# Shakespeare Mafia-- Act I **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [July 12, 2025, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789 "2025-07-12T15:19:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![LH75](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lh75/32/4438_2.png) [@LH75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LH75)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/201 "2025-07-16T12:41:50Z")
> [@Pardel-Lux](#): > > **LH75** is suspicious because they team up with you in post 159. This is circular reasoning, I know. **LH75** suspicion leans on yours. Your assumption that somehow AotN and I have “teamed up” is unsupported. In my read list I stated that I thought she was Town. This was not a **WK** , just an observation. ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/202 "2025-07-16T12:52:00Z")
What is WK? ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/203 "2025-07-16T13:01:25Z")
Sorry that question is for LH75 but if it a common abbreviation that I am too dense to get anyone can answer. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/204 "2025-07-16T13:22:43Z")
> [@glee](#): > > Although I haven’t played Mafia here for around 10 years, I have watched the UK TV program [The Traitors - BBC iPlayer](https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/p0db9b2t/the-traitors), which is a live version. Huh, I’ve seen ads for that, but didn’t know that was what it was. I thought it was a scripted comedy. ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/205 "2025-07-16T13:25:12Z")
> [@storyteller0910](#): > > His early Vanilla claim gives me a very gentle Town lean on **glee** , as it suggests to me a new player exploring the game in his own way without outside guidance (of the sort that a Villain board might provide). Nothing probative, but he’s not on my suspicion list for today. > > I feel similarly about **Sun Up**. I think most Villain boards would have cautioned him against that long jokey post about numbers of Villains, and certainly against the follow up post about a Vigilante - those sorts of posts come with huge risk of inadvertently revealing hidden knowledge about the setup. > > Obviously, both of those leans are moot if the Villain board is either made up entirely of inexperienced players or is unusually quiet. So they’re barely leans at all, but they are leans. When I am on a Scum team I advise a Newbie just the opposite. Being New is a power role in and of itself. You get a break for being new at the game. New players are almost never yeeted early whether Town or Scum. The first Mafia game I ever played in I was a Town and survived until near the end. Scum didn’t take me seriously and Town commented positively on my flailing around. In my second Mafia game I was Scum and flailed around again, lasting until the end and IIRC only losing at a tiebreaker on the last Day. New players are simply not yeeted early. It is a great power and I hope our newbies use it to the hilt. It will addict you to Mafia. ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/206 "2025-07-16T13:46:32Z")
> [@LH75](#): > > This was not a **WK** , just an observation. > [@Biotop](#): > > What is WK? I can’t find WK as an abbreviation in a Mafia game either… ---
**Author:** ![LH75](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lh75/32/4438_2.png) [@LH75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LH75)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/207 "2025-07-16T14:31:01Z")
WK is a common abbreviation on some game sites for **W** hite **K** night, which is a post to make another player look more Townie Sorry, I did not know it was not used here. To unpack the post, I just thought, at the time, that **AoftN** was Town rather than Scum. This was an opinion rather than a statement of fact ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/208 "2025-07-16T15:11:57Z")
As we approach the 24 hour mark, I’ll try to find a few words to say about everyone. Sadly I have no brilliant revelations to offer. ``` Biotop -- seems fine, always very hard to read Mahaloth -- seems fine, always very hard to read DemonTree -- Hasn't been participating at all. This could be a sign of a new player being assigned scum and freezing up. Hope to see more participation soon. Pardel-Lux -- is throwing wild accusations around in a way that seems unlikely to be scum in his first game. Thing.Fish -- seems extremely Town LH75 -- seems fine. I'm not familiar with them but they seem to have played before. SunUp -- probably just overwhelmed rookie, possibly scum using rookie status as an excuse to not participate. Keep coming back, it gets better. glee -- hasn't really said much Bicycle_Bill -- hasn't said much, quick name claim probably townie sign Dizzymrslizzy -- hasn't said much, could be sus, but always hard to read AngeloftheNorth -- seems fine, always very hard to read @Prof.Pepperwinkle -- um, what can I say? How about "seems fine, always very hard to read?" Wow, this readslist sucks. @storyteller0910 -- don't think I've played with him before though I've enjoyed games he's modded. Seems, um, fine. ``` So I guess TLDR is a town lean on Pardel-Lux and milder town leans on Bike Bill and SunUp. At least until she shows up, I’ll vote for the lurker. **vote DemonTree** ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/209 "2025-07-16T15:13:07Z")
Yikes. Not Editing To Add: sorry about the formatting there. ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/210 "2025-07-16T15:14:00Z")
