# Shagnasty is a misogynistic prick **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 15, 2017, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661 "2017-11-15T03:11:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/241 "2017-11-20T13:04:19Z")
> [@Penfeather](#): > > My new girlfriend the rich heiress invented junk mail! Her family owns the biggest Silly Putty factory in the Western hemisphere! She won Miss Gibraltar seven years in a row and then they retired her ballgown! She hosts her own home renovation TV show and can breathe through her feet! How _is_ Morgan Fairchild these days? ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/242 "2017-11-20T13:41:22Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > Luckily I found someone that meets those criteria and has the same problem. I will have to see how it goes today but it is very promising so far. You are a sad broken little toy and none of this will end well for you. ---
**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/243 "2017-11-20T13:57:55Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > You are a sad broken little toy and none of this will end well for you. Maybe but maybe not. I have had really good luck so far plus a whole lot of shitty outcomes. You pays yo’ money, you takes yo’ chances. All I know is that I have another date with a lovely heiress in a few hours that I really like. Most people never get those but I have starting with my ex-wife. Maybe being an arrogant prick is the key and I never denied being one of those. On the funny side, saying “none of this will end well for you” is basically the same thing that I got an official warning for even though I deleted it immediately. It was never a threat just like yours isn’t but some people overreact. Then again, maybe you know me better than I know myself. I am replying to this even though I said I wouldn’t and you predicted I would. You were certainly right. Bees and honey and all that. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/244 "2017-11-20T14:50:33Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > Let’s back up a bit. I was in a serious relationship and then marriage until I was 36. I had no experience with dating until then. My ex-wife literally just wound up in my bed because I left the door unlocked one night even though I barely knew her (was that sexual assault on her part?). > > . I’m betting it was your armpits, not a real woman. From the archives of the deep dark SDMB… _Shagnasty05-10-2006, 10:29 PM I have never had much problem with underarm odor. I have certainly never had strong BO. Many other people’s underarm odor smells like onions or perhaps some canned food gone bad. Mine smells like vagina. I ran out of deodorant about three weeks ago and after a few days I stuck a finger under there and smelled. It smelled exactly like pus. It is kind a turn on really. Each underarm has its own unique smell. I feel like I am holding two naked women, one under each arm. As far as I know, no one can smell this but me. If I were single, I could fake guys out with the old smell my finger for proof gambit. As it stands, I have no use for this super-ability._ ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/245 "2017-11-20T16:19:54Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > Maybe but maybe not. I have had really good luck so far plus a whole lot of shitty outcomes. You pays yo’ money, you takes yo’ chances. All I know is that I have another date with a lovely heiress in a few hours that I really like. Most people never get those but I have starting with my ex-wife. Maybe being an arrogant prick is the key and I never denied being one of those. > > On the funny side, saying “none of this will end well for you” is basically the same thing that I got an official warning for even though I deleted it immediately. It was never a threat just like yours isn’t but some people overreact. > > Then again, maybe you know me better than I know myself. I am replying to this even though I said I wouldn’t and you predicted I would. You were certainly right. Bees and honey and all that. Your problem isn’t arrogance. It’s your obvious lack of self-esteem and self-awareness that’s your greatest downfall. ---
**Author:** ![Maurie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df788c/32.png) [@Maurie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maurie)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/246 "2017-11-20T16:34:39Z")
> [@BeeGee](#): > > I’ve skipped over a lot of the posts and the previous train wreck so tell me this: Is there one single woman on this board who doesn’t think he’s absolutely brimming to the ears full of horseshit? I’d give anything to see a video of one of these dates to see what’s going on from a normal human perspective. I think he probably can occasionally come across as charming when he wants to and works at it, but that the self-importance and weird sense of superiority reveals itself fairly quickly. Stuff like his hilarious haughtiness about his [museum date’s attire](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20395855&postcount=394) would be obvious in an instant (and is the likely reason his date totally ditched him that day). > [@Shagnasty](#): > > Just another fact check and nothing more. My youngest daughter is a competitive gymnast and has two former Olympic coaches working with her. She was never forced into it and can drop out at any time. It is mortgage payment expensive and a huge time drain for everyone involved but it is her choice. I