# Shakespeare Mafia-- Act I

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**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [July 12, 2025, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789 "2025-07-12T15:19:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![AngeloftheNorth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelofthenorth/32/19559_2.png) [@AngeloftheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngeloftheNorth)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/321 "2025-07-18T20:37:15Z")

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And, because there’s no reason to hide it now, my role name is Hamlet.

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**Author:** ![Dizzymrslizzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Dizzymrslizzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dizzymrslizzy)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/322 "2025-07-18T20:45:59Z")

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> [@SunUp](#):
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> erhaps Pardel-Lux is HAMLET, who can’t make up his mind about how to act?
> 
> I mean, BANQUO’s power was so very specific to the character that I’d imagine that other major characters have powers that relate to their own Shakespeare characters as well.

I was very clear on where I stood before end of day, although by the time I got back online after the whole switch to LH, Day was pretty much over.

> [@LH75](#):
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> “My hour is almost come, when I to sulphurous and tormenting flames must tender up myself” (Hamlet Act 1 Scene 5)
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> I took this post as LH Claiming to be a Ghost right here…No one else commented or picked up on it, I was too late to comment on it.
> 
> And I specifically called Mahaloth out on his Prof vote, but I always think Mahaloth is scummy, and I try to give him more leway on Day 1 because I never like his D1 moves. They;ve always proven to be Town though.  
> thanks for the game, it was fun

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/323 "2025-07-18T21:03:30Z")

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Well, this promises to be a wild D2!

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**Author:** ![AngeloftheNorth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelofthenorth/32/19559_2.png) [@AngeloftheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngeloftheNorth)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/324 "2025-07-18T21:04:49Z")

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Yup! Do you know when night ends?

@Pardel-Lux , what gives you the idea that we can only use powers tonight? Or did I misunderstand you and you were saying that because you feel you will be killed?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/325 "2025-07-18T21:09:57Z")

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From the Sign-Up thread:

> The Day cycle will run from Saturday at 11:30 AM until Thursday at 11:30 AM, and Night will be from Thursday 11:30 AM to Saturday 11:30 AM. All times are EDT (GMT -4).

Uh, Angel, do you know if you are Prince Hamlet or King Hamlet. King Hamlet also is a Ghost character…

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**Author:** ![Dizzymrslizzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Dizzymrslizzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dizzymrslizzy)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/326 "2025-07-18T21:10:08Z")

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> [@AngeloftheNorth](#):
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> up! Do you know when night ends?
> 
> @Pardel-Lux , what gives you the idea

I just went back and read the rules. Night is Thursday 11:30-Saturday 11:30

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**Author:** ![Dizzymrslizzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Dizzymrslizzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dizzymrslizzy)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/327 "2025-07-18T21:11:37Z")

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NETA - These were my comments, not part of the quote

I took this post as LH Claiming to be a Ghost right here…No one else commented or picked up on it, I was too late to comment on it.

And I specifically called Mahaloth out on his Prof vote, but I always think Mahaloth is scummy, and I try to give him more leway on Day 1 because I never like his D1 moves. They;ve always proven to be Town though.  
thanks for the game, it was fun

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**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/328 "2025-07-18T21:12:24Z")

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Exciting developments!

> [@AngeloftheNorth](#):
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> I still don’t know what my power is but I have used it tonight.

How do you use your power if you don’t know what it is?

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**Author:** ![Dizzymrslizzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Dizzymrslizzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dizzymrslizzy)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/329 "2025-07-18T21:13:42Z")

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@Bicycle_Bill I said why I was voting for you in the post which I voted for you.

Name claim - Anti Town  
You haven’t posted much - Anti Town

There is no rule not to vote newbies. It’s not a thing. Yes you may give newbies a little grace, but when I only know 4 of 13 players, you are all newbies too me. Gotta vote for someone. You committed 2 acts I found Anti-Town.

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/330 "2025-07-18T21:17:25Z")

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> [@AngeloftheNorth](#):
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> Pardel-Lux, what gives you the idea that we can only use powers tonight? Or did I misunderstand you and you were saying that because you feel you will be killed?

