# Shagnasty is a misogynistic prick **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 15, 2017, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661 "2017-11-15T03:11:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 35
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/681 "2017-11-30T14:43:05Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > Zero, including that one. It is just a difference in perspective. No. You wrote previously that you had engaged in light petting which you defined as touching over a bra. That’s sexual assault. Now, you are saying that it was only kissing, and because your previous statement has been linked to, this direct contradiction is an implicit admission that your prior statement was a fabrication. So, you have admitted you lied previously. There is no difference in perspective. Either you lied then, which you have now admitted, or you backtrack that admission and confirm that you are lying now. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/682 "2017-11-30T15:06:51Z")
For the people playing along at home, these are [the posts](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7256450&postcount=12): > [@](#): > > You would assume that a woman could tell a substitution in lovers but she could not. We made out for a good 20 minutes and I gently grunted and groaned if talking came into play. The good news is that I didn’t want to get too deep into this whole thing and as luck would have it, she was on her period that night so there was no actual sex and I would not have done that anyway. **It was mainly kissing and light petting.** [and](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9657877&postcount=143) > [@](#): > > BTW, light petting in this case just means the occasional boob touch through a bra. He’s adamant now that it was only kissing, so it’s an implicit admission of fabrication in his original tale. ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/683 "2017-11-30T15:40:31Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > What did I write? That I wanted to screw my own daughters? No, of course not because that is disgusting and nothing I would ever consider. I am a loving father, not a child molester. It is baffling why people keep hinting at that and that is not something that I take lightly nor should anyone. This is why folks are riding you: Most parents can’t imagine comparing their children with their dating partners. They just can’t. You’re revealing a lot about your mindset that you’d even refer to her in that manner: _it indicates your pride in her comes from seeing her as a woman worth lusting over_. Not for being a person in her own right. Here’s another the thing: parental love and affection should be unconditional; romantic attraction is not. So it’s great and all that you think your daughter is pure perfection, but since she’s a product of your (narcissistic) loins, you’re predisposed to seeing her that way. Obviously no other women are going to compare to her if you’re using your feelings for your daughter as a yardstick for them. That’s why healthy people have different standards for their kids than they do their lovers. ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/684 "2017-11-30T18:56:31Z")
> [@TokyoBayer](#): > > For the people playing along at home, these are [the posts](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7256450&postcount=12): > [and](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9657877&postcount=143) > > He’s adamant now that it was only kissing, so it’s an implicit admission of fabrication in his original tale. And as I also pointed out in Post #69, he has stated that the assault was [his idea](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9647863&postcount=21), so all this “maybe she was in on it! _I_ was the victim, Tee Hee!” is more stupid lying bullshit: > [@](#): > > I was the brains behind the operation and I would try to figure out how to make their ideas work although none of the others were in the same category. I never expected that plan to work yet it did. Once it started, there was no obvious jumping off point so I felt I had to ride it to its conclusion. ---
**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/685 "2017-11-30T19:14:46Z")
> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#): > > This is why folks are riding you: Most parents can’t imagine comparing their children with their dating partners. They just can’t. You’re revealing a lot about your mindset that you’d even refer to her in that manner: _it indicates your pride in her comes from seeing her as a woman worth lusting over_. Not for being a person in her own right. > > Here’s another the thing: parental love and affection should be unconditional; romantic attraction is not. So it’s great and all that you think your daughter is pure perfection, but since she’s a product of your (narcissistic) loins, you’re predisposed to seeing her that way. Obviously no other women are going to compare to her if you’re using your feelings for your daughter as a yardstick for them. That’s why healthy people have different standards for their kids than they do their lovers. ‘Every vagina is a potentially available vagina!’ /horrifying/ ---
