# Shagnasty, stop apologizining for the Nazis, you racist fuck.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-stop-apologizining-for-the-nazis-you-racist-fuck/687418>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 1, 2014, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-stop-apologizining-for-the-nazis-you-racist-fuck/687418 "2014-05-01T04:18:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2014, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-stop-apologizining-for-the-nazis-you-racist-fuck/687418/41 "2014-05-01T14:12:15Z")

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> [@nevadaexile](#):
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> As much as I would love to get into a meaningless Internet argument with someone who I will never meet ( that’s always useful) I’ll pass. I’ve made my points and you disagree with them.

I don’t disagree with them. I just can’t agree with them until you actually finish making them. Shagnasty said it was a good thing that German prisoners were treated well. He didn’t say it was a good thing they were treated better than blacks, and you either can’t or won’t explain where he did.

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**Author:** ![nevadaexile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/eb8c5e/32.png) [@nevadaexile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nevadaexile)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2014, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-stop-apologizining-for-the-nazis-you-racist-fuck/687418/42 "2014-05-01T14:14:40Z")

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> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#):
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> In other words, you’ve got jack shit.
> 
> In the future, please stop making things up out of whole cloth.
> 
> Oh, crap. You’re an idiot. I did not know that.
> 
> My bad.

Let’s see:

1. So’s your old man
2. Takes one to know one
3. I’m rubber, you’re glue…
4. I know you are. But what am I?

Please select a childish response to go with your simplistic comments.

Are we still arguing, as I already stated that I have low opinion of your…opinions.  
Or did you miss that train as well, sparky?

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**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2014, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-stop-apologizining-for-the-nazis-you-racist-fuck/687418/43 "2014-05-01T14:16:33Z")

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You haven’t even started arguing. As RNATB pointed out, all you’ve done is lie about what Shagnasty said, then refuse to explain why. That isn’t an argument.

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**Author:** ![nevadaexile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/eb8c5e/32.png) [@nevadaexile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nevadaexile)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2014, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-stop-apologizining-for-the-nazis-you-racist-fuck/687418/44 "2014-05-01T14:16:45Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> I don’t disagree with them. I just can’t agree with them until you actually finish making them. Shagnasty said it was a good thing that German prisoners were treated well. He didn’t say it was a good thing they were treated better than blacks, and you either can’t or won’t explain where he did.

Yeah…well…since I didn’t direct the comment that you quoted toward **you** …there’s probably not much a need to respond to it.

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**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2014, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-stop-apologizining-for-the-nazis-you-racist-fuck/687418/45 "2014-05-01T14:19:12Z")

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> [@nevadaexile](#):
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> The default setting for Southerner Whites is RACIST.  
> The user has to reset that option themselves.
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> Most do not.

Wow. I make up a hyperbolic and silly extreme to mock your position…

…and it turns out that’s actually what you believe and you fully admit it!

Classic.

> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#):
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> Oh, crap. You’re an idiot. I did not know that.
> 
> My bad.

Yes. This. We didn’t fully realize at first the level of stupidity we were dealing with.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2014, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-stop-apologizining-for-the-nazis-you-racist-fuck/687418/46 "2014-05-01T14:32:55Z")

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> [@nevadaexile](#):
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> Yeah…well…since I didn’t direct the comment that you quoted toward **you** …there’s probably not much a need to respond to it.

Do you understand how a message board works?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2014, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-stop-apologizining-for-the-nazis-you-racist-fuck/687418/47 "2014-05-01T14:33:32Z")

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> [@nevadaexile](#):
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> Actually, I posted the definition the of the word.

Yeah, that’s great, but this in the Internet. We’ve all got a dictionary here. What you need to do is show how the dictionary definition applies to anything **Shagnasty** said.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2014, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-stop-apologizining-for-the-nazis-you-racist-fuck/687418/48 "2014-05-01T14:35:15Z")

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> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#):
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> You haven’t even started arguing. As RNATB pointed out, all you’ve done is lie about what Shagnasty said, then refuse to explain why. That isn’t an argument.

Yes, it is.

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**Author:** ![nevadaexile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/eb8c5e/32.png) [@nevadaexile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nevadaexile)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2014, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-stop-apologizining-for-the-nazis-you-racist-fuck/687418/49 "2014-05-01T14:37:52Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Yeah, that’s great, but this in the Internet. We’ve all got a dictionary here. What you need to do is show how the dictionary definition applies to anything **Shagnasty** said.

Thanks for that.  
I was unaware that I was on the Internet and I only learned that fact after you told me.

Are there any more obvious statements forthcoming or can we all agree that we disagree and drop the matter entirely?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2014, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-stop-apologizining-for-the-nazis-you-racist-fuck/687418/50 "2014-05-01T14:48:33Z")

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You seem to be unaware of a lot of things. That’s okay. That’s what this board is here for.

