# Shagnasty is a misogynistic prick

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 15, 2017, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661 "2017-11-15T03:11:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Tibby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tibby/32/17030_2.png) [@Tibby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tibby)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/621 "2017-11-28T19:28:35Z")

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> [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](#):
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> I would also love to see what he looks like. \<snip\>

[Family shot](https://static1.squarespace.com/static/53769b9ae4b0cc86709aa520/537aa025e4b0d6833769f2a0/537baca0e4b08e34bab7e5da/1400614063639/BusterKeatonwithFamily.jpg?format=500w), as youth.

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**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/622 "2017-11-29T03:31:22Z")

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> [@expectopatronum](#):
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> Shags, come on man. When you offered to take me out, you preceded that by saying I was “pretty hot in an unusual way”. Is it any wonder I interpreted that as a come on? If you meant it purely as a gesture of friendship, what do my looks have to do with anything?
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> You called a successful career women a poor partner when you referred to your ex, I asked you why, and you never responded. I concluded the reason you said such women made poor partners was because they are not content to be your arm trophy or your fuck toy, that they want more out of their lives and out of themselves than to be someone’s arm-candy.

I don’t go out with ugly women even as friends. It is usually a symptom of something else. I wasn’t hitting on you and I never actually threatened you. We could do something fun in two seconds because I have real female friends and really don’t make a distinction even if they are married. They are safe with me and everyone knows that.

I don’t want pure arm candy from rich girls. I have had that before and all it results in is heartache and a drained bank account when you can’t keep up with their multi-millionaire fathers. What I want is female affection that actually has some returns. I went out with my Long Island heiress today for lunch and I paid yet again. Then I went to see my daughters and the same thing happened until I put a stop to it. They are all treating me like an ATM and I have to play defense or they will bankrupt me eventually.

It is ridiculous to think that I am a misogynist. I live my life serving women and they get the majority of the money I work very hard for plus lots of work and respect.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/623 "2017-11-29T03:39:49Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> I don’t go out with ugly women even as friends.

But:

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> It is ridiculous to think that I am a misogynist.

:dubious:

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**Author:** ![expectopatronum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/expectopatronum/32/173_2.png) [@expectopatronum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/expectopatronum)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/624 "2017-11-29T03:44:31Z")

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Shags, what? I never said you threatened me.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/625 "2017-11-29T03:46:27Z")

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Comedy gold, Jerry. Comedy gold.

Eta: referring to **Guinastasia’s** quote.

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**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/626 "2017-11-29T04:10:36Z")

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> Comedy gold, Jerry. Comedy gold.
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> Eta: referring to **Guinastasia’s** quote.

I don’t go out with ugly men even as friends either. Most of them are just disgusting. There is a reason why my daughters have a Golden-doddle rather than an English Bulldog or a Pug. It takes a whole lot or personality to make up for that and most of them just don’t have it.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/627 "2017-11-29T04:51:10Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> It is ridiculous to think that I am a misogynist.

I hate to break it to you, Shagmeister, but as much as you think of yourself as being _the_ misogynist, you are really only just _a_ misogynist.

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**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/628 "2017-11-29T04:58:16Z")

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> [@expectopatronum](#):
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> Shags, what? I never said you threatened me.

I got an official warning because a so-called threat that I deleted immediately because I realized it sounded bad but it was reported before I could edit it because people were waiting. There was never any real-life threat. All I said was “this won’t out work well for you” but I was just referring to board moderation and life in general. I am not a threat to anyone and I love taking female friends out even if there is nothing romantic about it at all.

I am not mad at you at all either for starting this thread because I truly believe you did it in good faith. Sometimes things need to be said but I can tell you I can’t change my fundamental personality and a lot of people don’t want me to. The same isn’t true for the sportos, the motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, wastoids, dweebies and dickheads. They are just trying to join the pile. I have been dealing with it my entire life and it doesn’t always work out well.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/629 "2017-11-29T05:04:01Z")

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What the heck is wrong with pugs? They are adorably cute. But really Shags, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If your kids see you have issue with looks and position, or how big a bank account they have, it will not teach them to have empathy for the human condition. You are doing them a great disservice by not teaching by example and works to care about the sick, disabled and down trodden. It is close to child neglect, IMO.

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**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/630 "2017-11-29T05:36:28Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> What the heck is wrong with pugs? They are adorably cute. But really Shags, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If your kids see you have issue with looks and position, or how big a bank account they have, it will not teach them to have empathy for the human condition. You are doing them a great disservice by not teaching by example and works to care about the sick, disabled and down trodden. It is close to child neglect, IMO.

