# Shagnasty, stop apologizining for the Nazis, you racist fuck. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 1, 2014, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-stop-apologizining-for-the-nazis-you-racist-fuck/687418 "2014-05-01T04:18:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2014, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-stop-apologizining-for-the-nazis-you-racist-fuck/687418/101 "2014-05-02T06:27:08Z")
Strawmanning, name calling, shouting and hysteria. I’m convinced. Where do I sign up and at what point am I issued with my pitchfork? ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2014, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-stop-apologizining-for-the-nazis-you-racist-fuck/687418/102 "2014-05-02T07:38:44Z")
> [@BlakeTyner](#): > > Disclaimer: I’m a southerner, so racist by default and all that. Now I’m concerned. I’m living in the south of Ireland now, does that mean I’m a racist? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4zWdSxKYFo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4zWdSxKYFo) ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2014, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-stop-apologizining-for-the-nazis-you-racist-fuck/687418/103 "2014-05-02T07:58:38Z")
Well in Australian terms I’m a northerner. Of course, around here everything is upside-down. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2014, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-stop-apologizining-for-the-nazis-you-racist-fuck/687418/104 "2014-05-02T10:03:00Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > It isn’t technically racism “It isn’t _technically_ bestiality because birds aren’t _technically_ ‘beasts’ - so I’ll [keep fucking this chicken](http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Keep%20fucking%20that%20chicken&defid=5352576)…” ---
**Author:** ![Latro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a87d85/32.png) [@Latro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latro)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2014, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-stop-apologizining-for-the-nazis-you-racist-fuck/687418/105 "2014-05-02T10:11:39Z")
Says the most Southernest of all. ---
**Author:** ![BlakeTyner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@BlakeTyner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlakeTyner)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2014, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-stop-apologizining-for-the-nazis-you-racist-fuck/687418/106 "2014-05-02T12:02:48Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > Strawmanning, name calling, shouting and hysteria. > > I’m convinced. Where do I sign up and at what point am I issued with my pitchfork? Pretty much this. I was just under the impression that “what if” was sort of the whole key to discovery. Although I do like the philosophy of answering everything with “so fucking what?” Your husband died? So did my mother’s. _So fucking what?_ You lost your job? I was laid off last year. _So fucking what?_ You have a third nipple? My dog’s got like a dozen. _So fucking what?_ Anyway, excuse me while I go fill out my Race Realist application card. I’ve been led to believe I’m eligible for the Quack Quack chapter. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2014, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-stop-apologizining-for-the-nazis-you-racist-fuck/687418/107 "2014-05-02T15:07:20Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > Well in Australian terms I’m a northerner. Of course, around here everything is upside-down. So, hot snow falls up? ---
**Author:** ![Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/aca169/32.png) [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inbred_Mm_domesticus)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2014, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-stop-apologizining-for-the-nazis-you-racist-fuck/687418/108 "2014-05-02T16:22:26Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > Strawmanning, name calling, shouting and hysteria. > > I’m convinced. Where do I sign up and at what point am I issued with my pitchfork? My personal goal was to call him names. I succeeded. You’re an idiot. > [@BlakeTyner](#): > > Pretty much this. > > I was just under the impression that “what if” was sort of the whole key to discovery. Although I do like the philosophy of answering everything with “so fucking what?” > > Your husband died? So did my mother’s. _So fucking what?_ > > You lost your job? I was laid off last year. _So fucking what?_ > > You have a third nipple? My dog’s got like a dozen. _So fucking what?_ > > Anyway, excuse me while I go fill out my Race Realist application card. I’ve been led to believe I’m eligible for the Quack Quack chapter. Keep JAQ’in it. I sincerely hope your students do not run into your unabashed arrogance and stupidity. ---
**Author:** ![BlakeTyner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@BlakeTyner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlakeTyner)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2014, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-stop-apologizining-for-the-nazis-you-racist-fuck/687418/109 "2014-05-02T16:39:39Z")
> [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](#): > > Keep JAQ’in it. I sincerely hope your students do not run into your unabashed arrogance and stupidity. You know I don’t get bent out of shape about what strangers on the internet think, right? And you know I’m not going to stoop to a pissing contest, right? Good day. Bless you always!!! ---
**Author:** ![Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/aca169/32.png) [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inbred_Mm_domesticus)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2014, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-stop-apologizining-for-the-nazis-you-racist-fuck/687418/110 "2014-05-02T17:50:58Z")
> [@BlakeTyner](#): > > You know I don’t get bent out of shape about what strangers on the internet think, right? > > And you know I’m not going to stoop to a pissing contest, right? > > Good day. Bless you always!!! I’d tell you to go look up hybrid vigor, critically analyze it in relation to your hypothesis, and come back here with an essay to post on why your idea was stupid and exhibited nothing more than picking and choosing genetic-sounding words to support your racism, but I know better. Just admit what you are to yourself and others and be happy with it. You’re a racist. If you’re not happy with it then address your racism. This middle ground where you don’t want to admit you’re a racist while shitting on other fields of knowledge just makes you a turd. ---
**Author:** ![BlakeTyner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@BlakeTyner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlakeTyner)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2014, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-stop-apologizining-for-the-nazis-you-racist-fuck/687418/111 "2014-05-02T19:38:59Z")
> [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](#): > > I’d tell you to go look up hybrid vigor, critically analyze it in relation to your hypothesis, and come back here with an essay to post on why your idea was stupid and exhibited nothing more than picking and choosing genetic-sounding words to support your racism, but I know better. > > Just admit what you are to yourself and others and be happy with it. You’re a racist. If you’re not happy with it then address your racism. This middle ground where you don’t want to admit you’re a racist while shitting on other fields of knowledge just makes you a turd. Okay, I’m a racist. _Shrug_ Move on. ---
