-11-06T03:51:26Z")
Closure post: [From a purely genetic standpoint, how does it make sense that the average IQ of African Ams is 85?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16822402&postcount=387) ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shady-thread-closure-by-jonathan-chance/673213/3 "2013-11-06T15:28:27Z")
I disagreed with **SlackerInc** in the thread but I agree here that it was pretty lousy to close it. If the standard for closing a debate thread is “going back and forth and truly not getting anywhere” or “posters [on both sides] claiming little is going to be accomplished,” then probably most debate threads should be closed. It looks to me like there is some other reason why the thread was closed. My guess is it has something to with the fact that the majority of the last 50 or so posts were on the non-Leftist side of the debate and coming from a number of different posters. Of course in theory, pure numbers of posts or posters shouldn’t matter – what matters is the strength of peoples’ arguments. But for some people, I suspect that subconsciously it matters very much. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shady-thread-closure-by-jonathan-chance/673213/4 "2013-11-06T15:38:25Z")
Don’t worry, I’m sure there will be plenty of other threads just like it. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shady-thread-closure-by-jonathan-chance/673213/5 "2013-11-06T16:40:08Z")
It seems one side never is going to get tired of posting “but there’s no such thing as race” over and over, no matter how often it is explained to them, and that gets repetitious. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shady-thread-closure-by-jonathan-chance/673213/6 "2013-11-06T16:42:31Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Don’t worry, I’m sure there will be plenty of other threads just like it. Indeed. We have only begun to scratch the surface of the myriad ways that blacks are inferior to whites. Next up: Why are blacks genetically predisposed to playing music so loud? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shady-thread-closure-by-jonathan-chance/673213/7 "2013-11-06T16:57:00Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > It seems one side never is going to get tired of posting “but there’s no such thing as race” over and over, no matter how often it is explained to them, and that gets repetitious. > > Regards, > Shodan And one side, apparently, never gets tired of posting straw-man arguments. ---
**Author:** ![Karrius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/71c47a/32.png) [@Karrius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Karrius)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shady-thread-closure-by-jonathan-chance/673213/8 "2013-11-06T17:10:27Z")
Shodan now, too? I’m curious - are there any conservatives on this board that _don’t_ agree with brazil? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shady-thread-closure-by-jonathan-chance/673213/9 "2013-11-06T17:48:18Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > It seems one side never is going to get tired of posting “but there’s no such thing as race” over and over, no matter how often it is explained to them, and that gets repetitious. > > Regards, > Shodan > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > And one side, apparently, never gets tired of posting straw-man arguments. [Moderating] And both sides are going to drop the subject in this thread. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shady-thread-closure-by-jonathan-chance/673213/10 "2013-11-06T17:53:31Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Indeed. We have only begun to scratch the surface of the myriad ways that blacks are inferior to whites. Next up: Why are blacks genetically predisposed to playing music so loud? You see millions of years ago on the serengeti people didn’t live very close together so when they wanted to have a party the house band, usually consisting of electric banjos and spoons, would have to play really loud so all could hear and join in the festivities. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shady-thread-closure-by-jonathan-chance/673213/11 "2013-11-06T18:32:41Z")
> [@Karrius](#): > > Shodan now, too? I’m curious - are there any conservatives on this board that _don’t_ agree with brazil? Are there any liberals who don’t agree with Der Trihs? If they don’t agree, is it their bounden duty to ensure their disagreement is in every thread he spews into? Just curious how this all is supposed to work. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shady-thread-closure-by-jonathan-chance/673213/12 "2013-11-06T19:27:15Z")
> [@XT](#): > > Are there any liberals who don’t agree with Der Trihs? If they don’t agree, is it their bounden duty to ensure their disagreement is in every thread he spews into? God knows we’ve tried. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shady-thread-closure-by-jonathan-chance/673213/13 "2013-11-06T19:54:47Z")
> [@XT](#): > > Are there any liberals who don’t agree with Der Trihs? Of course. I’ve never pretended that many people agreed with me. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shady-thread-closure-by-jonathan-chance/673213/14 "2013-11-06T19:57:00Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Of course. I’ve never pretended that many people agreed with me. I’m sure they don’t. But I’m equally sure that when you frequently go off the rails that not all liberals who are even in the thread make their disagreement known, let alone those who didn’t even participate. Which was sort of the point I was getting at with the asinine ‘I’m curious - are there any conservatives on this board that don’t agree with brazil?’. Hell, I didn’t even know Brazil was considered a conservative, and I’m only vaguely aware of him (her?) as a poster. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shady-thread-closure-by-jonathan-chance/673213/15 "2013-11-06T19:59:03Z")
> [@Karrius](#): > > Shodan now, too? I’m curious - are there any conservatives on this board that _don’t_ agree with brazil? About what, _specifically_? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shady-thread-closure-by-jonathan-chance/673213/16 "2013-11-06T20:05:03Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > About what, _specifically_? _Pssst_: You might want to read post 9. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shady-thread-closure-by-jonathan-chance/673213/17 "2013-11-06T20:06:30Z")
EDIT: On further thought, I don’t think anything useful can be said on this matter without getting modded. Post 9. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shady-thread-closure-by-jonathan-chance/673213/18 "2013-11-06T20:11:11Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > EDIT: On further thought, I don’t think anything useful can be said on this without getting modded Agreed. No idea if the thread in question should have been closed or not. Seemed a racist rant to me when I skimmed it in GD originally, and I was wondering why it was allowed to remain open even as long as it did. Certainly there is knowledge to be gained by engaging racists (as well as CTers and the like), but there didn’t seem much of value there to me. MMV however I guess. ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shady-thread-closure-by-jonathan-chance/673213/19 "2013-11-06T20:12:29Z")
Who is this thread about again? ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shady-thread-closure-by-jonathan-chance/673213/20 "2013-11-06T20:39:20Z")
Is it me? I’m pretty sure it’s me. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shady-thread-closure-by-jonathan-chance/673213.md?page=2)