# Shagnasty's topic ban?

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**Created:** [January 30, 2018, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnastys-topic-ban/807791 "2018-01-30T10:06:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnastys-topic-ban/807791/61 "2018-01-31T06:04:30Z")

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Knowing how things have been going lately in my life\*, I’m too worried that post will be misunderstood. I think it can easily come off as much more mean than I meant it to be. I was shooting for equivalent snark.

Let me try again, without trying to be snarky at all.

We care about this board, so of course we care if someone is trolling it. If you think we’re all just posting about stupid stuff that you don’t care to even read the titles, then of course you don’t really care one way or the other.

A troll is someone who is deliberately trying to piss people off for their own amusement. They add nothing to the board, and only try to make it worse. Allowing a troll to technically skate by is a bad idea.

I am hopeful that Shagnasty is not a troll, and that this is just a problem on a specific topic. He did say he loves “negative attention,” so I hope he doesn’t try to get it in some other way.

[sup]\*Dad just got fired from a job for made up bullshit. Don’t know what we’re going to do.[/sup]

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**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnastys-topic-ban/807791/62 "2018-01-31T06:27:08Z")

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I am sorry to hear of your family’s troubles. I hope you’re able to pull yourself together soon.

Good luck.

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**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnastys-topic-ban/807791/63 "2018-01-31T06:34:16Z")

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I am not a troll **BigT**. I just have some strong opinions on a few things in the same way that you do and it pisses some people off even though I am sincere. You are the type of person that I was thinking of when I said I would happily go out to eat with even though we disagree on many things. There is no problem with that. I don’t expect most people to agree with me on some things.

You probably noticed that I don’t attack you either because I know you truly believe what you are saying. It takes all types to make the world go round. I don’t dislike any particular group, especially women. I just have strong opinions on modern, American style romantic relationships. Those don’t apply to friends, coworkers, bosses, family members or anyone else except for those involved.

I am sorry to hear about your father as well. Those things happen all too frequently unfortunately.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnastys-topic-ban/807791/64 "2018-01-31T07:02:27Z")

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I am sorry to hear your probs Big T, good luck on that.  
Back to the topic, I am glad Shag got a topic ban. That topic was just way out of control. Way TMI in my opinion. I tend to spew on and on about my family and pets, I try to keep it somewhat controlled. But, I think spewing about chasing women on the internet and all the ins and outs of your romantic or sexual conquests is just out of line.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnastys-topic-ban/807791/65 "2018-01-31T07:52:24Z")

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Is Shagnasty spamming the boards with threads or is this a case of sheltering the benighted from their own Pavlovian impulses? A thread or two that are annoying are easily ignored.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnastys-topic-ban/807791/66 "2018-01-31T10:06:14Z")

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I think it was a good decision. The poster in question was being more and more incendiary, probably knowingly, and responding to any disagreement or criticism with just upping the ante. And it certainly wasn’t the first time.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnastys-topic-ban/807791/67 "2018-01-31T10:55:48Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> I think it was a good decision. The poster in question was being more and more incendiary, probably knowingly, and responding to any disagreement or criticism with just upping the ante. And it certainly wasn’t the first time.

Then why not ban or suspend him? How does this differ from **Pjen** and Scottish Nationalism?

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnastys-topic-ban/807791/68 "2018-01-31T12:24:28Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> Then why not ban or suspend him? How does this differ from **Pjen** and Scottish Nationalism?

See [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=756884).

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> For amassing six warnings in a year - one of them following a suspension - poster Pjen has been banned.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnastys-topic-ban/807791/69 "2018-01-31T13:28:38Z")

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Some times, if you give someone enough rope, they inevitably tie it around their neck and, well, problem solved.

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**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnastys-topic-ban/807791/70 "2018-01-31T15:48:45Z")

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> [@Penfeather](#):
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> Thank goodness. The point had long passed where this board allowing him to indulge in his gleeful misogyny was making it complicit. He wants to air views like his in the way he did, there are plenty of outlets on the internet happy to indulge him. The SDMB shouldn’t be one.

