# Shagnasty is a misogynistic prick **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 15, 2017, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661 "2017-11-15T03:11:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![bobkitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c67d28/32.png) [@bobkitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobkitty)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2017, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/121 "2017-11-16T17:14:24Z")
> [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](#): > > My favorite part of that thread is when he chastises a new poster for their bad writing. If that ain’t the pot calling the kettle. My favorite part is where he admits to wanting to kill his neighbor for shooting his beloved dog- who was wandering on the neighbor’s property doing god knows what. Maybe Katie would still be around if he was a better dog owner. ---
**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2017, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/122 "2017-11-16T17:19:51Z")
> [@bobkitty](#): > > My favorite part is where he admits to wanting to kill his neighbor for shooting his beloved dog- who was wandering on the neighbor’s property doing god knows what. Maybe Katie would still be around if he was a better dog owner. It’s probably not even true. I don’t think any of his bullshit is true. That’s why I want msmith to post about the “real” Shagnasty, since apparently they used to work together. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2017, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/123 "2017-11-16T17:26:26Z")
Good to know that you’re following this thread, Shagnasty. Which would upset you more: [(a)](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20253403&postcount=56) “bullies forcing your teenagers daughter’s head on the ground while they pour Gatorade all over her in her new school clothes,” or (b) an impersonator fraudulently pretending to be your daughter’s boyfriend making out with her without her knowing of the fraud? ---
**Author:** ![expectopatronum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/expectopatronum/32/173_2.png) [@expectopatronum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/expectopatronum)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2017, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/124 "2017-11-16T17:48:14Z")
> [@bobkitty](#): > > My favorite part is where he admits to wanting to kill his neighbor for shooting his beloved dog- who was wandering on the neighbor’s property doing god knows what. Maybe Katie would still be around if he was a better dog owner. I’ll be fair here, if my neighbor shot my dog I’d want to kill them too. I mean, hyperbole, but still. I don’t know the whole story there and I don’t really want to but I don’t think that’s an abnormal reaction. Although he definitely shouldn’t be letting his dog wander on other people’s property. ---
**Author:** ![Maurie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df788c/32.png) [@Maurie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maurie)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2017, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/125 "2017-11-16T17:53:04Z")
> [@expectopatronum](#): > > I’ll be fair here, if my neighbor shot my dog I’d want to kill them too. I mean, hyperbole, but still. I don’t know the whole story there and I don’t really want to but I don’t think that’s an abnormal reaction. Although he definitely shouldn’t be letting his dog wander on other people’s property. It’s definitely normal to be really pissed off and upset, but I don’t think the only thing that would stop you from actually killing your neighbour is that you would not want to go to jail. Also listed as a reason to want someone dead: vandalism. ---
**Author:** ![expectopatronum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/expectopatronum/32/173_2.png) [@expectopatronum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/expectopatronum)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2017, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/126 "2017-11-16T18:37:15Z")
> [@Maurie](#): > > It’s definitely normal to be really pissed off and upset, but I don’t think the only thing that would stop you from actually killing your neighbour is that you would not want to go to jail. > > Also listed as a reason to want someone dead: vandalism. Yeah, this is why I qualified him as being kinda scary. It seems the only thing that keeps him from really hurting someone is fear of legal consequences. If there was a real life zombie apocalypse he’d be the Governor from Walking Dead. (For non WD fans, he was a villain that committed mass murder several times, including on his own people, and also kept their severed heads as trophies. He also had a zombified daughter than he kept locked up in a room and when a female character killed the zombie daughter, he prepared a torture room where he intended to rape and torture said character. Yeah.) I often wondered about that show how the main group kept coming across these sociopathic characters who killed, raped, and tortured other people. I know people like that exist in the current world where society hasn’t collapsed, but there are so many of them in that universe, and I questioned all the time that so many people were that evil. With some of the things being revealed and discussed about Shags here, I do wonder that in an extreme situation like that, where society has collapsed and there’s no fear of legal issues, he might lose all restraint and do some terrible things. It’s an interesting (and disturbing) thought. I hope the zombies don’t come anytime soon. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2017, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/127 "2017-11-16T18:45:17Z")
