# Shagnasty is a misogynistic prick

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 15, 2017, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661 "2017-11-15T03:11:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2017, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1161 "2017-12-31T23:31:45Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> I thought of that too but it was a poor return on investment if that was the case. I paid $140 in a private room with a Russian 10 in a full contact Rhode Island strip club a few months ago for just 15 minutes. This one is still an 8 and she spent 6 hours with me for $200. I am not worried about the money as a one time deal. I just can’t she’ll out hundreds of dollars a day to support someone over 40.

If you say so, dude. So I’m guessing the Australian Beauty or whatever will be paying?

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**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1162 "2018-01-01T00:14:25Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> It turns out that women are semi-predictable almost as much as house cats and you can learn the skills to get them to come to you.

Somebody once said something like this: If a guy says he knows everything about women, be sure that he knows nothing. Because obviously he doesn’t even know that women aren’t senseless, programmed robots, they are all individuals and react differently to different things. You know, just like men.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1163 "2018-01-01T00:58:49Z")

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> [@SaneBill](#):
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> Somebody once said something like this: If a guy says he knows everything about women, be sure that he knows nothing. Because obviously he doesn’t even know that women aren’t senseless, programmed robots, they are all individuals and react differently to different things. You know, just like men.

The OP reminds me of a guy I was friends with since college, who always lauded my open-mindedness (I guess because I didn’t give a fuck who or how many women he screwed… I’m not a prude) but his misogyny was so over-the-top ridiculous. Like I remember as his housemate, I once cleaned the kitchen, and he remarked, ''Wow, **Spice** , I guess you won’t make such a terrible mother after all."

He was a very charismatic, intelligent guy, full of fascinating (usually provocative) ideas and very open about his life and experiences, so it was hard not to like him despite this significant personal shortcoming.

I put up with it for years, and it ate at my sense of self-worth, not that he ever said too many things directly attacking me as a woman, but the simple fact that he kept making these bizarre generalizations about women and really seemed obsessed with typifying and molding women to suit his needs. And eventually, I had to end the relationship, because, as I put it, “I can’t be friends with someone who doesn’t view me as fully human.”

His response was, "Well, that’s just childish.‘’

It’s clear he thought there was a meaningful difference between how he saw ME and how he saw his romantic interests, but he was completely oblivious to how hurtful and dehumanizing his comments were not just to the women he threw away, but to all women everywhere, including those he allegedly cared about. And then he called me the childish one for pointing out that his actions were too hurtful to tolerate. It’s a shame. He lost a really good friend.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1164 "2018-01-01T01:04:50Z")

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> [@SaneBill](#):
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> Somebody once said something like this: If a guy says he knows everything about women, be sure that he knows nothing. Because obviously he doesn’t even know that women aren’t senseless, programmed robots, they are all individuals and react differently to different things. You know, just like men.

Hey, lay off the robots, okay?

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**Author:** ![keturah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e95f7d/32.png) [@keturah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/keturah)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1165 "2018-01-01T07:24:51Z")

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A bottle of wine and a filet at an “exclusive” restaurant was only $200??

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1166 "2018-01-01T08:12:29Z")

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The cheapest filet is $40, the cheapest bottle of wine is $15.

That leaves $145 for the “girlfriend” which isn’t too bad for a meal. (not taking into account the “substandard tip” and alleged casino discount)

The menu: [http://www.davidburkeprime.com/menu\_view.php?menu\_id=257](http://www.davidburkeprime.com/menu_view.php?menu_id=257)

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**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1167 "2018-01-01T08:19:22Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Dude, nothing about your “secret” of on line dating is remotely impressive. (Assuming any of it is true.) I’ve been in your shoes, after having divorced in my very early 40’s. I found it just as easy and enjoyed it until it stopped being enjoyable, which was about the time I met the woman to whom I am now married. That’s why I don’t get what there is to brag about. You’re not making a valuable contribution to humanity, you’re just going on some dates (ostensibly). If you’re even half as attractive as you’d have everyone believe, finding attractive women to date isn’t at all impressive. Quit fucking bragging like you’re doing something special. Who are you trying to impress?
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> Bullshit. You gave a number because you were trying to impress somebody. Else, why not just keep your mouth shut about how much dinner cost, dumbass. Nobody was going to ask you how much you paid for a some burger and fries at the Silver Diner. Paris and Milan… what a fucking lying douchebag you are.
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> “My last date…”, what a fucking idiot. Your last date, if even remotely real, was a mental patient, like you. She blew you off. Think about it. A human train wreck didn’t want to have anything to do with YOU. What does that say about you?
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> Look, I told you over and over that none of this is going to end well for you and the more you say the worse it sounds. You’re a punchline now. Save what little shred of self-respect you might have remaining in that attention whoring bottomless hole inside you and shut the fuck up. Nobody is impressed. Everyone is laughing at you.
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> You won’t take my advice, I know. But I do feel just sorry enough for you to give it.