took her to a very large tournament today and she came in 1st on floor and beam but didn’t do as well on bars or vault. > > That sent her into hysterics because 2nd place or lower are all just losers in her mind. If you think girls are nicer than boys, you have never met competitive gymnasts. They can make Mean Girls look like a light comedy but I still like most of them. They are all ultra-competitive at the higher levels and have trained countless hours for years and they don’t like anything less than perfection. I always have to give the “just do your best and be a good sport” talk before any tournament but it hasn’t really sunk in yet. I was drowning in a sea of estrogen this morning including the mothers. > > She really can speak French fluently because she has been in a rare public schools French immersion program since kindergarten and has been to France multiple times. Her mother majored in French in college. > > She plays chess because her French immersion friends play Chess together during breaks at school. I still make sure to beat her to let her know who is boss but at least she knows how to play. > > I never said or even implied that I wanted to sleep with my own daughter. That is sick and offensive to claim. What I said was that I wondered why many women about 40 years old don’t have the skills of an 11 year old. I have no problem believing these pretty mundane claims about his daughter’s skills. My kids go to a French immersion school too, and we play chess all the time, and my daughter also spends a ridiculous number of hours a week working with former Olympians at a competitive sport (though is significantly more resilient when she doesn’t win everything all the time). Lots of kids do these things, and it’s great that he is proud of his daughter (though seriously, man. Literal hysterics over 2nd place is really gross.) What is puzzling is why he thinks the skills these 40 year old women have are less valuable than the ones his daughter has, and why he would compare them to _her_, rather than himself, you know? It would have come across a lot better (though still insufferably arrogant) had he listed his _own_ skills and interests and lamented his inability to find dates who were as accomplished as _he_ is. ---
**Author:** ![expectopatronum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/expectopatronum/32/173_2.png) [@expectopatronum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/expectopatronum)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/247 "2017-11-20T16:39:51Z")
Shags you are doing a terrible job at not responding to this thread. ---
**Author:** ![bobkitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c67d28/32.png) [@bobkitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobkitty)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/248 "2017-11-20T16:46:53Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > On the funny side, saying “none of this will end well for you” is basically the same thing that I got an official warning for even though I deleted it immediately. It was never a threat just like yours isn’t but some people overreact. No, it’s really not. The origin of QuickSilver’s phrase is easily found and clearly understood. Your threat comes after a multi-year history of bragging about exacting revenge on Those That Done You Wrong, even after years, as well as a history of criminal activity, and is coupled with an extreme disdain for women. The warning was the natural result of years of cultivating your persona as a badass hair-trigger thug when you imagine you’ve been slighted. Want to talk overreacting? Threatening to take revenge on a woman that doesn’t respond to your pathetic mating attempts on your timetable. ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/249 "2017-11-20T17:08:00Z")
It’s so odd…I’ve literally never heard anyone use the word “heir” or “heiress” in describing themselves or people they know in normal conversation. Like…never. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/250 "2017-11-20T17:12:25Z")
You know what? I’m am in no way an heiress, but I’m perfectly capable of supporting myself. I’m not sure why the only options are gold-digging leech hoping to take your daughters’ inheritance or heiress. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/251 "2017-11-20T17:32:03Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > You know what? I’m am in no way an heiress, but I’m perfectly capable of supporting myself. I’m not sure why the only options are gold-digging leech hoping to take your daughters’ inheritance or heiress. Because [BIRG](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basking_in_reflected_glory)ing. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/252 "2017-11-20T17:59:59Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Because [BIRG](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basking_in_reflected_glory)ing. Ah- see, now that makes sense. ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/253 "2017-11-20T18:02:47Z")
> [@Sarahfeena](#): > > It’s so odd…I’ve literally never heard anyone use the word “heir” or “heiress” in describing themselves or people they know in normal conversation. Like…never. I’ve noticed that he will never leave to the imagination any detail that even remotely reflects positively on him, no matter how irrelevant that detail is to the matter at hand. Kind of like that person who name drops constantly or goes out of their way to tell you what designer brands they own. His latest FB isn’t just a woman he met online. Nah, she’s a heiress…and a Jewish one at that! So you know she must rich, smart, and exotically beautiful. That’s the box he’s put her in in his brain, and that’s how he wants us to see her. Because if we assume she might just be a regular average woman, then we might see _him_ as average too. ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/254 "2017-11-20T18:04:30Z")
> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#): > > I’ve noticed that he will never leave to the imagination any detail that even remotely reflects positively on him, no matter how irrelevant that detail is to the matter at hand. Kind of like that person who name drops constantly or goes out of their way to tell you what designer brands they own. > > His latest FB isn’t just a woman he met online. Nah, she’s a heiress…and a Jewish one at that! So you know she must rich, smart, and exotically beautiful. That’s the box he’s put her in in his brain, and that’s how he wants us to see her. Because if we assume she might just be a regular average woman, then we might see _him_ as average too. Yes, I think you’re exactly right. The funny thing is, it’s such a meaningless word…I mean, I’m an heiress too, if you count the 1/4 share I’ll get in my parents’ house someday. ---
**Author:** ![erysichthon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d07c76/32.png) [@erysichthon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erysichthon)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/255 "2017-11-20T19:27:37Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > Then again, maybe you know me better than I know myself. I am replying to this even though I said I wouldn’t and you predicted I would. You were certainly right. Bees and honey and all that. It’s “_flies_ and honey.” You’re the fly in that relationship, not the bee. ---
**Author:** ![erysichthon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d07c76/32.png) [@erysichthon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erysichthon)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/256 "2017-11-20T19:35:27Z")
> [@expectopatronum](#): > > Shags you are doing a terrible job at not responding to this thread. I’m sure he’ll be back any moment now to explain that he’s really, really good at this online dating thing, and he has no problem getting multiple dates every week. Also, he’s super picky because he doesn’t want a gold digger or a hosebeast, but fortunately he has a date coming up with an heiress who meets all of his requirements. Oh, and that threat he posted and deleted was totally _not_ a threat, and has nothing to do with the myriad times he’s bragged about taking revenge on people. ---
**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/257 "2017-11-20T19:38:51Z")
> [@Sarahfeena](#): > > Yes, I think you’re exactly right. The funny thing is, it’s such a meaningless word…I mean, I’m an heiress too, if you count the 1/4 share I’ll get in my parents’ house someday. I suspect that his little town had a “society” column in the newspaper, next to the stories of barn fires, foot-and-mouth outbreaks and lynchings, and Shaggy latched onto the term heiress delightedly because his brain lives in the shittier parts of 1957 and women ought to be defined by either how they look or what they’re going to own. Here in 2017, it just looks weirdly anachronistic: I mean, I suppose I could call my wife “the Japanese heiress”, but it would look silly. ---
**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/258 "2017-11-20T19:47:33Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Because [BIRG](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basking_in_reflected_glory)ing. > [@](#): > > The opposite of BIRGing is cutting off reflected failure (CORFing). This is the idea that people tend to disassociate themselves from lower-status individuals because they do not want their reputations affected by associating with the people who are considered failures. Turn your head and CORF. ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/259 "2017-11-20T21:27:33Z")
> [@Penfeather](#): > > I suspect that his little town had a “society” column in the newspaper, next to the stories of barn fires, foot-and-mouth outbreaks and lynchings, and Shaggy latched onto the term heiress delightedly because his brain lives in the shittier parts of 1957 and women ought to be defined by **either how they look or what they’re going to own.** And how much of a big shot their daddy is. Because it’s all about breeding. The only proper mate of an heir is an heiress. Anything less and he’s settling for a hose beast charity case. ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/260 "2017-11-20T21:57:37Z")
> [@Penfeather](#): > > I suspect that his little town had a “society” column in the newspaper, next to the stories of barn fires, foot-and-mouth outbreaks and lynchings, and Shaggy latched onto the term heiress delightedly because his brain lives in the shittier parts of 1957 and women ought to be defined by either how they look or what they’re going to own. Here in 2017, it just looks weirdly anachronistic: I mean, I suppose I could call my wife “the Japanese heiress”, but it would look silly. Exactly! I mean, I know a few people who are going to come into a looooooot of cash someday (apparently there’s more than one junk mail empire in the world, who’d have thunk it?) and trying to picture any of them referring to themselves as an “heiress” is just hilarious. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661.md?page=14)