# Shagnasty is a misogynistic prick **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 15, 2017, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661 "2017-11-15T03:11:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 72
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1421 "2018-02-06T04:48:41Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > Not at all speaking as a moderator… > > Why are you guys enabling him? Given the topic ban he now posts under, if you ignore him all of this will fade away. Are you so hard up for outrage you have to encourage him? Because he clearly loves the attention. All you’re doing is giving pleasure to someone you claim to despise. The whole reason for the topic ban is because people have no self control and need you guys to protect them from the one thread or so a decade that Shagnasty was creating on the subject he’s banned from creating threads on. You can’t really be surprised. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1422 "2018-02-06T05:03:09Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > The whole reason for the topic ban is because people have no self control and need you guys to protect them from the one thread or so a decade that Shagnasty was creating on the subject he’s banned from creating threads on. > > You can’t really be surprised. Yeah. I mean, I wouldn’t say it quite that way, but he’s got a point. If people could just ignore **Shaggy** , then they would have done so and you wouldn’t have needed to do anything. Hell, trolling wouldn’t even be a problem here. Of course, if he is still allowed to troll people, they will continue to feed him. This is why “Do not feed the troll” sounds great in theory but never actually works. And, as other posters said, he’s already close to cracking, and a lot of people want him gone. Antagonizing him to get him to break the rules is a time-tested technique to get rid of posters here. Isn’t that why you usually do a full topic ban (not just a thread start ban) and also forbid people from antagonizing them about it? (Hence why I wouldn’t say quite what **octopus** said. There’s strategy here. Leaving him alone doesn’t get rid of him.) ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1423 "2018-02-06T05:14:53Z")
> [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](#): > > Wait. You don’t like women who fornicate? And you don’t like marriage? I wouldn’t be here if my Mom wasn’t a fornicator. Thank you for spreading those legs, Mom! ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1424 "2018-02-06T05:40:30Z")
Ew! ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1425 "2018-02-06T05:55:10Z")
_Ex-wifey came in and she caught me red-handed Creeping at my daughter’s door …_ -Shaggy _It wasn’t me._ Copyright © Sony/ATV Music Publishing LLC ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1426 "2018-02-06T06:28:15Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Antagonizing him to get him to break the rules is a time-tested technique to get rid of posters here. What’s the difference between that and trolling? ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1427 "2018-02-06T06:35:12Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > What’s the difference between that and trolling? None. I certainly don’t want BigT banned, but he is pro violence and pro outing when it serves his political interests. Shaggy is a train wreck but its moronic to think anything he has said is worthy of banning. People seem to enjoy engaging with him. He sadly gets traffic to the site. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1428 "2018-02-06T07:47:11Z")
But…there is blatant threats. Don’t forget that. ---
**Author:** ![spinky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@spinky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spinky)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1429 "2018-02-06T08:11:08Z")
I don’t actually think he’s trolling. I think he honestly thinks his stories sound cool and make him look like a player. To me, they don’t ring true, and even if they were 100% true, they make him look like sad and pathetic and overly impressed by the same things he was when he was 15. I mean, just one little datapoint, even if the Russian lady exists and really was wearing a $7k bracelet (I think that was the number), does anyone really want to hang out with the kind of classless douche that would tell you the price tag of her very expensive bracelet on the first date? For someone so obsessed with class and status, that’s an incredibly low-class thing to tolerate. Most people would probably either think she was embarrassingly gauche or start wondering if she was full of shit and pulling some kind of scam. Not **Shags**. In his mind, that makes her appealing and worthy of bragging about here. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1430 "2018-02-06T08:33:56Z")
Shags isn’t trolling, but he’s taken you on a helluva ride. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1431 "2018-02-06T08:33:59Z")
> [@spinky](#): > > I don’t actually think he’s trolling. I think he honestly thinks his stories sound cool and make him look like a player. To me, they don’t ring true, and even if they were 100% true, they make him look like sad and pathetic and overly impressed by the same things he was when he was 15. > > I mean, just one little datapoint, even if the Russian lady exists and really was wearing a $7k bracelet (I think that was the number), does anyone really want to hang out with the kind of classless douche that would tell you the price tag of her very expensive bracelet on the first date? For someone so obsessed with class and status, that’s an incredibly low-class thing to tolerate. Most people would probably either think she was embarrassingly gauche or start wondering if she was full of shit and pulling some kind of scam. Not **Shags**. In his mind, that makes her appealing and worthy of bragging about here. Thank you. If it makes anyone feel any better, I think she trolled me in real life as well. Players often run into other players that are better than they are and you can have the tables turned. She is definitely real and I still think it was worth it but you can’t just go out with someone that freely admits to taking her ex-spouse to the cleaners and wanted me to take her to one of the most expensive resorts in the Caribbean next month. I respect her gold-digging because at least she was blatant about it. It only cost me a couple of thousand dollars and she is porn star incredible in bed. However, someone else is going to have to support her financially and she will ultimately break them too. It just isn’t going to be me. I already screwed her at the introductory rate. I don’t need a subscription. ---