Agree.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnastys-topic-ban/807791/71 "2018-01-31T15:52:48Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> I think it was a good decision. The poster in question was being more and more incendiary, probably knowingly, and responding to any disagreement or criticism with just upping the ante. And it certainly wasn’t the first time.

That reflects more on those who feel an irrational compulsion to respond. What’s far more spammy on these boards is the tedious and immature Trump bashing. Topic ban that and bandwidth costs are halved.

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnastys-topic-ban/807791/72 "2018-01-31T16:35:38Z")

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I support topic bans in the general case … this is intended to address the repetitive nature of starting new threads by a poster … it can get disruptive and once it does become a problem I think a topic ban is effective in correcting it … the problem is too many threads, not necessarily the content of the threads …

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnastys-topic-ban/807791/73 "2018-01-31T16:38:49Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> That reflects more on those who feel an irrational compulsion to respond. What’s far more spammy on these boards is the tedious and immature Trump bashing. Topic ban that and bandwidth costs are halved.

Leaving the door open for unopposed Trump cheerleading?

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnastys-topic-ban/807791/74 "2018-01-31T16:42:41Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Is Shagnasty spamming the boards with threads or is this a case of sheltering the benighted from their own Pavlovian impulses? A thread or two that are annoying are easily ignored.

Yep. I dont see the point here, his threads dont bother me at all. I can just not read them.

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**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnastys-topic-ban/807791/75 "2018-01-31T18:40:33Z")

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> I know it will come as a relief for everyone to know that I am never getting banned. I know how to follow the rules perfectly fine.

They usually do, yes.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnastys-topic-ban/807791/76 "2018-01-31T18:42:43Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> That reflects more on those who feel an irrational compulsion to respond. What’s far more spammy on these boards is the tedious and immature Trump bashing. Topic ban that and bandwidth costs are halved.

I don’t think Trump bashing is anywhere close to what he deserves and our nation needs.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnastys-topic-ban/807791/77 "2018-01-31T18:56:20Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> I don’t think Trump bashing is anywhere close to what he deserves and our nation needs.

Just saying that whatever amount of triggering posts that Shagnasty makes on the subject of his dating prowess it’s dwarfed by the amount of ridiculous political hyperbole. But let’s take a proactive stance, to show the board cares!, against 2-3 potential future threads.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnastys-topic-ban/807791/78 "2018-01-31T19:10:36Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Just saying that whatever amount of triggering posts that Shagnasty makes on the subject of his dating prowess it’s dwarfed by the amount of ridiculous political hyperbole. But let’s take a proactive stance, to show the board cares!, against 2-3 potential future threads.

You’re clear on the difference between blogging and posting, right? Does this board owe anyone their own blogspace?

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnastys-topic-ban/807791/79 "2018-01-31T19:36:52Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> You’re clear on the difference between blogging and posting, right? Does this board owe anyone their own blogspace?

Of course not. However, a few of the forums are more less used for pointless/relatively unimportant topics. If these forums are used as intended and not spammed a couple related posts, even if unpopular, seem appropriate. I find the multiple posts on how to describe AHunter3’s identity, iirc, a bit redundant. My solution? Don’t contribute much to those threads. It’s very easy and everyone can do it.

Honestly, a topic ban means that the forum participants lack self control. They don’t like a thread yet have a compulsion to post in it? And as soon as someone else makes a thread discussing women Shagnasty can post as a normal poster in that thread. This seems like the product of discombobulated thinking.

But, ultimately, you are correct. Their playground and their rules.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2018, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shagnastys-topic-ban/807791/80 "2018-02-01T00:23:43Z")

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If a pseudo “troll” starts a thread ever now and then that gets some peoples panties in a bunch…and the SDMB masses can’t resist the troll bait…that’s their own damn fault.

The mods aren’t dealing with the "troll"so much…its more like they are saving the other posters from their own stupidity, lack of self control and an inability to deal with their emotional reactions to points of view and topics that upset their special world view.

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