I am not going to take your advice because you don’t know what your are talking about. I married into a very wealthy family with massive real estate holding from Boston and New Hampshire to the Virgin Islands. Most people think that is lucky. It is not. My ex-wife wants to make as much money as possible and never showed up before 9pm and usually much later than that. Here we are on New Years and me and my two girls don’t even know what state she is in. She just disappears frequently. The only way her daughters can tell what she is doing is by Instagram posts that involve elaborate costumes.

Luckily, my great-fathers made wise choices too with mineral rights claims back in the 1930’s and 1940’s and now I am I multi-millionaire too along with the rest of our small family. I don’t have to do another thing for the rest of my life unless I want to. It is all under the strict guidance of staff lawyers and CPA’s. If I need something like a new car, all I have to do is make phone call. I will get full control over my share in 5 1/2 years and then I can retire.

All I want to do in the mean time is to spend quality time with with daughters, have fun with women and be done with it. I am not going to be anyone’s spouse or a stepparent. It is all recreational.

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**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1168 "2018-01-01T09:43:01Z")

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> [@keturah](#):
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> A bottle of wine and a filet at an “exclusive” restaurant was only $200??

Are you complaining about the fiction? Why bother?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1169 "2018-01-01T13:32:19Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> I am I multi-millionaire too along with the rest of our small family.

But you ask small help with cash from Nigerian bank account, dearest friend.

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> I don’t have to do another thing for the rest of my life unless I want to. It is all under the strict guidance of staff lawyers and CPA’s. If I need something like a new car, all I have to do is make phone call. I will get full control over my share in 5 1/2 years and then I can retire.

But you can’t afford a better class of hooker, and you’re in a regimented cubicle job simply for enjoyment.

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> It is all recreational.

It certainly looks that way.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1170 "2018-01-01T13:53:49Z")

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Has any other Doper ever taken such glee in revealing himself to be a pathetic person?

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**Author:** ![DkTrdGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5fc32e/32.png) [@DkTrdGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DkTrdGuy)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1171 "2018-01-01T15:34:36Z")

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Why is everyone hating on this guy?

I’m so jealous of him.

He actually scored a right-wing woman who’s NON-religious. Those women are few and far between. It seems that women are either SJWs or Jesus freaks. Why can’t more women be both sexually liberal and fiscally conservative at the same time?

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**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1172 "2018-01-01T15:36:59Z")

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just use your imagination like he does.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1173 "2018-01-01T15:42:23Z")

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Poor sod actually thinks he’s a player, not a playee.

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**Author:** ![DkTrdGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5fc32e/32.png) [@DkTrdGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DkTrdGuy)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1174 "2018-01-01T15:48:59Z")

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> [@Ramira](#):
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> just use your imagination like he does.

I do. I pose as a liberal man to get lusty liberal women interested in me. Think what you like, behave like others. Robert Greene’s Law of Power 38.

Right now, I’m wearing thick-rimmed glasses and I have my ears guaged. Also wearing a v-neck that says “portland”, and skinny jeans of course. This works better than when I wore polo shirts and khakis.

I say all kinds of liberal-sounding stuff that I don’t really care about. I have to appear “woke”, you know.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1175 "2018-01-01T15:51:04Z")

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> [@DkTrdGuy](#):
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> Why is everyone hating on this guy?
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> I’m so jealous of him.
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> He actually scored a right-wing woman who’s NON-religious. Those women are few and far between. It seems that women are either SJWs or Jesus freaks. Why can’t more women be both sexually liberal and fiscally conservative at the same time?

You know they are all inflatable, right dipshit?

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**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1176 "2018-01-01T16:03:10Z")

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> [@DkTrdGuy](#):
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> He actually scored a right-wing woman who’s NON-religious. Those women are few and far between. It seems that women are either SJWs or Jesus freaks. Why can’t more women be both sexually liberal and fiscally conservative at the same time?

I laugh at the idea these women as fiscally conservative by any definition. It sounds like they and the OP equate a successful date with one that costs hundreds of dollars. A simple coffee and dessert at Starbucks would never do.

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**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1177 "2018-01-01T16:07:55Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Poor sod actually thinks he’s a player, not a playee.

Why not imagine big if there is going to be the fantasy…

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1178 "2018-01-01T16:30:38Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> Luckily, my great-fathers made wise choices too with mineral rights claims back in the 1930’s and 1940’s

Wait, I thought it was your grandparents, not your great-grandparents? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1179 "2018-01-01T16:46:42Z")

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For this version of the fantasy there is the desire to deepen the wisdom.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1180 "2018-01-01T17:40:08Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Wait, I thought it was your grandparents, not your great-grandparents? :dubious:

No, he said _great fathers_. Plural. Like his conception involved a room full of…never mind.

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