> [@expectopatronum](#): > > With some of the things being revealed and discussed about Shags here, I do wonder that in an extreme situation like that, where society has collapsed and there’s no fear of legal issues, he might lose all restraint and do some terrible things. It’s an interesting (and disturbing) thought. I hope the zombies don’t come anytime soon. You’re not first to think such thoughts. “Whatsoever therefore is consequent to a time of Warre, where every man is Enemy to every man; the same is consequent to the time, wherein men live without other security, than what their own strength, and their own invention shall furnish them withall. In such condition, there is no place for Industry; because the fruit thereof is uncertain; and consequently no Culture of the Earth; no Navigation, nor use of the commodities that may be imported by Sea; no commodious Building; no Instruments of moving, and removing such things as require much force; no Knowledge of the face of the Earth; no account of Time; no Arts; no Letters; no Society; and which is worst of all, continuall feare, and danger of violent death; **And the life of man, solitary, poore, nasty, brutish, and short.** ” Thomas Hobbes, Leviathan ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2017, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/128 "2017-11-16T19:27:38Z")
That post about pushing his little brother down because he didn’t like him freaks me out. Babies learn to walk when they’re 12-18 months old. What do babies do at that age to cause someone not to like them, other than just existing? Ugh. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2017, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/129 "2017-11-16T19:29:10Z")
^I have thought the very thing, ‘expecto’., many things happen every day that people are wronged. But civil society and people who are not psychotic deal with it and don’t go off and go biblical on them. I think Shags is quite scary, But, I doubt he has the real balls to do anything he says. He is all bark, no bite. I 'd bet real money on it. But if societal norms were broken down, it’s no telling what people like that would do. Hope I am not around for that day. Oh, thanks for this pit. Very enlightening. ---
**Author:** ![expectopatronum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/expectopatronum/32/173_2.png) [@expectopatronum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/expectopatronum)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2017, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/130 "2017-11-16T19:52:19Z")
> [@Sarahfeena](#): > > That post about pushing his little brother down because he didn’t like him freaks me out. Babies learn to walk when they’re 12-18 months old. What do babies do at that age to cause someone not to like them, other than just existing? Ugh. Yeah, that bothered me too. It seemed a bit more than your typical sibling rivalry/jealous of the new addition stuff that happens with younger siblings. He said he “didn’t like him then and doesn’t like him now”. Now, okay, families become estranged sometimes so that’s not so weird. But then? He was a baby. Yeah, that’s creepy. I really wonder if he’s a sociopath. ---
**Author:** ![Crazy\_Canuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazy_canuck/32/5282_2.png) [@Crazy\_Canuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazy_Canuck)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2017, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/131 "2017-11-16T20:02:41Z")
> [@expectopatronum](#): > > If there was a real life zombie apocalypse he’d be the Governor from Walking Dead. No he wouldn’t be, not even close. I’ve met a real-life “governor,” who was a mid-level enforcer for a drug cartel. He would have Shag, me, or anyone else on this board compliantly following his every order in less than fifteen minutes without even raising his voice. He scared me so much that I won’t even hint at the shit I saw him pull, despite the fact that this is an anonymous message board almost a decade later. Even regular heroin use couldn’t erase those memories, I tried. And this is if you assume that everything Shag says is true, which I certainly don’t. There’s a fair bit of subtle stuff in what he’s posted that makes me strongly suspect that he is mostly an internet persona designed to be edgy and get attention. He wouldn’t be the only one to build up the lies to make up for all that he lacks. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2017, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/132 "2017-11-16T20:31:21Z")
I went through this thread a few times and I didn’t see the what I think what may be the vilest thread of all mentioned. Although the bragging about rape is probably worse [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=831412&highlight=Hose+Beast](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=831412&highlight=Hose+Beast) In this literary masterwork, he reflects on all the hot chicks he bangs as he wonders why his fellow men over 40 stay with their “hose-beast” over 40 wives, instead of dumping them so they can bang hot chicks all the livelong day. Because Shagnasty got a date with a girl that was so hot he popped a boner looking at her profile. And he can’t understand why any would stay with a woman once she has aged out of hottitude. Because if Shagassy doesn’t pop a boner when he looks at your pic, you’re a worthless hose-beast and if he spends time with you it’s an act of charity on his part. Although he’d maybe date Lynda Carter. And he almost dated a hot woman in her 50s. Almost. But while he loves and values women, he devalues WIVES. If they’re not hot. They should go lock themselves in a convent and set their beleaguered husbands free. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20357144&postcount=77](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20357144&postcount=77) I could go on, there’s more gems of wisdom in the thread. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2017, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/133 "2017-11-16T20:39:01Z")