The latter. As I wrote: tonight _may_ be the last chance for me. Or for you, as you have openly claimed town and power. And thanks for clearing many things! I don’t consider you suspicious anymore.  
Although, of course, you could be double-WIFOM’ing us big time 😉

> [@Thing.Fish](#):
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> It would be quite unusual for a player to have a “mystery” power whose effects are unknown to him

Whereby I infer that you are **not** a major character.

> [@DemonTree](#):
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> How do you use your power if you don’t know what it is?

Nor are you. Assuming all major characters are in the dark about their powers, which must not necessarily be the case. But it seems probable at this stage.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/331 "2025-07-18T21:20:52Z")

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Julius Caesar also becomes a Ghost.

and from Henry IV

> **Glendower:**  
> I can call spirits from the vasty deep.  
> **Hotspur:**  
> Why, so can I, or so can any man;  
> But will they come when you do call for them?

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**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/332 "2025-07-18T21:21:18Z")

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I guess I may as well say now: I’m a minor character. Should I give the name?

I was also going to suggest brainstorming to work out what the powers are, but only if it would help town more than scum.

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**Author:** ![AngeloftheNorth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelofthenorth/32/19559_2.png) [@AngeloftheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngeloftheNorth)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/333 "2025-07-18T21:21:41Z")

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@Prof.Pepperwinkle & @Dizzymrslizzy , thank you! I will try to post reads by the end of the night.

@Prof.Pepperwinkle , my PM just says I am Hamlet, a major character.

@DemonTree, we are allowed to use the power every night even though we don’t know what it is. I have made a guess at what it is (I’m not going to share) and targeted a player that will be appropriate to target if I’m correct at what it is. If I’m wrong I apologize in advance.

@Pardel-Lux , it’s a relief to be out to you because I think you have good instincts and now we can work together.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/334 "2025-07-18T21:22:50Z")

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The only advantage we have over the Villains is that they don’t know who our power players are, or what they do. Let us please not give them any more info than they already have.

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/335 "2025-07-18T21:26:12Z")

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> [@DemonTree](#):
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> I was also going to suggest brainstorming to work out what the powers are

I, like AngeloftheNight, also have made a guess at what it is, and I am not ging to share either. Brainstorming does not seem useful from my vantage point.

> [@DemonTree](#):
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> Should I give the name?

I’d say no. You have no powers as a minor character (assuming you are), so what’s the point?  
"What’s in a name? That which we call DemonTree  
By any other name would smell as sweet.”

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/336 "2025-07-18T21:28:30Z")

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> [@Thing.Fish](#):
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> It would be quite unusual for a player to have a “mystery” power whose effects are unknown to him, but then again the “ghost” mechanism, which we know exists, is also fairly unusual.

Yes, I’ve not seen that before.

> [@Thing.Fish](#):
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> One thing we typically do at this point, which will become increasingly enlightening as the game proceeds, is carefully examine the final votecount and the history of how it got there.

A helpful point. 😀

> [@Pardel-Lux](#):
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> I remember nothing about him becoming a ghost and acting after his death.

Banquo’s ghost returns in a later scene…  
[Banquo - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banquo)

> [@AngeloftheNorth](#):
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> I am also a town power and I also don’t know what my role is.

> [@AngeloftheNorth](#):
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> my role name is Hamlet

I’m only guessing, but in the play Hamlet can learn from a ghost, vows to avenge and kills Polonius.  
So Angel could be a communicator / detective / or vigilante!

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**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/337 "2025-07-18T21:29:05Z")

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Okay. We could all PM our names and presumed powers to @LH75 , though, since he is definitely town (he is definitely town, right?). And he could then tell the rest of us if there is anything suspicious there.

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/338 "2025-07-18T21:29:46Z")

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PM among players are not allowed, are they? That would be cheating.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/339 "2025-07-18T21:30:13Z")

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> [@DemonTree](#):
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> Okay. We could all PM our names and presumed powers to @LH75 , though, since he is definitely town

No. Communication about the game outside of the game thread (or the villain chat) is prohibited.

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**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shakespeare-mafia-act-i/1020789/340 "2025-07-18T21:30:56Z")

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Oh, okay. I didn’t know that.

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