# Shagnasty is a misogynistic prick

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 15, 2017, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661 "2017-11-15T03:11:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![bobkitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c67d28/32.png) [@bobkitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobkitty)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/561 "2017-11-27T16:19:25Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> So **Shagnasty** , do you also dislike minorities and poor people, or do you just prefer to date people who do?

He pretty much already answered you:

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> I basically just formed a team of two people just like me.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/562 "2017-11-27T16:26:01Z")

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Anyone else notice that the “receipt” is for one? Not sure he’s really treating her to anything but the “pleasure” of his company, if she even exists.

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**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/563 "2017-11-27T17:30:14Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> Anyone else notice that the “receipt” is for one? Not sure he’s really treating her to anything but the “pleasure” of his company, if she even exists.

That is a weird finding. And the thing is, I don’t doubt anything he’s told us. You’d think if he was going to lie about his awesome dating life, he’d pick something more impressive to go on about than an $75 go-kart outing that lasted all of 7 min.

> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> One tip is, if you want a date to really like you, take him or her to a shooting range, a high-speed Go-Kart track, skydiving, an ATV park, on roller-coasters or something similar and not to Starbucks. They will be all over you when it is done.

What these activities all have in common is that they cause a rush in endorphins; coincidentally, so does infatuation. Fun stuff indeed, but what happens when all the thrills have been exhausted?

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**Author:** ![DooWahDiddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e9bcb4/32.png) [@DooWahDiddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DooWahDiddy)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/564 "2017-11-27T17:43:40Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> They will be all over you when it is done.

I think you mean “They will be all over you until about 10:15 or so, when you have to go back to Mom’s basement”.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/565 "2017-11-27T17:48:57Z")

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> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#):
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> …
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> What these activities all have in common is that they cause a rush in endorphins; coincidentally, so does infatuation. Fun stuff indeed, but what happens when all the thrills have been exhausted?

By then his date is leaking and almost out of air.

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**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/566 "2017-11-27T18:02:31Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> Anyone else notice that the “receipt” is for one? Not sure he’s really treating her to anything but the “pleasure” of his company, if she even exists.

No, it’s for two. They just list each person separately, one after the other, with each person having two separate fees charged. Like a restaurant receipt might do:

1 chicken combo 6.00  
1 med soft drink 3.00  
1 lasagna 7.50  
1 pecan pie 5.00

etc.

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**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/567 "2017-11-27T18:18:23Z")

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Well, at least if it’s true, they’re perfect for each other and aren’t out screwing over decent people who deserve much better than either of them.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/568 "2017-11-27T18:23:02Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> I think she was mostly kidding but with an underlying grain of truth. She is pretty funny in general and she isn’t mean to anyone. She is certainly not a liberal or progressive with an agenda so that scores huge points with me. She is just dealing with reality because she works in real estate management and has to deal with Section 8 people (subsidized housing) people all the time and that will burn anyone out. It is pretty hard to find anti-PC babes that like extreme sports, especially drag racing, around these parts. She reminds me a lot of Marisa Tomei in My Cousin Vinny.

This mega-corp for which you work— would it happen to be Vandelay Industries?

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**Author:** ![expectopatronum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/expectopatronum/32/173_2.png) [@expectopatronum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/expectopatronum)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/569 "2017-11-27T19:15:46Z")

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I think I’ve created a monster here

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**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/570 "2017-11-27T19:31:34Z")

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Naw, hon, you just turned the rock over.

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**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/571 "2017-11-27T19:34:19Z")

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> [@expectopatronum](#):
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> I think I’ve created a monster here

I don’t think you created the monster. He’s been here all along. Your thread does seem to have spurred him to new depths.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/572 "2017-11-27T20:29:21Z")

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> [@StarvingButStrong](#):
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> No, it’s for two. They just list each person separately, one after the other, with each person having two separate fees charged. Like a restaurant receipt might do:
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> 1 chicken combo 6.00  
> 1 med soft drink 3.00  
> 1 lasagna 7.50  
> 1 pecan pie 5.00
> 
> etc.

My apologies. I missed that.

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**Author:** ![chaika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chaika/32/405_2.png) [@chaika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chaika)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/573 "2017-11-27T20:33:22Z")

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Well, as long as we’re sharing, here’s my receipt from dinner the other night:

Anne-Sophie Pic  
Valence, France

Ticket#\*\*\*\*\*\*  
Date: 25/11/2017  
Served by Pierre

1 Nine-course meal €330.00  
1 Nine-course meal €330.00

Total €660.00

Oh, and here’s my receipt for our plane tickets to Paris:

1 Adult IAD - CDG (First class) $19623.00  
1 Adult IAD - CDG (First class) $19623.00

Taxes and fees $376.00

Total $39622.00

Let me look for our hotel bill and I’ll post that receipt too.