The drip, drip, drip of Shag’s misogynistic prick. ---
**Author:** ![expectopatronum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/expectopatronum/32/173_2.png) [@expectopatronum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/expectopatronum)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2017, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/134 "2017-11-16T20:56:55Z")
Ann, I considered going through that thread as well and picking out some of the lowlights, but there was so much generated by this most recent one that I found it kind of an overwhelming prospect, so I just stuck with that one. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2017, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/135 "2017-11-16T21:00:04Z")
> [@expectopatronum](#): > > Ann, I considered going through that thread as well and picking out some of the lowlights, but there was so much generated by this most recent one that I found it kind of an overwhelming prospect, so I just stuck with that one. Well, there’s certainly no shortage of material. And it was trivially easy to find it, I just ran a search on hose beast ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2017, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/136 "2017-11-16T21:13:47Z")
God, if nothing else he makes me really really appreciate my husband. ---
**Author:** ![expectopatronum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/expectopatronum/32/173_2.png) [@expectopatronum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/expectopatronum)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2017, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/137 "2017-11-16T21:18:47Z")
Ditto that Sarahfeena. I’m not married, but he makes me appreciate my SO very much. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2017, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/138 "2017-11-16T21:25:32Z")
I’d love to hear/see his ex-wife’s side of the story, assuming she even exists. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![expectopatronum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/expectopatronum/32/173_2.png) [@expectopatronum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/expectopatronum)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2017, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/139 "2017-11-16T22:28:08Z")
When the thread Ann Hedonia referenced happened a couple months back, I shared my thoughts on another board. I’ve pasted what I think is the most relevant part of my response below. [Mods, I don’t believe I’m running afoul of board rules here, as this is a portion of a post I made myself originally elsewhere, but if I’ve broken a rule please let me know.] > [@expectopatronum](#): > > [Shagnasty] doesn’t want someone to laugh with, cook with, make private jokes with, spend time in companionable silence with, because his concept of attraction doesn’t go any deeper than the shallow end of a wading pool. It is about the looks and no more. It’s about the status symbol of having a hot lady on your arm or sitting across from you. It’s such an alien concept to me because attraction is so much more than that. Looks factor in, but so does the way they talk, they way they move, how it feels to touch their hand or lean on their shoulder or run your hands through their hair, the sound of their voice. It’s the sum of many individual parts, some of which you can’t put your finger on but you know it’s there. And that can exist between any two people who are so inclined, no matter how imperfect their bodies or faces are, no matter what age they are, and whether they look their age or not. Really connecting with a person and loving them will make them the hottest person on the face of the planet, whether they look like Brad Pitt or Danny Devito. Reading that over again, it makes me wonder if Shags has ever truly been in love, even with his ex-wife. I don’t think he’s capable of it. It simply does not occur to him that these women he describes as hosebeasts might keep their husbands because their husbands love them and are attracted to them. Sure, some couples fall out of love and stay together in roommate-like marriages, but two people who are still in love will get each other hot no matter what the fuck they look like. Because love is something more than what a person looks like. it’s about your partners heart, their soul, their passions. It’s about lying in their arms and knowing at that moment you are safer than you have ever been. It’s so much more than the superficial crap that Shags likes to reduce it to. Shags cannot comprehend this and probably never will. I almost want to feel sorry for him, but I don’t. He doesn’t deserve to understand any of this, much less experience it. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2017, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/140 "2017-11-16T22:31:51Z")
I tried to explain this, what it’s like to be with the same man for 15 years, to be safe and secure, intimate, emotionally and physically bonded, loyalty bound. I wish that for everyone. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661.md?page=8)