**Author:** ![expectopatronum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/expectopatronum/32/173_2.png) [@expectopatronum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/expectopatronum)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/686 "2017-11-30T20:15:16Z")
> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#): > > This is why folks are riding you: Most parents can’t imagine comparing their children with their dating partners. They just can’t. You’re revealing a lot about your mindset that you’d even refer to her in that manner: _it indicates your pride in her comes from seeing her as a woman worth lusting over_. Not for being a person in her own right. > > Here’s another the thing: parental love and affection should be unconditional; romantic attraction is not. So it’s great and all that you think your daughter is pure perfection, but since she’s a product of your (narcissistic) loins, you’re predisposed to seeing her that way. Obviously no other women are going to compare to her if you’re using your feelings for your daughter as a yardstick for them. That’s why healthy people have different standards for their kids than they do their lovers. Very well said. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/687 "2017-11-30T20:44:25Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > Everything I write is true. No it isn’t. > [@](#): > > I am not that creative. True. > [@](#): > > I only write about exceptional things. You’re a pathetic middle-aged manchild who writes about his creepy opinions of women and his go-kart rides. You don’t write about exceptional things, either. ---
**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/688 "2017-11-30T21:16:58Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > You’re a pathetic middle-aged manchild who writes about his creepy opinions of women and his go-kart rides. You don’t write about exceptional things, either. :burp: Oops fart ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/689 "2017-11-30T21:33:04Z")
> [@bucketybuck](#): > > You do know that we can all read, yeah? That we all can read the version of that story that you posted numerous times before? The one that is different to the sanitised version you are trying to push now? > > What is it with rapists and trying to distort the truth? Beside, maybe she was in on it, and therefore was\* literally asking for it.\* ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/690 "2017-11-30T22:02:34Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > :burp: > > Oops fart Hey, you’re improving! ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/691 "2017-11-30T22:11:55Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > I decorated my room in in Wonder Woman decor and some people thought I was gay or transgender because of that. Was the existence of transgendered children even acknowledged at that time? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/692 "2017-12-01T01:33:22Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > I am not the type to post what I ate for for breakfast on Facebook. I only write about exceptional things. I’d like to invite everyone in this thread to reflect upon the fact that this is coming from a man who was just regaling us with every mundane detail of a (likely fictitious) date, including the specific go-kart place they went to, exactly how much it cost, why he couldn’t post the receipt that he made a point of bringing up as evidence that this date occurred, and even the name and spiciness level of the dish he had to eat. I understand the temptation to try, but you are not going to inspire meaningful personal change in someone with zero self-awareness. Something we might do that would be more productive, or at least more fun, is develop **Shagnasty** Bingo or a **Shagnasty** drinking game. Take a drink every time he tells us that he enjoys going to strip clubs, the women in his life use him like an ATM, women over 40 are hosebeasts, he has a date lined up with a woman he has described in oddly specific yet impersonal terms, he reminds us that he doesn’t have the sense God gave a goose…actually, for your own safety you might want to play this game with milk. ---
**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/693 "2017-12-01T02:45:09Z")
> [@Lamia](#): > > Something we might do that would be more productive, or at least more fun, is develop **Shagnasty** Bingo or a **Shagnasty** drinking game. Take a drink every time he tells us that he enjoys going to strip clubs, the women in his life use him like an ATM, women over 40 are hosebeasts, he has a date lined up with a woman he has described in oddly specific yet impersonal terms, he reminds us that he doesn’t have the sense God gave a goose…actually, for your own safety you might want to play this game with milk. Can I play? If he says “I’m not that creative”, take a shot. ---
**Author:** ![expectopatronum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/expectopatronum/32/173_2.png) [@expectopatronum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/expectopatronum)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/694 "2017-12-01T02:52:14Z")
Drink when he says he doesn’t have the sense that god gave a goose ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/695 "2017-12-01T03:12:17Z")
And another shot when he says he is unique. ---
**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/696 "2017-12-01T03:26:39Z")
Take a shot when he says he’s a thrill-seeker. Double it when he reveals his idea of thrill-seeking is doing something as mundane as riding around in go-karts or dropping twenty dollars in change at the Chuck E. Cheese game room. ---
**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/697 "2017-12-01T03:28:10Z")
> [@TokyoBayer](#): > > And another shot when he says he is unique. And any mention of Louisiana. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/698 "2017-12-01T03:31:54Z")
2 shots for Jewish Heiress! ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/699 "2017-12-01T03:34:06Z")
We’re gonna be real drunk. My head already hurts. I got alka-seltzer. ---
**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/700 "2017-12-01T03:46:58Z")
If he offers to show a poster around Boston if they’re ever in town because they have won his grudging respect… you know the drill. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661.md?page=34) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661.md?page=36)