# Shagnasty is a misogynistic prick **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 15, 2017, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661 "2017-11-15T03:11:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2017, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/421 "2017-11-23T14:37:57Z")
This thread reads like a mad pathological grab bag. Someone mentioned Histrionic Personality Disorder up thread. If the shoe fits… ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2017, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/422 "2017-11-23T14:56:56Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > I may have some issues but erectile dysfunction isn’t among them. I am also one of the rare males that is multi-orgasmic just like some women are. I am pretty sure if you matched me up with the right partner right now, I could go for hours without a break. When I get turned on, I am really “on”. See guys- if you can’t go for 6 hours straight, its erectile dysfunction. ---
**Author:** ![Razncain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9d8465/32.png) [@Razncain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Razncain)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2017, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/423 "2017-11-23T15:14:33Z")
Just seems if Shag had inherited his money, he wouldn’t have been spending any time with wealthy gay guys 20+ years his senior, just so long as they brought the cash. He says he’s proud to be around them but only in a platonic way, also commenting they have taken care of him in ways he never imagined (refresh #77). Which if truly platonic, implies he’s exploiting them for money, but I doubt some wealthy gay guy is going to be giving him money for just conversation. Regardelsss, of what goes on there, people born into money don’t need to get it like this. ---
**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2017, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/424 "2017-11-23T15:26:02Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > Why do work if you are so wealthy? Why do you have to go on dating sights for dates?. Aren’t the wealthy 1% in some kind of exclusive dating pool, that we poor slobs can’t get near? Are you and Trump on first name basis? Game of golf scheduled at that exclusive locale you going to tomarrow? Sheesh, dude, just stop. You’re digging your hole deeper. There is no deeper hole. I dug it myself a long time ago and was lucky that it worked out at all but it did. As to the dating website thing, that is the most efficient way to get as many high-quality women as possible and I know how to spot them. I am not in the 1% myself yet but I am getting up there and it is hard to meet people like that in real life but it is easy if you read hundreds of profiles a day and screen for income, zip code and looks. I already found one that I like a lot but she is in Long Island now until we go out again on Sunday. It becomes a real addiction that I need to deal with soon. I just opened up my email and was presented with someone else that is a stunning dentist in an exclusive Boston suburb that is already retired in her 40’s. I couldn’t resist firing a nice message off and I don’t know what will happen if she responds. When you learn to play the game well in a major metropolitan area, the choices are endless and sometimes paralyzing. It is difficult to just pick someone and stick with them when new ones come in every single day. I am going to my ex SIL’s house in a few hours for Thanksgiving. I stay with my ex wife sometimes including hotel rooms and I would screw the shit out of her for old times sake if that was socially acceptable. We don’t do that but I wonder why? I am not very sexually or emotionally conservative. ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2017, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/425 "2017-11-23T15:44:06Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > I just opened up my email and was presented with someone else that is a stunning dentist in an exclusive Boston suburb that is already retired in her 40’s. I couldn’t resist firing a nice message off and I don’t know what will happen if she responds. When you learn to play the game well in a major metropolitan area, the choices are endless and sometimes paralyzing. It is difficult to just pick someone and stick with them when new ones come in every single day. So much for being in a relationship. ---
**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2017, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/426 "2017-11-23T15:53:28Z")
> [@bucketybuck](#): > > So much for being in a relationship. I sort of am but we haven’t formalized everything yet. She could be going out with other people back home today for all I know. That is a legitimate deep flaw on my part. I had to teach myself how to play the game and I got a little too good at it. Now I can pick up most women and make them feel comfortable just like my father could. It is a good skill to have but you have to know that you can’t abuse it. I really want a solid relationship and I am developing one but the new opportunities sometimes become a little much. I really want to focus on the Long Island Girl but she hasn’t been around much for the past couple of weeks because of her grandfather’s death and other family drama and my mind starts to wander. That is something I will have to work on. I am not a player by nature but it is easy to go in that direction when you get distracted. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2017, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/427 "2017-11-23T15:58:54Z")
At least we know Starbucks is open on Thanksgiving. **Shagnasty** has found an unsecured Wifi connection. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2017, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/428 "2017-11-23T16:16:13Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > As to the dating website thing, that is the most efficient way to get as many high-quality women as possible and I know how to spot them. But not keep them. > [@Shagnasty](#): > > It becomes a real addiction [You can get professional help for your behaviour.](https://www.google.ca/search?rlz=1C1KAFA_enCA591CA591&biw=1522&bih=756&ei=l_MWWvbbO8O4jAPz7p2IDA&q=%2Btreatment%2C+mythomania%2C+pathological+lying%2C+pseudologia+fantastica%2C+compulsive+lying%2C+narcissism%2C+borderline+personality+disorder%2C+bipolar+disorder%2C&oq=%2Btreatment%2C+mythomania%2C+pathological+lying%2C+pseudologia+fantastica%2C+compulsive+lying%2C+narcissism%2C+borderline+personality+disorder%2C+bipolar+disorder%2C&gs_l=psy-ab.3...11382.42430.0.44167.23.15.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..23.0.0....0.D4KdEFQQ18w) ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2017, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/429 "2017-11-23T16:28:08Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > See guys- if you can’t go for 6 hours straight, its erectile dysfunction. Well they do tell you to call a doctor after four hours. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2017, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/430 "2017-11-23T16:31:09Z")
Did any of that make any sense to anyone? ---
