# Shakespeare Mafia-- Act I **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [July 12, 2025, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789 "2025-07-12T15:19:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/241 "2025-07-16T20:48:29Z")
Would Prof.Pepperwinkle not have 3 instead of 2 votes? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/242 "2025-07-16T20:55:11Z")
Sorry, fixed. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/243 "2025-07-16T20:57:06Z")
Nice to see the No-ETA rule because it is frowned upon does not apply to everyone šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/244 "2025-07-16T20:57:43Z")
**Vote Demontree** **Vote LH75** I think AngeloftheNorth makes sense and I therefore support them. ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/245 "2025-07-16T20:58:26Z")
Am I correct that I still win if my team wins, even if I donā€™t survive? So I shouldnā€™t vote just to save myself, but should try and maximalise the chance of killing scum rather another townie? Not that that really helps at this stage, since I donā€™t have much of a read on anyone yet. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/246 "2025-07-16T21:02:27Z")
You are correct. You win when your team wins. ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/247 "2025-07-16T21:36:53Z")
I guess Iā€™d better get my thoughts out now, in case I donā€™t have chance later. @AngeloftheNorth voted for me and @LH75 (as well as a bunch of other players sheā€™s since unvoted), but @LH75 still thought AotN was town. If LH75 is scum and AotN isnā€™t, that wouldnā€™t make much sense. But it might make sense as misdirection if both are scum, or they might both be town and AotN is just wrong about LH75 as well as me. Or AotN is scum and picking on townies (by voting a list that includes a few scum, then unvoting them later). I donā€™t know. @Thing.Fish picked on me for lurking, so maybe heā€™s trying to protect one of the other newbies who had posted even less? Or it was just an excuse, but I think people should be suspicious of him if Iā€™m lynched. @Prof.Pepperwinkle has the most votes, so I just had another look at his posts. Heā€™s cryptic, not to say strange, but maybe thatā€™s normal for him. Why are people suspicious of him, exactly? Does anyone know whether roles get revealed when a player is killed, or do we only find out whether they are mafia or not? ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/248 "2025-07-16T21:45:28Z")
Actually, Iā€™m tied for the lead with you, DemonTree, and with LH75. 3 each after gleeā€™s vote. Cryptic? Strange? Thank you very much! ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/249 "2025-07-16T21:48:17Z")
People are suspicious of me because I voted for SunUp without declaring a reason. Early on in games I do it as a matter of course to see what it will stir up. This usually stirs up votes on me, but they donā€™t tend to last to the end. I wonā€™t be around much tomorrow, because Iā€™ll be bedsitting Madame P., but I may be able to comment. I will be placing serious votes later, based on whoā€™s lurking mostly. ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/250 "2025-07-16T22:53:55Z")
> [@DemonTree](#): > > I havenā€™t been posting much because I donā€™t really know anyone or what to look for, and Iā€™ve been busy in other threads. > > However, checking the list of posters, I was at least 3rd from last when @Thing.Fish posted, which makes me wonder why heā€™s singling me out as lurking. > > **vote Thing.Fish** I was surprised to discover this, but itā€™s true! I had forgotten some posts from earlier in the game, and somehow I had thought that LH75 and Bicycle had posted more than they had. Anyway, this seems like a pretty townie response. **unvote DemonTree** ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/251 "2025-07-16T22:54:48Z")
Profā€™s explanation also seems acceptable. **unvote Prof Pepperwinkle** ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/252 "2025-07-16T22:57:38Z")
> [@DemonTree](#): > > Am I correct that I still win if my team wins, even if I donā€™t survive? So I shouldnā€™t vote just to save myself, but should try and maximalise the chance of killing scum rather another townie? Not that that really helps at this stage, since I donā€™t have much of a read on anyone yet. This is a somewhat controversial topic. General consensus is that you should always vote to protect yourself, even if it means voting for someone you think is town, since you _know_ that youā€™re town and there is a chance youā€™re wrong about the other person. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/253 "2025-07-16T23:32:00Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > People are suspicious of me because I voted for SunUp without declaring a reason. Early on in games I do it as a matter of course to see what it will stir up. This usually stirs up votes on me, but they donā€™t tend to last to the end. Thatā€™s a really anti-town thing to do. **Vote Prof. Pepperwinkle** ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2025, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/254 "2025-07-16T23:51:19Z")
Ach, Iā€™ve been played. In my defense, being a walking encyclopedia of biographical information is _very different_ from trying to read motivations from text threads. Anyway, I will **unvote Prof.Pepperwinkle** and, since Iā€™m unsure of how Prof.Pepperwinkleā€™s tactics can be construed as ā€œanti-townā€, Iā€™m going to **vote Mahaloth** because, at the very least, I would like to hear the reasoning behind that conclusion. ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2025, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/255 "2025-07-17T00:08:42Z")
> [@Thing.Fish](#): > > I was surprised to discover this, but itā€™s true! I had forgotten some posts from earlier in the game, and somehow I had thought that LH75 and Bicycle had posted more than they had. Anyway, this seems like a pretty townie response. > > **unvote DemonTree** Hmm. Iā€™m still kind of suspicious, but I guess not enough not to **Unvote Thing.Fish** But now Iā€™m back to not knowing who to vote for. ā˜¹ > [@Thing.Fish](#): > > This is a somewhat controversial topic. General consensus is that you should always vote to protect yourself, even if it means voting for someone you think is town, since you _know_ that youā€™re town and there is a chance youā€™re wrong about the other person. Yeah, I did think of that. But voting for someone can encourage others to follow suit, so it might be better to vote for who you suspect and hope others copy that. Weā€™re running out of time now, though. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2025, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/256 "2025-07-17T01:20:27Z")
> [@SunUp](#): > > because, at the very least, I would like to hear the reasoning behind that conclusion. Stirring up stuff just to stir stuff up isnā€™t pro-town. Iā€™m not sure how to explain that further. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2025, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/257 "2025-07-17T01:35:35Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Stirring up stuff just to stir stuff up isnā€™t pro-town. Iā€™m not sure how to explain that further. Yeah, but I usually only do it on D1 to give everybody something to discuss besides mechanics. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2025, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/258 "2025-07-17T01:38:13Z")
Now for the serious vote. This is the player who seems to me to be not as active as the others. If I had any other reason to decide on someone, Iā€™d use it. **vote Bicycle\_Bill** ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2025, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/259 "2025-07-17T01:56:09Z")
Ugh, I dunno. I disagree with Prof Pā€™s tactic - especially this late in a Day, a cryptic vote like that means weā€™ve now moved several hours closer to the deadline without learning anything particularly valuable - but I, it must be said, am often wrong. @Prof.Pepperwinkle, why did you choose Sun Up, a new and fairly active player, as your target for this tactic? ---
**Author:** ![AngeloftheNorth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelofthenorth/32/19559_2.png) [@AngeloftheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngeloftheNorth)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2025, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/260 "2025-07-17T02:44:00Z")
**Unvote all** Driving in the rain in CDMX (passenger), I will put votes down when I get back to our apartment, probably wonā€™t make it in time for end of day tomorrow. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789.md?page=14)