# Shagnasty is a misogynistic prick

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 15, 2017, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661 "2017-11-15T03:11:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2017, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1081 "2017-12-14T13:23:05Z")

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Lest anyone remains in doubt about whether or not Shaggy is a pathological liar:

[From Gawker article in 2005 -](http://gawker.com/034511/stamos-a-thin-line-between-love-and-rape)

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> The actor [John Stamos] was asked by Jane magazine, “What’s the worst you ever screwed someone over?” He answered: "[In the mid- '80s] I was in a band. I was playing somewhere in Finland, and there was a girl hanging around who was really drunk and interested in me. I wasn’t into her, but my friend was.
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> So the girl came back to my hotel, and I turned the lights down, and we started making out. I said, ‘Hold on a second, I’ve gotta go brush my teeth.’ It was dark, I left the room, and I sent in my friend who looked like me. And she thought she was having sex with me, but she was really having sex with my friend."

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**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2017, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1082 "2017-12-14T13:47:47Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Lest anyone remains in doubt about whether or not Shaggy is a pathological liar:
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> [From Gawker article in 2005 -](http://gawker.com/034511/stamos-a-thin-line-between-love-and-rape)

I’m certainly no John Stamos but I am glad that someone else verified that it can be done. I had never heard that story from him.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2017, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1083 "2017-12-14T13:53:52Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> I’m certainly no John Stamos but I am glad that someone else verified that it can be done. I had never heard that story from him.

Yes, thank goodness that’s all cleared up now. :rolleyes:

JFC. Don’t you ever get tired of shitting yourself?

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2017, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1084 "2017-12-14T14:00:38Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> I’m certainly no John Stamos but I am glad that someone else verified that it can be done. I had never heard that story from him.

You know that being a liar is not as bad as being a sexual assaulter, right? And yet for some reason you’d rather people think of you as the latter than the former.

You’re either a liar and a troll or a disgusting person, based on your posts.

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**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2017, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1085 "2017-12-14T14:07:55Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> You know that being a liar is not as bad as being a sexual assaulter, right? And yet for some reason you’d rather people think of you as the latter than the former.
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> You’re either a liar and a troll or a disgusting person, based on your posts.

It is the latter although probably not nearly as bad as many people assume. I made a mistake when I was a teenager and no damage was done. Hasn’t everyone? We have a whole lot more Jesus figures on this board than I have ever met in real life. We should have a Dopefest. I will bring some bread and a couple of fish. It should be plenty for everyone.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2017, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1086 "2017-12-14T14:14:37Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> We should have a Dopefest. I will bring some bread and a couple of fish. I will bring some bread and a couple of fish. It should be plenty for everyone.

Baller.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2017, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1087 "2017-12-14T14:24:38Z")

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When decent folks identify mistakes they’ve made, especially mistakes that may have violated someone’s consent, they don’t make excuses for it; they feel pretty awful about it; they look deep inside themselves; and they emerge better people, determined not to minimize such mistakes (for themselves or others) nor make them in the future.

Or something like that, anyway.

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**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2017, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1088 "2017-12-14T14:26:04Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> When decent folks identify mistakes they’ve made, especially mistakes that may have violated someone’s consent, they don’t make excuses for it; they feel pretty awful about it; they look deep inside themselves; and they emerge better people, determined not to minimize such mistakes (for themselves or others) nor make them in the future.
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> Or something like that, anyway.

I have never done it again and all of us involved are still friends. That is all I can say.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2017, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1089 "2017-12-14T15:20:21Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> When decent folks identify mistakes they’ve made, especially mistakes that may have violated someone’s consent, they don’t make excuses for it; they feel pretty awful about it; they look deep inside themselves; and they emerge better people, determined not to minimize such mistakes (for themselves or others) nor make them in the future.
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> Or something like that, anyway.

You may have missed the memo, or ALL THE FUCKING signs this mentally defective jackanape is leaving as he dances through here trolling people, BUT, he’s trolling you and you’re dancing to his music like a organ grinder’s monkey dancing for spare change. He’s laughing at you as you waste the time responding to him.