**Author:** ![BlakeTyner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@BlakeTyner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlakeTyner)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2014, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-stop-apologizining-for-the-nazis-you-racist-fuck/687418/112 "2014-05-02T19:50:06Z")
Since I missed the edit window… Amend the above to say: Okay, I’m a racist. _So fucking what?__Shrug_ ---
**Author:** ![Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/aca169/32.png) [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inbred_Mm_domesticus)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2014, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-stop-apologizining-for-the-nazis-you-racist-fuck/687418/113 "2014-05-02T20:17:30Z")
> [@BlakeTyner](#): > > Since I missed the edit window… > > Amend the above to say: > > Okay, I’m a racist. _So fucking what?__Shrug_ Cool, now promise to never talk about genetics until you’ve taken an introductory course on the subject and asked all your stupid questions in class and we’re good. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2014, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-stop-apologizining-for-the-nazis-you-racist-fuck/687418/114 "2014-05-02T21:31:46Z")
> [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](#): > > Cool, now promise to never talk about genetics until you’ve taken an introductory course on the subject and asked all your stupid questions in class and we’re good. **Inbred** , _(maybe that’s a clue)_ mayI ask what your ancestry is. I’m just curious if your massive assholeness should be owned by you alone, or if your ancestors—inbred or otherwise—should share some of the credit… ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2014, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-stop-apologizining-for-the-nazis-you-racist-fuck/687418/115 "2014-05-02T21:36:56Z")
\*My Dearest Kettle, I ache for your touch. Forever yours, Pot\* ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2014, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-stop-apologizining-for-the-nazis-you-racist-fuck/687418/116 "2014-05-03T01:44:02Z")
> [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](#): > > My personal goal was to call him names. I succeeded. You’re an idiot. It’s probably a good idea to set your goals at this sort of level. No point in you attempting to strive for things beyond your capability. ---
**Author:** ![BlakeTyner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@BlakeTyner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlakeTyner)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2014, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-stop-apologizining-for-the-nazis-you-racist-fuck/687418/117 "2014-05-03T11:53:07Z")
> [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](#): > > Keep JAQ’in it. I sincerely hope your students do not run into your unabashed arrogance and stupidity. My students can speak for themselves: [Linky](http://tinypic.com/r/2h6evjt/8) ---
**Author:** ![Dave\_Hartwick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7feea3/32.png) [@Dave\_Hartwick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dave_Hartwick)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2014, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-stop-apologizining-for-the-nazis-you-racist-fuck/687418/118 "2014-05-03T12:26:41Z")
> [@BlakeTyner](#): > > My students can speak for themselves: > > [Linky](http://tinypic.com/r/2h6evjt/8) That makes you not a stupid racist how? ---
**Author:** ![Dave\_Hartwick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7feea3/32.png) [@Dave\_Hartwick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dave_Hartwick)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2014, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-stop-apologizining-for-the-nazis-you-racist-fuck/687418/119 "2014-05-03T12:35:04Z")
Oh, here’s a classic for you: In this same line of thinking, abortion is both immoral and still a good thing overall. The pro-choice movement has never convinced me that their arguments are anything but an ad-hoc attempt to justify a desired outcome and the typical arguments are sophomoric at best. They argue, “It is just a clump of cells”? What do you think you are? “It is a woman’s body”? Maybe you get fooled every time by those Russian stacking dolls but I don’t. People can’t justify all other actions using the “my body” argument so I don’t see why that applies to abortion debates. That said, I am Pro-abortion these days. That is slightly different than being Pro-choice. I think it should be aggressively encouraged even if it is immoral. Morals aren’t everything. Freakonomics makes the argument that the crime rate fell drastically during the 1990’s until now mostly because the would-be criminals were aborted because the people breeding them were among the most likely to get abortions. I don’t know if that argument is completely true but it sounds plausible and I am all for voluntary genocide if the good outweighs the bad overall. At the very least, abortion limits the number of unwanted children and keeps population growth in check. Abortion should be legal, safe and incredibly common. ---
**Author:** ![BlakeTyner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@BlakeTyner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlakeTyner)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2014, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-stop-apologizining-for-the-nazis-you-racist-fuck/687418/120 "2014-05-03T12:48:22Z")
> [@Dave\_Hartwick](#): > > That makes you not a stupid racist how? Well, demographically, 20% are black, so I suppose my racism is only internal. Incidentally, the only point I made is that I don’t get why any question of differences between populations is verboten on the Dope. I personally don’t care if European-descended populations have a genetic or other _disadvantage_. As I stated in my first post of the thread, I’ve never seen any truth to the traditional racial stereotypes; as we go into finals week, the student with the highest average in any of my 6 courses is a black male, and the student with the lowest is an Asian female. That’s not really abnormal. Hell, it wouldn’t surprise me if the surviving Neanderthal genes turned out to affect aggression, or whatever switch that gets flipped in sociopaths and serial killers–almost exclusively white. Point is, I don’t have any preference for what ultimately comes to light. I was trying to determine at what point the cries of “racism” begin. I know this is the pit, but does crying “RACIST!” or “STUPID!” really accomplish anything, other than anonymous passive aggression? I don’t have enough investment in my online avatar to take offense to it, and it’s not like I’ll suddenly snap and have some sort of classic SDMB meltdown, so it must be thrilling for the accuser on whatever level. Anyway, I’ll bow out of the thread. If you’d like to make a note of my online identity and associate it with a stupid racist, that’s your prerogative. You win. I lose. _Shrug_ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-stop-apologizining-for-the-nazis-you-racist-fuck/687418.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnasty-stop-apologizining-for-the-nazis-you-racist-fuck/687418.md?page=7)