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**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2014, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-stop-apologizining-for-the-nazis-you-racist-fuck/687418/51 "2014-05-01T14:52:01Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> Yes, it is.

Very well done, sir.

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**Author:** ![lost4life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@lost4life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lost4life)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2014, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-stop-apologizining-for-the-nazis-you-racist-fuck/687418/52 "2014-05-01T15:11:31Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> Well I’m glad that everyone’s (mostly) agreed the original pitting was a misread and we’re all friends now, but Shagnasty \*is \*a racist. I’ll be damned before I try to use this POS search function before I’ve had a drink to properly cushion myself from the ensuing rage, but he’s one of those race realist guys. He’s claimed that blacks have, I dunno, the black gene or whatever that causes them to be genetically less intelligent than whites and the whole nine. So there’s that.

Wow, you’re very well spoken…

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2014, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-stop-apologizining-for-the-nazis-you-racist-fuck/687418/53 "2014-05-01T15:12:02Z")

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I fully support this pitting of **nevadaexile**. What a maroon.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2014, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-stop-apologizining-for-the-nazis-you-racist-fuck/687418/54 "2014-05-01T15:17:21Z")

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> [@nevadaexile](#):
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> The default setting for Southerner Whites is RACIST.  
> The user has to reset that option themselves.
> 
> Most do not.

You are a racist piece of cubed wombat shit.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2014, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-stop-apologizining-for-the-nazis-you-racist-fuck/687418/55 "2014-05-01T15:19:50Z")

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> [@nevadaexile](#):
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> can we all agree that we disagree and drop the matter entirely?

Nobody is struggling under the impression that there is no disagreement here. You see, this is, at least in theory, something called a “discussion”. Saying “we disagree about something” is the START of the discussion, not the end of it. Once a disagreement has been established, participants then go ON to do things like explain their position, show the logic behind it, and even use external citations to support what they think, all with the aim of convincing the other side, or possibly neutral observers, that their convictions are correct.

Or, as an alternate strategy, they flounce off in a hissy fit, refusing to engage with anyone about anything, and leave everyone else all revved up and ready to have a discussion without satisfaction. These people tend to get bad reputations around here, and are often not invited back to the table.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2014, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-stop-apologizining-for-the-nazis-you-racist-fuck/687418/56 "2014-05-01T15:21:43Z")

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The funny thing is that **Shagnasty** _has_ said racist stuff in the past.

> [@nevadaexile](#):
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> Yeah…well…since I didn’t direct the comment that you quoted toward **you** …there’s probably not much a need to respond to it.

> [@nevadaexile](#):
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> Are there any more obvious statements forthcoming or can we all agree that we disagree and drop the matter entirely?

We can all agree that you’re wrong because you refuse to defend your position. How’s that?

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2014, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-stop-apologizining-for-the-nazis-you-racist-fuck/687418/57 "2014-05-01T15:45:53Z")

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> [@nevadaexile](#):
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> The default setting for Southerner Whites is RACIST.  
> The user has to reset that option themselves.
> 
> Most do not.

That’s a pretty nice definition of a bigot right there. This Pitting of you is well deserved!!

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2014, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-stop-apologizining-for-the-nazis-you-racist-fuck/687418/58 "2014-05-01T15:48:04Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> I fully support this pitting of **nevadaexile**. What a maroon.

I agree 100%.

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**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2014, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-stop-apologizining-for-the-nazis-you-racist-fuck/687418/59 "2014-05-01T15:48:45Z")

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> [@kambuckta](#):
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> I thought it was common knowledge that the Germans treated prisoners of war (especially British and American soldiers) humanely, and according to the (then) agreed conventions.

In the interests of fighting ignorance, this statement is shockingly ignorant. **The Germans murdered 3.3 million Soviet POWs**. Soviet POWs were the second largest group of victims of the holocaust, and the first victims of Zyklon B in the gas chambers. [Link to the US Holocaust Memorial Museum](http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007183).

Malmedy, mentioned upthread by **Jackmannii** is also just the tip of the iceburg of massacres of prisoners and civilians by the Nazis during WWII. For starters, [Wormhoudt massacre](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormhoudt_massacre), [Oradour-sur-Glane](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oradour-sur-Glane), [Tulle Murders](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulle_murders), [Le Paradis massacre](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Paradis_massacre), [Acsq massacre](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascq_massacre), and the murder of 156 Canadian and 2 British POWs by the 12th SS Panzer Division _Hitlerjugend_ in [Normandy](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12th_SS_Panzer_Division_Hitlerjugend#War_crimes).

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2014, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-stop-apologizining-for-the-nazis-you-racist-fuck/687418/60 "2014-05-01T15:52:17Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> I agree 100%.

I agree 101%.

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