**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1432 "2018-02-06T08:43:46Z")
> [@spinky](#): > > I don’t actually think he’s trolling. I think he honestly thinks his stories sound cool and make him look like a player. To me, they don’t ring true, and even if they were 100% true, they make him look like sad and pathetic and overly impressed by the same things he was when he was 15. > > I mean, just one little datapoint, even if the Russian lady exists and really was wearing a $7k bracelet (I think that was the number), does anyone really want to hang out with the kind of classless douche that would tell you the price tag of her very expensive bracelet on the first date? For someone so obsessed with class and status, that’s an incredibly low-class thing to tolerate. Most people would probably either think she was embarrassingly gauche or start wondering if she was full of shit and pulling some kind of scam. Not **Shags**. In his mind, that makes her appealing and worthy of bragging about here. The trolling only started when nobody thought that he could even be at the level of the cheap superficial douche he admires enough to pretend to be. No doubt he’s really someone who would be impressed by the cost of a bracelet and talk about it a lot. He comes across as a bombastic douche even while he thinks he is dazzling everyone with tales of his gold plated lifestyle - it’s like Trump in a room full of authentically smart and successful people. But the \*really \*sad thing is even the gold plating isn’t true. But somewhere a while back a switch flipped and he realized people weren’t buying it but he could piss them off if he took it up a notch on the woman hating. ---
**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 9:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1433 "2018-02-06T09:00:06Z")
> [@Crazyhorse](#): > > But somewhere a while back a switch flipped and he realized people weren’t buying it but he could piss them off if he took it up a notch on the woman hating. That is the part you aren’t getting. I don’t hate women. Not even close. I love most of them and dedicate my life to people like my mother and daughters. I do hate bitches and gold-diggers though and I will actively work to take them down. Many men are just plain assholes. That is just a given and I completely agree. The thing that some people don’t understand is that just adding a vagina into the mix doesn’t take that away. Many women are horrible people as well. There is nothing inherently honorable about having boobs. You just have to sort them out one by one. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1434 "2018-02-06T17:02:22Z")
I’ve not skimmed this thread for weeks. Can someone please review the charges against Mr. Shagnasty? Is he a right-winger politically? — I hate those idiots. Is the main (or only) charge that Shagnasty is a misogynistic asshole (or prick? what’s the asshole/prick difference anyway?)? > [@Shagnasty](#): > > That is the part you aren’t getting. I don’t hate women. Not even close. I love most of them and dedicate my life to people like my mother and daughters. I do hate bitches and gold-diggers though and I will actively work to take them down. > > Many men are just plain assholes. That is just a given and I completely agree. The thing that some people don’t understand is that just adding a vagina into the mix doesn’t take that away. Many women are horrible people as well. There is nothing inherently honorable about having boobs. > > You just have to sort them out one by one. Reviewing the three paragraphs in inside-out order. [3] _ **You just have to sort them out one by one.** _. This _could be_ a frightening claim, on so many levels. Or, simple wise advice. I’d ask Mr. Shagnasty to explain this in detail to his psychiatrist and have him/her provide us confidential professional opinions. I have no problem with [1] “I don’t hate women”\*, but I will take issue with [2]. It is _you_ who here reduces a woman to vagina and boobs. Surely the brain is the most sensuous organ a woman can have. Why not speak also of the smile, the caress, the beautiful soul? The bountifullest palace of joy? And, yes, a shot at a lifetime of domestic bliss and dreams come true? TL;DR. Hmmmm. Without the psych. report I’m afraid I’ll need a brief summary of the **charges and evidence against Mr. Shagnasty** before rendering a verdict here. (\* Have I mentioned my peculiar typing-glitch disorder? I typed ‘weapon’ for ‘woman.’ :eek: ) ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1435 "2018-02-06T18:24:31Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > Yes. Almost all women are whores and they have their price. Then again, so do I. It is just about the negotiations process to come to terms. > [@Shagnasty](#): > > That is the part you aren’t getting. I don’t hate women. Not even close. I love most of them and dedicate my life to people like my mother and daughters. I do hate bitches and gold-diggers though and I will actively work to take them down. > > Many men are just plain assholes. That is just a given and I completely agree. The thing that some people don’t understand is that just adding a vagina into the mix doesn’t take that away. Many women are horrible people as well. There is nothing inherently honorable about having boobs. > > You just have to sort them out one by one. Almost all women are whores and I love most of them. Yeah. No misogyny there at all. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1436 "2018-02-06T18:27:42Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > What’s the difference between that and trolling? None. And it’s the same tactic that the inbreeds in the omnibus troll thread employ. However, it’s condoned in the pit so the best tactic is recognizing how transparent and amateur the in-group trolls are and pay them little mind. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1437 "2018-02-06T19:03:59Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > None. And it’s the same tactic that the inbreeds in the omnibus troll thread employ. However, it’s condoned in the pit so the best tactic is recognizing how transparent and amateur the in-group trolls are and pay them little mind. You and **Shagnasty** planned that meet-up yet? He’s famously über-hetero, so it probably won’t go anywhere, but you never know. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1438 "2018-02-06T19:13:11Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > You and **Shagnasty** planned that meet-up yet? He’s famously über-hetero, so it probably won’t go anywhere, but you never know. Shaggy would love Octoputz. You know what an octopus has between each of [del]his[/del] its 8 legs? Shaggy is going to see this as 8 for the price of 1. ---
**Author:** ![expectopatronum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/expectopatronum/32/173_2.png) [@expectopatronum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/expectopatronum)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1439 "2018-02-06T20:18:20Z")
this is the thread that never ends yes it goes on and on my friend ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661/1440 "2018-02-06T21:52:37Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Shaggy would love Octoputz. You know what an octopus has between each of [del]his[/del] its 8 legs? Shaggy is going to see this as 8 for the price of 1. Octoputz? Ow…☹ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661.md?page=71) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-is-a-misogynistic-prick/801661.md?page=73)