# Shagnasty is a misogynistic prick

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 15, 2017, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661 "2017-11-15T03:11:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/801 "2017-12-03T17:02:36Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> How the fuck would getting treatment for a mental disorder “almost kill him?”

Obviously they were shock treatments.

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**Author:** ![mr\_horsepower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@mr\_horsepower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mr_horsepower)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/802 "2017-12-03T17:25:56Z")

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you skipped right over my question about how & why do you find the time to share your life online with us mere mortals here when you’ve apparently got 2 or 3 (the third “if you can fit her in”) women you’re currently juggling and other offers coming in rapid fire?

also, as I’m a little late to the game & would like to be brought up to speed here, I’ve got a few more questions. (they’re tasteful questions. if you haven’t shared this info i can’t think of why you wouldn’t)-

what’s the average amount of dates you go on with these women?

what’s the age range of these women?

what would you rate these women on the average, looks-wise, on a 1-10 scale?

what do you consider yourself on the same scale?

what percentage of these women you do you sleep with?

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/803 "2017-12-03T17:29:18Z")

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> [@mr\_horsepower](#):
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> …
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> as I’m a little late to the game & would like to be brought up to speed here, I’ve got a few more questions. (they’re tasteful questions. if you haven’t shared this info i can’t think of why you wouldn’t)-

Okrahoma?

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/804 "2017-12-03T17:45:13Z")

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Anyone got a link where he admits to the drinking while on benzos?

> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> Shamefully, you guessed right. However, I didn’t have bipolar disorder in the first place. The medications doctors were prescribing were the very ones that were driving me out of my mind and then landed me in ICU with a prediction of death within hours but that didn’t happen because I am stubborn and wouldn’t let that happen. I have better things to do.
> 
> Still, it is embarrassing to have your whole home town notified that they need to pray and have your mother have to cancel her dream trip of a lifetime to fly up and take care of me. It took months to recover but things are much better now. That is a scenario that I never want to repeat. I learned a lot from it but I am also very skeptical about doctors now and double check their decisions. They can injure or kill you easily if they make the wrong ones. My primary care doctor went out of his way to save my life after the specialists gave up and he is the one I trust and listen to.

Bullshit. The doctors didn’t almost kill you, you did it to yourself because you’re a dumbass. THEY didn’t make the decision to drink while on medication, after being explicitly told not to – you did that. They didn’t force that booze down your throat, you did.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/805 "2017-12-03T17:46:14Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> Shamefully, you guessed right. However, I didn’t have bipolar disorder in the first place. The medications doctors were prescribing were the very ones that were driving me out of my mind and then landed me in ICU with a prediction of death within hours but that didn’t happen because I am stubborn and wouldn’t let that happen. I have better things to do.

OK, assuming these “doctors” were psychiatrists, they would have prescribed a dosage, then monitored how it affected you. If what **bobkitty** says is true, you were drinking heavily and overmedicating yourself. My roommate did that, and he’s been in rehab for the past year. This isn’t something you blame on the doctors.

I’m certainly not qualified to diagnose mental disorders, but you do act like my bipolar neighbor when he’s been drinking, with the way you obsess on the same details repeatedly. It’s like you’re trying to convince yourself what you say is true.

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**Author:** ![mr\_horsepower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@mr\_horsepower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mr_horsepower)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/806 "2017-12-03T17:50:58Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> Okrahoma?

that another members name. are you asking if we’re the same person?

nope

- I’m not familiar with them. what made you ask that?

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**Author:** ![DooWahDiddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e9bcb4/32.png) [@DooWahDiddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DooWahDiddy)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/807 "2017-12-03T17:53:15Z")

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> [@Nisslbody](#):
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> I keep thinking this as well. “The poors”! :rolleyes: I can’t stop reading this, I’m on day 2 and I keep coming back because this is hilarious. I’ve been reading excerpts to my fiance and his kids, they’re screaming at this stuff!

This is what I keep telling him; he’s not “popular”, he’s a fucking joke. The poor schmuck can’t tell when people are laughing _at_ him and not _with_ him. It would be sad, if it weren’t so fucking hilarious.

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**Author:** ![mr\_horsepower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@mr\_horsepower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mr_horsepower)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/808 "2017-12-03T18:08:30Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> Okrahoma?

ok. just browsed thru some of his post. I’m a democrat but voted for independant on our last election. i hate Donald Trump & everything he stands for & I’m certain he colluded with the Russians.