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**Author:** ![expectopatronum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/expectopatronum/32/173_2.png) [@expectopatronum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/expectopatronum)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2017, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1090 "2017-12-14T15:47:15Z")

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Goddamnit you guys :mad:

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2017, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1091 "2017-12-14T15:52:48Z")

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> [@expectopatronum](#):
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> Goddamnit you guys :mad:

Sorry, but that John Stamos story was just too on-the-nose to ignore.

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**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2017, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1092 "2017-12-15T04:27:59Z")

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There is some great news. I was more than a little ticked off by someone with borderline personality disorder and a semi half-dumped me on the same day but I finally got a response from the beautiful, “financially independent”, as she puts it, Russian Poker player. All we have to do is arrange when she calls tomorrow night. That instantly erases all damage.

I have no idea why people are calling me a misogynist. I spent my whole night going to an orientation session to send my daughter to a field trip to Quebec for her French immersion program and then sending nice messages to lots of women on Match and Bumble. I still have no idea why I made the Russian poker player sit on the bench because she is a clear 1st stringer but that may have been a good strategy. The problem is that I emptied the bench and have to fill it again.

I think the correct term for me is _ogynist_ rather than misogynist because I love them so much.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2017, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1093 "2017-12-15T04:56:37Z")

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You don’t love anybody, except yourself.

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**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2017, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1094 "2017-12-15T05:37:00Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> You don’t love anybody, except yourself.

No, I love my daughters more than anything and the rest of my immediate family too except for my middle brother. Some other people are sort of OK too. Lots of other people are great fun.

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2017, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1095 "2017-12-15T12:40:01Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> I think the correct term for me is _ogynist_ rather than misogynist because I love them so much.

You misspelled _“onanist”_

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2017, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1096 "2017-12-15T14:17:15Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> There is some great news. I was more than a little ticked off by someone with borderline personality disorder and a semi half-dumped me on the same day but I finally got a response from the beautiful, “financially independent”, as she puts it, Russian Poker player. All we have to do is arrange when she calls tomorrow night. That instantly erases all damage.
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> I have no idea why people are calling me a misogynist. I spent my whole night going to an orientation session to send my daughter to a field trip to Quebec for her French immersion program and then sending nice messages to lots of women on Match and Bumble. I still have no idea why I made the Russian poker player sit on the bench because she is a clear 1st stringer but that may have been a good strategy. The problem is that I emptied the bench and have to fill it again.
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> I think the correct term for me is _ogynist_ rather than misogynist because I love them so much.

Because you clearly think of most women as objects for your amusement and pleasure, and you refer to women that you don’t find amusing or pleasurable with hateful and disgusting language.

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2017, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1097 "2017-12-15T15:37:55Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Because you clearly think of most women as objects for your amusement and pleasure, and you refer to women that you don’t find amusing or pleasurable with hateful and disgusting language.

Do you think somehow you’ll get an honest reply?

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2017, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1098 "2017-12-15T16:14:53Z")

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> [@TokyoBayer](#):
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> Do you think somehow you’ll get an honest reply?

Probably not. But don’t worry – it’s not a huge deal either way. Just a back-and-forth with a troll and/or horrible anonymous person. At worst it’s silly and a waste of 20 seconds.

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**Author:** ![Katriona](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/katriona/32/113_2.png) [@Katriona](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Katriona)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2017, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1099 "2017-12-15T17:29:46Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Lest anyone remains in doubt about whether or not Shaggy is a pathological liar:
> 
> [From Gawker article in 2005 -](http://gawker.com/034511/stamos-a-thin-line-between-love-and-rape)

Oh, there’s more possibilities to choose from…I can’t find a cite, but somewhere I’ve seen an interview with Dustin Hoffman where he pretended to be his brother to lose his virginity.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2017, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1100 "2017-12-15T17:39:31Z")

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Any one have a recipe they’d like to share for **Jellied Bouillon with Frankfurters and Tripe**?

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