**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2017, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/431 "2017-11-23T16:38:45Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > But not keep them. > > [You can get professional help for your behaviour.](https://www.google.ca/search?rlz=1C1KAFA_enCA591CA591&biw=1522&bih=756&ei=l_MWWvbbO8O4jAPz7p2IDA&q=%2Btreatment%2C+mythomania%2C+pathological+lying%2C+pseudologia+fantastica%2C+compulsive+lying%2C+narcissism%2C+borderline+personality+disorder%2C+bipolar+disorder%2C&oq=%2Btreatment%2C+mythomania%2C+pathological+lying%2C+pseudologia+fantastica%2C+compulsive+lying%2C+narcissism%2C+borderline+personality+disorder%2C+bipolar+disorder%2C&gs_l=psy-ab.3...11382.42430.0.44167.23.15.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..23.0.0....0.D4KdEFQQ18w) I am admittedly not good at keeping them although that is usually for the better. It is more about catch and release. As to the lying accusations, that is the inside joke. People in real life have accused me of that as well. The shocker is when they find out that it is all true. I don’t think I am a good person at all and I am deeply flawed but I do have my talents and live within unusual circumstances. My personality dictates that I always try to push the envelope to see what is possible and I don’t like to live according to other people’s wishes. That generates some improbable positive outcomes and a whole lot more spectacular failures. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2017, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/432 "2017-11-23T16:54:26Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > I don’t think I am a good person at all and I am deeply flawed but I do have my talents and live within unusual circumstances. My personality dictates that I always try to push the envelope to see what is possible and I don’t like to live according to other people’s wishes. That generates some improbable positive outcomes and a whole lot more spectacular failures. None of this speaks well of you, and it’s actually quite revealing. If anything, it only confirms most of what I’ve already suspected – you have some kind of personality disorder, and you should probably seek professional help. ---
**Author:** ![Fuji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@Fuji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuji)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2017, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/433 "2017-11-23T17:13:18Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > None of this speaks well of you, and it’s actually quite revealing. If anything, it only confirms most of what I’ve already suspected – you have some kind of personality disorder, and you should probably seek professional help. The thing is, if he has the personality disorder I think he does (ASPD), then there really isn’t anything a professional can do to fix him. From the Martha Stout [interview](https://www.interviewmagazine.com/culture/conscience-lack-of#/_) I quoted earlier: > [@](#): > > STOUT: The ultimate manipulation is to kill someone, and sociopathy is murderous in a psychological sense—there’s a kind of soul-murder going on. The reason I want to explain that you’re probably never going to get revenge and you’re also probably not going to redeem this person, is that it is not a project that will ever succeed. **At present, if a person does not have a conscience, we know of no way to instill one—not even a little bit.** It’s not like something you can take off the shelf and put into somebody’s brain. It makes me so sad to hear people say, “I think I can see just a little bit of a conscience,” or “Maybe if I wait a little bit longer,” or “Maybe if I love him just a little bit more,” or “Maybe if I’m a good enough role model he’ll pick up on that and learn to have a conscience, and care about other people . . .” > > (emphasis added) ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2017, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/434 "2017-11-23T17:31:21Z")
Reading that interview, I get you can’t help these kinds of people. And we are giving him what he wants: undivided attention. So I, for one will cease doing this. I am done. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2017, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/435 "2017-11-23T17:37:08Z")
I have a pimped out Civic, and four wives! ---
**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2017, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/436 "2017-11-23T19:10:23Z")
> [@razncain](#): > > Regardelsss, of what goes on there, people born into money don’t need to get it like this. People born into money and fighting off attractive women don’t spend hours on a backwater message board desperately trying to convince random anonymous strangers of it, either. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Nylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2017, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/437 "2017-11-23T19:59:44Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > I like how his family went from being dirt poor to world renowned motivational speakers and travelers. Quite a feat, wouldn’t you say? This is what makes the narcissism label plausible to me - the extreme of everything. It’s never “We were moderately well off and then had financial success . . .” it’s always "We were the poorest of the poor . . . we were so poor . . . then we were rich, fabulously rich . . . more rich than you can shake a stick at . . . " or some similar extremes of anything anyone is talking about. I work with a guy like that, it was very confusing at first to try to find any consistency in anything he said or did but then I began to realize that he just needed attention - much more than your average person. After that epiphany, his behavior was far more predictable to me, and tedious. I mostly try to avoid him. I’m not one to throw the narcissism label around willy-nilly either, my parents always did that, it was very annoying. I don’t even apply the label to Trump - not to say that there aren’t other similarly bad labels that could be applied to him that I find plausible. And let’s face it, everyone’s a bit of a narcissist to a certain degree. ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2017, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/438 "2017-11-23T21:08:34Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > I sort of am but we haven’t formalized everything yet. And yet you called her your girlfriend in post #320, two days / 8 fucks ago. ---
**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2017, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/439 "2017-11-23T22:24:35Z")
> [@Morbo](#): > > And yet you called her your girlfriend in post #320, two days / 8 fucks ago. Thank you, I was just about to go looking for that one. ---
**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2017, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/440 "2017-11-23T22:26:12Z")
> [@cmyk](#): > > This is a relationship already? Does she know that? > [@Shagnasty](#): > > Yes, we worked it out over a lunch date. I basically knew it already and it is a new one but it is a relationship. I am not sure where it is going to go because we both already have kids that take up most of our time and don’t believe in marriage but we are oddly loyal at the same time. It is fun making out in the Gillette stadium parking lot during lunch as an adult. It harkens back to my teenage years but with a renewed sense of perspective. I actually know how to do it now without being nervous. And this. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661.md?page=21) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661.md?page=23)