(i picked that information mainly because it shows a contrast with the first posts i read from okrahoma. i don’t know him &, from what i could tell, it doesn’t look like we share some core beliefs)

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**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/809 "2017-12-03T18:15:09Z")

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> [@Nisslbody](#):
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> I keep thinking this as well. “The poors”! :rolleyes: I can’t stop reading this, I’m on day 2 and I keep coming back because this is hilarious. I’ve been reading excerpts to my fiance and his kids, they’re screaming at this stuff!

At least the Shagnasty Shit Show is bringing out some cool almost-lurkers. 😃

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**Author:** ![Nisslbody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e36b37/32.png) [@Nisslbody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nisslbody)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/810 "2017-12-03T18:32:52Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> None. Even if proven, it could very well mean that the person has decided to back up this story loudly whilst trying to quietly ignore other bits that are blatant falsehoods, and conversely, refusal to provide a receipt _from an otherwise generally believable person_ also says nothing about the falsehood of their other claims.
> 
> But the “$75 is an expensive date!” is pretty fucking hilarious. I’m not even technically upper middle class but I barely blink at spending that much on myself on a good weekend’s entertainment, much less two people. For a globetrotting power consultant it should feel like deprivation.

This part gets me laughing every time it comes up. $75 for a date? I took my friend out to a midrange sushi joint the other night, it was $86 with tip for the two of us. I’m in grad school and I have kids, so I don’t do that sort of minor splurge very often, but when I had a job it wasn’t uncommon for me to go out twice a week and $35-40 is a pretty typical bill for one person for dinner, drinks, and tip at a neighborhood hangout kind of place. $200 is a typical “date night” budget for my fiance and I.

I am totally ready to believe that this guy is a character created by a brilliant online performance artist; the things he “brags” about are so very 😕. It’s kind of like a kid’s idea of what would impress grown-ups, so much so that I’d think he was a kid if he hadn’t been here for 18 freaking years.

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**Author:** ![Nisslbody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e36b37/32.png) [@Nisslbody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nisslbody)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/811 "2017-12-03T18:47:47Z")

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> [@TokyoBayer](#):
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> No. You wrote previously that you had engaged in light petting which you defined as touching over a bra. That’s sexual assault.
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> Now, you are saying that it was only kissing, and because your previous statement has been linked to, this direct contradiction is an implicit admission that your prior statement was a fabrication.
> 
> So, you have admitted you lied previously. There is no difference in perspective. Either you lied then, which you have now admitted, or you backtrack that admission and confirm that you are lying now.

Kissing without consent is also sexual assault, just so we’re totally clear. He has admitted to conspiring to and then carrying out a premeditated sexual assault. The fact that he was underage is irrelevant; in most state sexual assault committed by minors is eligible to be tried in adult courts.

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**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/812 "2017-12-03T18:55:16Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> Still, it is embarrassing to have your whole home town notified that they need to pray and have your mother have to cancel her dream trip of a lifetime to fly up and take care of me.

I know I’m going to regret asking this, but this is your mother the fabulously popular, successful and best-selling motivational speaker\* and author, the globe-trotting sinew-stiffener and Wikipedia aficionado who so is wildly sought after in every country on the planet? And she had to cancel “the trip of a lifetime”? You really are quite terrible at this whole lying thing, **Shagnasty** , it’s why people keep tuning in.

\*[I can’t not hear Cut Chemist’s "Motivational Speaker " whenever I type those words.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFZXb1uI918)

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**Author:** ![Nisslbody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e36b37/32.png) [@Nisslbody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nisslbody)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/813 "2017-12-03T18:59:20Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> The funny this was that my coworkers tried to call bullshit…