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**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/574 "2017-11-27T21:04:03Z")

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> [@expectopatronum](#):
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> I think I’ve created a monster here

> [@SmartAleq](#):
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> Naw, hon, you just turned the rock over.

Indeed. Of all the things I thought I might one day see on the Dope, demands for date receipts - and attempts to grant them - would never have made the list.

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**Author:** ![erysichthon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d07c76/32.png) [@erysichthon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erysichthon)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/575 "2017-11-27T23:06:37Z")

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> [@SmartAleq](#):
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> Naw, hon, you just turned the rock over.

Before this thread started, I was one of those people who accepted some of **Shagnasty** ’s statements at face value, but was skeptical about other things (such as the “heiresses” he dates).

However, after watching him frenetically pile claims on top of claims, I’ve decided that _nothing_ he says can be trusted. It’s like he’s always trying to top what he said five words ago. Maybe there are some bits of truth in there, like the occasional peanut in a box of Cracker Jacks, but it’s not worth the time or effort to sort out.

He makes **aceplace57** , with his imaginary family and missing son, look like a rank amateur.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/576 "2017-11-27T23:11:30Z")

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I won’t speculate on **Shagnasty’s** honesty – I’ve noticed that my bullshit-detector for disingenuousness is pretty damn poor. But by his posts in this thread and others, he’s either a shitty person with a complete lack of self awareness, or a liar/troll. Hopefully the latter, considering that he claims to be raising children.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/577 "2017-11-27T23:46:26Z")

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> [@chaika](#):
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> Well, as long as we’re sharing, here’s my receipt from dinner the other night:
> 
> Anne-Sophie Pic  
> Valence, France
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> Ticket#\*\*\*\*\*\*  
> Date: 25/11/2017  
> Served by Pierre
> 
> 1 Nine-course meal €330.00  
> 1 Nine-course meal €330.00
> 
> Total €660.00
> 
> Oh, and here’s my receipt for our plane tickets to Paris:
> 
> 1 Adult IAD - CDG (First class) $19623.00  
> 1 Adult IAD - CDG (First class) $19623.00
> 
> Taxes and fees $376.00
> 
> Total $39622.00
> 
> Let me look for our hotel bill and I’ll post that receipt too.

Special occasion?

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/578 "2017-11-27T23:52:56Z")

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> [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](#):
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> This thread isn’t even entertaining anymore. It’s just sad.

> [@erysichthon](#):
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> Before this thread started, I was one of those people who accepted some of **Shagnasty** ’s statements at face value, but was skeptical about other things (such as the “heiresses” he dates).
> 
> However, after watching him frenetically pile claims on top of claims, I’ve decided that _nothing_ he says can be trusted. It’s like he’s always trying to top what he said five words ago. Maybe there are some bits of truth in there, like the occasional peanut in a box of Cracker Jacks, but it’s not worth the time or effort to sort out.
> 
> He makes **aceplace57** , with his imaginary family and missing son, look like a rank amateur.

Pretty much. It’s not even worth pointing them out anymore, like my new favorite, that he’s at home now and doesn’t have access to his office “scanner” so how on Earth could he digitize this go-kart receipt for us?

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**Author:** ![expectopatronum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/expectopatronum/32/173_2.png) [@expectopatronum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/expectopatronum)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/579 "2017-11-27T23:57:57Z")

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For whatever it’s worth, I didn’t start the thread because I thought he was making everything up. My issue with Shags was purely the misogyny that drips from virtually any post he makes about women. I have no idea if he’s making up his dating adventures or anything else. I suspect that the inconsistencies in his posts are due to a multitude of factors - withheld details, embellishments, half-truths, misremembered events, etc. And I think that’s probably true of many trainwreck du jour posters that have come and gone. Not that we haven’t gotten trolls here that made up things out of whole cloth but it’s not the case all the time or even most of the time.

I’m not defending Shags here at all but there can be kind of a mob mentality that takes over in these sorts of threads and sometimes people go a little too crazy playing internet detective. I understand why it happens because posters have let their frustrations build up with certain personalities around here and once someone pits them, it all comes out and here we are 12 pages later. I mean, do we really need a receipt from the guy for a date he claimed the go on? What good will that do anyone? I almost regret starting this thread, not because of any of this but just because in the end Shags is reveling in the attention. It’s bad attention, but it’s still attention. But that horse is out of the barn now and in the end it’s not a bad thing to start something where people can vent their Shags-related frustrations. I’ll still be following along and will respond as needed.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/580 "2017-11-28T00:10:04Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> You have to register for membership before you race and the receipt has my real name and her name plus billing details right on it in bold. I am sure why you can understand why I am not willing to post that in an adversarial thread and I don’t have access to a scanner

Much less a phone with a camera and a crop function, huh?

You keep doing you.

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