# Shagnasty and the Worst Anecdote in SDMB History **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 17, 2005, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-and-the-worst-anecdote-in-sdmb-history/290468 "2005-02-17T02:49:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-and-the-worst-anecdote-in-sdmb-history/290468/421 "2023-05-30T14:17:01Z")
I remember reading a Lawrence Block mystery in which one of the players preferred a drink consisting of milk and Scotch. According to The Jolly Bartender, “The milk simply softens the Scotch’s liquor flavors and gives the drink fattiness on the mouthfeel.” (retch) ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-and-the-worst-anecdote-in-sdmb-history/290468/422 "2023-05-30T14:21:24Z")
> [@Jasmine](#): > > Were it a fling, he wouldn’t care what she drank as long as the evening ended in sex. LOL Which is more likely to happen if she’d drinks something stronger than milk! ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-and-the-worst-anecdote-in-sdmb-history/290468/423 "2023-05-30T14:33:42Z")
> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#): > > Of course, twenty years ago a lot of my coworkers would throw down three or four beers and then get in their cars and drive home. I took even more flak in those days as “One Beer Bob” I’m surprised anyone notices. I never have more than one drink at company events, partly for the reasons you list, and partly because i just don’t like to feel tipsy, and if i have more than one drink without a full meal, i probably will. I can’t recall anyone ever noticing, let alone giving me flack for it. But I’m a woman, so maybe that’s different. The only time i got flack about my beverage choices at work events was when i was pregnant. I would get my favorite “bar drink”, gingerale with cranberry juice and a twist of lime. Everyone felt it it was their business to quiz me about what i was drinking, and when i declined to answer (it’s none of their business) they lectured me on drinking while pregnant, a topic i knew a great deal more about than they did. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-and-the-worst-anecdote-in-sdmb-history/290468/424 "2023-05-30T14:46:44Z")
> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#): > > Yes, and our company DEI (Diversity, Equity and Inclusion) messaging tries to reinforce this, but somehow it doesn’t take for some people. Yeah, some people still insist on making other people’s bodies their business. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-and-the-worst-anecdote-in-sdmb-history/290468/425 "2023-05-30T15:16:21Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Aren’t there a number of cocktails that look like milk? Yes but in the story he didn’t see her with a glass of an unknown white beverage, he heard her order a milk. > [@Jasmine](#): > > The story itself seems bogus. Were I an attractive 35 year old male multi-millionaire, I can’t imagine hitting on a booth girl for a date. I’d be meeting beautiful, rich women at the high level events that beautiful, rich people attend. And you’d be in the minority. I can assure you that from what I’ve seen, most or at least a very significant percent would go for the booth girl. They get off on the power imbalance. In addition, there are way fewer rich women than rich men at these events still and much more so in even the recent past. I was well known for being a non drinker among my hard partier work environment colleagues in the 90s. No one ever gave me crap for that. Among my live music friends now, they generally see it as a virtue which is ridiculous because there is nothing virtuous about not doing something that I don’t like to do. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-and-the-worst-anecdote-in-sdmb-history/290468/426 "2023-05-30T15:19:27Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > you’d be in the minority. I can assure you that from what I’ve seen, most or at least a very significant percent would go for the booth girl. They get off on the power imbalance. Then they get into politics, and then they take a shot at a high office, and then the scandal comes out, and then they’re screwed. (pun intended) Sorry, I have a vivid imagination. LOL ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-and-the-worst-anecdote-in-sdmb-history/290468/427 "2023-05-30T17:23:24Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > In which thread does that unrepentant rape post appear? Here’s a link to the post, it was in a thread about pranks.Shagnasty held it out as an example of a perfect prank. > [@April Fool's pranks gone awry](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/april-fools-pranks-gone-awry/443679/13): > > It was a Halloween prank rather than an April Fools prank but I was talked into something that I never thought would work in a million years and didn’t really want it to. A friend enlisted me to switch places with him in the middle of a love-making session and then switch back again before his girlfriend even knew it. Everyone knows that is impossible…yet it worked perfectly because we had the same build, same type of hair, and same clothes on that night. We just used an unusually dark room at … ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2023, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-and-the-worst-anecdote-in-sdmb-history/290468/428 "2023-05-31T00:28:50Z")