I bet that’s a regular occurrence.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/814 "2017-12-03T19:00:42Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> Shamefully, you guessed right. However, I didn’t have bipolar disorder in the first place. The medications doctors were prescribing were the very ones that were driving me out of my mind and then landed me in ICU with a prediction of death within hours but that didn’t happen because I am stubborn and wouldn’t let that happen. I have better things to do.
> 
> Still, it is embarrassing to have your whole home town notified that they need to pray and have your mother have to cancel her dream trip of a lifetime to fly up and take care of me. It took months to recover but things are much better now. That is a scenario that I never want to repeat. I learned a lot from it but I am also very skeptical about doctors now and double check their decisions. They can injure or kill you easily if they make the wrong ones. My primary care doctor went out of his way to save my life after the specialists gave up and he is the one I trust and listen to.
> 
> I am fully aware that I make bad decisions sometimes but it isn’t nearly as bad as many people are painting it in this thread. I am just a fallible person, a good father and a responsible and competent employee. Most of it works out quite well until it doesn’t. I just crash and burn a little harder than some people because I like risk and hate boredom. My failures are a lot milder than some family members and other people I know and I really try to do the right thing but I can’t change my fundamental personality except to mask over it.
> 
> I made another dumb decision last night or maybe not. Like I mentioned, I am addicted to dating websites but I am seeing someone at least casually. An Australian beauty (that is on my list of must haves) that lives just a few miles away popped up and I messaged her never expecting anything to come of it. Well, it did. We are going out too but I still have my Jewish heiress to go out with tonight and I really like her as well. I don’t want to end up with two girlfriends at the same time but I am setting myself up for it. I know this can’t end well but I just can’t resist.

Is this one also a racist?

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/815 "2017-12-03T19:02:06Z")

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> [@mr\_horsepower](#):
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> that another members name. are you asking if we’re the same person?
> 
> nope
> 
> - I’m not familiar with them. what made you ask that?

I was just guessing at who you were the last time you were here. I need more clues and a vowel perhaps. The grammar, it’s so familiar.

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**Author:** ![Nisslbody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e36b37/32.png) [@Nisslbody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nisslbody)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/816 "2017-12-03T19:11:30Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Checks all the boxes.
> 
> How does being bipolar fit in? Or is that some sort of fabrication from the past?

Bipolar disorder can certainly coexist with personality disorders, and wild exaggeration/overestimation of exploits is common during manic phases, but you would also expect to see the inverse – often to a dangerous degree – during depressive episodes. During the downcycle after a manic episode, reality sets in (for the otherwise mentally healthy person with bipolar) and they will then not only recognize and be embarrassed by their behavior while manic, they also often experience profound remorse, regret, and self-castigation. It’s a terrible disease, two of my closest friends have it and it’s made it so much harder to be successful in their careers and romantic lives, despite being brilliant, kind, and creative.

I’m not saying he doesn’t have bipolar disorder, nor that he does have NPD. I’m just saying that his posting pattern here isn’t consistent with bipolar disorder, because there is no indication of cycling into depression. At the same time, it is consistent with NPD with a pathological lying component. /armchair

Disclaimer: I’m not a psychologist, I’m just a neurobiologist with a BS in psych, my speculations have all the value of the paper they’re printed on.

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**Author:** ![Nisslbody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e36b37/32.png) [@Nisslbody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nisslbody)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/817 "2017-12-03T19:18:11Z")

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> [@Helena330](#):
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> At least the Shagnasty Shit Show is bringing out some cool almost-lurkers. 😃

😃

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**Author:** ![mr\_horsepower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@mr\_horsepower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mr_horsepower)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/818 "2017-12-03T19:37:47Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> I was just guessing at who you were the last time you were here. I need more clues and a vowel perhaps. The grammar, it’s so familiar.

well don’t drive yourself too crazy with that. this is my 1st time having an account here & that’s only been for the past few weeks.

I’m a member of a few trade related websites, HVAC, electrical & a few posts at an engineering website when i was building a driveway gate, using my screen name here, but most of my posts at those websites are in the professional members areas that are off limits to the public.

i don’t use any social media, never even been on Facebook, MySpace or any other place you have to share so much personal info at.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/819 "2017-12-03T19:42:38Z")

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> [@bobkitty](#):
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> Pretty close to this. According to his own story, the docs gave him benzos for the bipolar disorder, and he kept drinking AMA. Mixing the two is pretty popular with folks who have bipolar disorder, partly due to the self-medicating tendencies but also because alcohol enhances the effect of benzos; however, it’s _very_ contraindicated. Into the hospital he went. There was a prayer vigil in his town and everything.

Yeah? For or against?

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/820 "2017-12-03T20:26:21Z")

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> [@mr\_horsepower](#):
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> well don’t drive yourself too crazy with that. this is my 1st time having an account here & that’s only been for the past few weeks.
> 
> …

I’ll be fine, thank you for your concern.

It just seems a little strange that someone who has been here but a few weeks wants to participate in the pitting of a long time poster. That sort of looks like a grudge or an agenda. Too much familiarity for someone so new. Strange, wouldn’t you think? But, nonetheless, welcome to the dope.

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