Is this better? quote=“Thing.Fish, post:208, topic:1020789”] ```auto Biotop -- seems fine, always very hard to read Mahaloth -- seems fine, always very hard to read DemonTree -- Hasn't been participating at all. This could be a sign of a new player being assigned scum and freezing up. Hope to see more participation soon. Pardel-Lux -- is throwing wild accusations around in a way that seems unlikely to be scum in his first game. Thing.Fish -- seems extremely Town LH75 -- seems fine. I'm not familiar with them but they seem to have played before. SunUp -- probably just overwhelmed rookie, possibly scum using rookie status as an excuse to not participate. Keep coming back, it gets better. glee -- hasn't really said much Bicycle_Bill -- hasn't said much, quick name claim probably townie sign Dizzymrslizzy -- hasn't said much, could be sus, but always hard to read AngeloftheNorth -- seems fine, always very hard to read @Prof.Pepperwinkle -- um, what can I say? How about "seems fine, always very hard to read?" Wow, this readslist sucks. @storyteller0910 -- don't think I've played with him before though I've enjoyed games he's modded. Seems, um, fine. ``` [/quote] ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/211 "2025-07-16T15:14:13Z")
Pfui. ---
**Author:** ![LH75](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lh75/32/4438_2.png) [@LH75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LH75)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/212 "2025-07-16T15:17:39Z")
Vote Pardel-Lux ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/213 "2025-07-16T15:19:02Z")
Hey, that’s my line! I wasn’t around yesterday 'cause I was sitting with Madame P. in her room, and the wireless there isn’t very good. **vote Dizzymrslizzy** 'cause she’s an experienced player, but still hasn’t contributed much at all toDay. **unvote Archangel** 'cause my vote really was mostly just paranoia. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/214 "2025-07-16T15:25:03Z")
Mahaloth 1 (Prof.Pepperwinkle 2-9, AngeloftheNorth 146) Biotop 0 (AngeloftheNorth 146-171) DemonTree 2 (AngeloftheNorth 146, Thing.Fish 208) LH75 2 (AngeloftheNorth 146, Pardel-Lux 164) Bicycle\_Bill 0 (AngeloftheNorth 146-173) DizzyMrsLizzy 2 (AngeloftheNorth 146, Prof.Pepperwinkle 213) AngeloftheNorth 1 (Prof.Pepperwinkle 149-213, Pardel-Lux 164) Pardel-Lux 1 (LH75 212) Just over 24 hours to go. ---
**Author:** ![Dizzymrslizzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Dizzymrslizzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dizzymrslizzy)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/215 "2025-07-16T15:44:50Z")
> [@glee](#): > > ough I haven’t played Mafia here for around 10 years, I have watched the UK TV program [The Traitors - BBC iPlayer](https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/p0db9b2t/the-traitors), which is a live version. > > From there I saw one Villain sneakily lynch another Villain 😃, which leads me to expect at least 2 Villains in this game (but certainly not 5+ and probably no We have a US Version of the Traitors also. I just watched the season with Boston Rob and it was fantastic. If you are able to watch that season you can watch what “true Scum Tells” really are like. Boston Rob was the perfect True Scum. He bussed his partner to try and get “Town” Credit. It was awesome to watch and I gave him lots of kudos, although he made mistakes also. Based on the numbers, I’d guess 3 Scum is a safe bet for now. We’ll see as we move along in the game if that’s acurate or not. ---
**Author:** ![Dizzymrslizzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Dizzymrslizzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dizzymrslizzy)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/216 "2025-07-16T15:47:48Z")
I’m still getting used to this format here. I’m honestly, getting lost in the message board, and am going to have a hard time keeping up with my lack of processing skills (I have some learning disabilities that take me longer to process written and spoken words. I often have to read threads 3 or 4 times to get a grasp on what’s going on). And miss my tapatalk app for viewing the board on the go. So yeah, I will be a little slower this game, because I have to drag out my laptop to play efficiently. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/217 "2025-07-16T15:48:57Z")
And that’s a reason. **unvote Dizzymrslizzy** ---
**Author:** ![Dizzymrslizzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Dizzymrslizzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dizzymrslizzy)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/218 "2025-07-16T15:50:00Z")
I also don’t know what a WK is? I am not getting a scummy read from AotN right now (although I never have a good feeling about her 😛 ). And I don’t really see LH75 teaming up with her. This seems like a bit too much of a push. And help a newb out…How do I vote here! LOL ---
**Author:** ![Dizzymrslizzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Dizzymrslizzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dizzymrslizzy)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/219 "2025-07-16T15:50:33Z")
> [@Dizzymrslizzy](#): > > me longer to process written and spoken words. I often have to read threads 3 or 4 times to get a grasp on what’s going on). And miss my tapatalk app for viewing the board on the go. > > So yeah, I will be a little slower this game, because I have to drag out my laptop to play efficiently. Yeah, I’m trying ole friend!!! I’m trying! ---
**Author:** ![Dizzymrslizzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Dizzymrslizzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dizzymrslizzy)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/220 "2025-07-16T15:52:01Z")
Give it a try! It’s on Peacock. Watch Season 3. I’d love to go on that show! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789.md?page=12)