That is somewhat downright disgusting behavior. And I don’t get some of the reaction to it. How is that _not_ rape? The woman did not consent to sex with him. And he’s not banned for that post? Wow. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2023, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-and-the-worst-anecdote-in-sdmb-history/290468/429 "2023-05-31T00:36:15Z")
We used to tolerate a lot of gross rape culture crap on this board that made it much harder to be a woman posting here. IIRC I’m the one who had the pleasure of banning **Shagnasty** years after he posted this, but even at the time, his hate speech against women was not sufficient. He could call women whores or whatever he liked with impunity, because I guess hate speech didn’t count if it was against women. Naw, to get rid of him, we had to bust him for harassing **Gwin.** Which he was definitely guilty of. I occasionally complain about the new guard being too heavy handed but I think today’s board would not have tolerated this, and that’s for the better. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2023, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-and-the-worst-anecdote-in-sdmb-history/290468/430 "2023-05-31T00:59:03Z")
To be fair (and in no way I am defending anything Shagnasty posted, especially the stuff glorifying rape), but they did eventually apologize, specifically about this shit. > [@I want to give a formal apology to the SDMB](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-give-a-formal-apology-to-the-sdmb/846200): > > My behavior over the years has been completely uneven and sometimes infamously terrible. My statements about women in particular were horrible. I am engaged to an extremely talented Episcopal priest against all probability. I was embarrassed when I realized she might find out some of what I wrote along with my mothers and daughters. Everything I have ever said is true but it was presented in an inflammatory way that I deeply regret. This is a completely sincere apology that no one else knows ab… How sincere it was, I dunno. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2023, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-and-the-worst-anecdote-in-sdmb-history/290468/431 "2023-05-31T02:01:44Z")
Shit like this is why I have a nice big belly laugh when some aggrieved asshole starts going on about how, gosh, these boards aren’t like how they used to be and isn’t it a cryin’ shame? ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2023, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-and-the-worst-anecdote-in-sdmb-history/290468/432 "2023-05-31T02:03:22Z")
What? You’re not nostalgic for the days of Evil Captor? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2023, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-and-the-worst-anecdote-in-sdmb-history/290468/433 "2023-05-31T02:44:59Z")
I know, I’m clearly part of the problem! ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2023, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-and-the-worst-anecdote-in-sdmb-history/290468/434 "2023-05-31T03:46:16Z")
So he apologized, but asserts the incident he related really happened? That’s one mighty forgiving priest! ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2023, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-and-the-worst-anecdote-in-sdmb-history/290468/435 "2023-05-31T04:02:49Z")
Ewww. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2023, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-and-the-worst-anecdote-in-sdmb-history/290468/436 "2023-05-31T11:29:54Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > So he apologized, but asserts the incident he related really happened? That’s one mighty forgiving priest! > [@I want to give a formal apology to the SDMB](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-give-a-formal-apology-to-the-sdmb/846200/1): > > I was embarrassed when I realized she might find out some of what I wrote along with my mothers and daughters. He apologized to the board, it doesn’t sound like he told his fiance. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2023, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-and-the-worst-anecdote-in-sdmb-history/290468/437 "2023-05-31T11:57:11Z")
What a fine upstanding example of humanity. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2023, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-and-the-worst-anecdote-in-sdmb-history/290468/438 "2023-05-31T12:41:48Z")
Has anyone in the history of the cosmos used the phrase “mothers and daughters” in a sincere apology? ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2023, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-and-the-worst-anecdote-in-sdmb-history/290468/439 "2023-05-31T16:07:17Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > How sincere it was, I dunno. Well, the gross behavior didn’t stop, so I’m going with “not very.” ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2023, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-and-the-worst-anecdote-in-sdmb-history/290468/440 "2023-05-31T17:20:19Z")
Yeah, that’s my recollection, too. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-and-the-worst-anecdote-in-sdmb-history/290468.md?page=21) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-and-the-worst-anecdote-in-sdmb-history/290468.md?page=23)