They are pretty, spoiled rich girls. They don’t have to worry about it. I grew up around poverty and don’t want them to have to go through that so I prevented it by moving to an exclusive town in Massachusetts where poverty doesn’t exist. It is a whole different mentality. Poor people aren’t just middle-class people with less money. The value systems are completely different. That doesn’t mean that I hate all of them; I don’t and I love many poor people. Some of them are quite personable even if they are destined for failure and a few make it out. I just don’t want my daughters associating with them because the risks are too high.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/631 "2017-11-29T05:58:29Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> They are pretty, spoiled rich girls. They don’t have to worry about it. I grew up around poverty and don’t want them to have to go through that so I prevented it by moving to an exclusive town in Massachusetts where poverty doesn’t exist. It is a whole different mentality. Poor people aren’t just middle-class people with less money. The value systems are completely different. That doesn’t mean that I hate all of them; I don’t and I love many poor people. Some of them are quite personable even if they are destined for failure and a few make it out. I just don’t want my daughters associating with them because the risks are too high.

:smack:

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/632 "2017-11-29T06:04:13Z")

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8 hours and even you couldn’t keep it up. Your bullshit trollery could not be more transparent. Shine on you crazy diamond.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/633 "2017-11-29T06:15:07Z")

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Yea, I would say they are at risk. I have 3 kids, my youngest being the most spoiled (according to her sibs), she selflessly spent part of her Thanksgiving break at a shelter near her college. Her theatre group volunteered to help with food prep. I am a serial volunteer, she has watched me do this her whole life and she is the most caring of young people. That’s not to say she is not spoiled and showered with love. I couldn’t live with myself if I had raised greedy and uppity children. It is just not the right thing to do. If you were so poor as a young person you would know this, and would, therefore try to fight the ignorance of the thing. You will be sorry when your young girls grow up to be greedy young women and get in bad relationships all because they are looking for the wrong kind of person to be with.

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/634 "2017-11-29T10:23:37Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> The same isn’t true for the sportos, the motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, wastoids, sweeties and dickheads. They are just trying to join the pile. I have been dealing with it my entire life and it doesn’t always work out well.

Ferris Bueller quotes make you more obvious, troll, not less.

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**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/635 "2017-11-29T12:45:17Z")

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> [@Morbo](#):
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> Ferris Bueller quotes make you more obvious, troll, not less.

Believe it or not, I am not a troll and you got the joke so good for you. It is just reality to me. All I am doing is amplifying me real personality and none of it is made up. I am pretty quiet and introverted in real life but I do make some of the oddest decisions and I am a thrill seeker. I like to find women like me. They are rare but they do exist. Once we join forces, no good can come from it but we don’t hurt anyone else either.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/636 "2017-11-29T13:22:17Z")

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If your real-life personality is— as you continually portray it— that of a clueless, self-involved, raging douchebag asshole, maybe you could try turning the knob counterclockwise a little bit instead, just to see what happens?

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**Author:** ![Fuji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@Fuji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuji)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/637 "2017-11-29T13:45:09Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> It takes a whole lot or personality to make up for that and most of them just don’t have it.

(Speaking to the rest of you, not this pathetic asshole)

Interesting. So, by implication, if you’re physically attractive, then you don’t have to possess “a whole lot of personality” to make the cut as one of this douchebag’s inner circle. Again, what a pathetic self-assertion to make in a public forum…

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/638 "2017-11-29T13:56:04Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> …blah…blah…blah…

JFC, Shaggy. This gets more pathetic with every post. What the fuck happened in your life to make you this broken? Get some therapy. And a huge dose of “Get Over Yourself” to fuck-start your brain.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/639 "2017-11-29T15:50:50Z")

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For the sake of your daughters, give them up for adoption.

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**Author:** ![Maurie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df788c/32.png) [@Maurie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maurie)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/640 "2017-11-29T16:57:34Z")

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> [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](#):
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> That’s part of his schtick. He thinks he is interesting and different. From his writing style, to his personality, to his family, everything is unique. But none of it really is.

I guess you’re right. I just think he really does his daughter a disservice by exaggerating her accomplishments. I don’t care what kind of embellishments he wants to put on his own goings-on, and it’s awesome that he’s so proud of her, but inflating his tales about her actually diminishes what she does in reality, and that’s sad.

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